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Yet Another Ex-Manager Watch: Cristian Stellini

LukaKranjcar

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Farcical that Stellini was kept on if the players are in support of Ryan Mason.

Another tragic decision in a long line of utterly tragic decisions.
 

jpascavitz

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Got more and more angry overnight with all the takes of when will Stellini go esque tweets and posts.

The only reason the guy was asked to stick around was because it seemed the squad had a connection with him and he did well when Conte was out, hell almost better than Conte this season, because the players seemed to like him.

Every single one of us knew he was out of his depth. It makes it so much more embarrassing to support this club currently to see the players are able to again, not give one ounce of care, and throw another "good guy" under the bus because they couldn't give a shit.

The players can't play for their own personal pride or own ambition to try and get UCL? It has to come from magic or miracles from a manager? It's disgraceful. On the flip side of the coin, Stellini is just a human shield of the laundry list of items that should be answered by Levy and board.

Can't wait to see "Mason Ball 🔥⏳" posted all over twitter because for some odd reason the players and board will appease most of just getting poor old Stellini out..
 

n5yiddo

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Farce after farce with this club.

Tottenham are definitely an experiment to see how much pain and humiliation a fan can withstand before they break......
yepp, horrible time, I've become apathetic because I simply can't deal with my fury. Levy is toxic, it's never his fault and he seems to think he's the man to clean up the bullshit that he's created.
 

adamsky

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That'll be that then I imagine. Players had clearly downed tools. I know we haven't played 433 for a while but you don't stop doing the basics that they did. Defence was basically begging joelinton through to score for that first goal.

Now players leaking to the press they want Mason and I can't see anything else.

Mason having players support is probably biggest reason not to give it to him. Players are biggest problem at club
 

A Bit Much

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Mason having players support is probably biggest reason not to give it to him. Players are biggest problem at club

Indeed, it doesn't need to be a really complex decision at this stage - we need energy and optimism back in the legs of our team, as they're currently dead men walking in games.
 

Beefyboy

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Mason having players support is probably biggest reason not to give it to him. Players are biggest problem at club
Hmm I think that's the easy take, but they are clearly massively demotivated. Just like us they'll be looking at thing going "we are a laughing stock" it can't be a good feeling. Think how crap we feel and we can just turn of Sky Sports news and get on with our day...this is their lives and careers.

Throw in the fact that this group have had a manager publicly saying how poor they are all season and I can't believe people are suprised they feel so low.

I know they're highly paid but like any job if the organisations a mess and your leader has been saying you aren't good enough then its bound to hit your performance. We've all worked at place likes this in our lives and iys miserable. A lot of them are still kids as well.

If Mason at the very least gives them a bit of confidence thrn thay genuinely could be the difference between us winning 3 games the rest of the season vs 0 under stellini.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Hmm I think that's the easy take, but they are clearly massively demotivated.
Lets say you are correct.

If sacking Stellini and installing Mason is all it takes to motivate them - then they are too weak-minded to keep at a PL club that has ambitions of winning anything.

These are professional athletes, who should be able to have enough pride to turn up and put in even a modicum of effort. If they can't do that on their own - I don't want them at the club.
 

joey55

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I think people are getting carried away with Stellini criticism in terms of tactics etc. The move to 442 seems bad, given the personel we have. But if you lose at home to Bournemouth, shouldn't you expect to get absolutely spanked away at Newcastle? We didn't exacly "deserve" to beat Brighton either. Isn't the main difference, that after the Bournemouth defeat , the players were now not only playing for a coach that would have no long term influence, but also had very little realistic hope of making the top 4. The motivation to perform just can't be there to the levels it normally would be. I know they are professionals and should always give everything, but psychology just doesn't work like that.

Ultimately, the good players know that they are in a side where some of their team mates simply aren't good enough, so no matter how hard they try, they just don't believe we are good enough to go on a run before the end of the season. Post Bournemouth, if you are Kane, would you look around the dressing room, I think the rest of the team are capable of not making a number of stupid mistakes that will throw games away? Lloris is clealry finished at this level. Dier have been making errors for years. Our best CM is out. We don't have any proper fit FB's, so even in our 353 formation, we were bound to make errors. This is all topped off by knowing you are playing for a coach that isn't going to be around next season.

Basically, I feel Stellini and his tactics are an irrelevance. There is a cloud over the club, caused by not having a permanent manager, several injuries and the fact it's obvious that many of our players just aren't good enough. All these things combine to bring everyone down and make it so hard to perform. In theory, yesterday was seen as potentially a CL deciding game, but I bet there is no way the players really believed it. We were only in the CL race because Liverpool and Chelsea are so poor this season. Their crapness sort of hid how bad we are. We scraped 4th last season and then didn't make a single impactful signing and at the same time, some of our senior players were on the decline. There is only ever one direction when that happens and thanks to the same thing happening at other clubs, for most of the season, we couldn't see it.
 

Cavehillspur

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Mason having players support is probably biggest reason not to give it to him. Players are biggest problem at club
Yep our players seem to have waaaaaay too much player power, theyre clearly too comfortable in their surroundings and the amazon doc showed they have Levys ear. Any manager is doomed to fail at this club under this regime.
 

Yiddo100

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Farcical that Stellini was kept on if the players are in support of Ryan Mason.

Another tragic decision in a long line of utterly tragic decisions.
I’m pretty sure the same was said about stellini being popular when conte was sacked though
 

easley91

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One for @easley91

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Tucker

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Mason having players support is probably biggest reason not to give it to him. Players are biggest problem at club
I disagree. That’s exactly the reason to give it to him. Our problems aren’t going to be fixed in the remaining games we have left or by an interim manager.

You just need someone to come in and put an arm around their shoulders and try and get some confidence back.

The more significant deep seated issues can be dealt with by the permanent manager in the summer.
 

Ravenyonaz

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Farcical that Stellini was kept on if the players are in support of Ryan Mason.

Another tragic decision in a long line of utterly tragic decisions.
It was paratici's reccomandation and not that bad a decision at the time, to make. If we let him go now, then I fear Mason is not the answer, for the same reasons. He's been around the first team for 18 months and might be "smitten" by Conte-ball, in the same way Stellini is. I expected the players to react positively when Conte left, but they didn't. Why should they if Mason is kept on as a caretaker? I would think it would be better to get someone temporarily in from outside the club, as for instance Hoddle, C. Allen, Sherwood, Hughton or even Redknapp! It is a mess, but we just have to minimise the damage until we get a permanent manager!
 
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