Tyson Fury deserves to win Sports Personality OTY

[WalkerboyUK]

Here's the thing.... it's Sports PERSONALITY of the Year, not Sports PERSON of the Year.
Much as he might appear to be a bit of a cock, Fury has more personality than the rest of the nominees combined.
Unfortunately the BBC seem to have forgotten the Personality element of the title.

As for his opinions and beliefs - he's entitled to them, just like we are all entitled to our opinions and beliefs.
It's not like he has stood there and threatened to kill someone if they don't agree with him.
The media like to knock people off their stools when they achieve something.
That lot at the DM are a bunch of ***** anyway.

 

[AW?]

Interesting discussion on 5 live this morning about how bigotry against travellers is fine and the BBC have used the word Pikey yet weren't picked up on it as it's socially acceptable to have prejudice against travellers.

Double standards?

 

[nightgoat]

Here's the thing.... it's Sports PERSONALITY of the Year, not Sports PERSON of the Year.
Much as he might appear to be a bit of a cock, Fury has more personality than the rest of the nominees combined.
Unfortunately the BBC seem to have forgotten the Personality element of the title.

It's not, though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/24145324

Voted for by the public live during the TV show, this prestigious award will be given to the sportsman or woman whose actions have most captured the public's imagination in 2014.

 

[Shea]

You don't believe him do you? From what I understand his uncle has said that he's happy to apologise for comparing homosexuals to pedos. But Tyson's done it again on twitter.
https://twitter.com/tyson_fury
If he is retracting his comments then I think even less of him because he is covering up what he believes. There is no place for homosexuality in Christianity, this is a fact. he's saying publicly what I have heard Christians say privately, I can't think of any religion where homosexuality is accepted. It's a lot better that these thoughts are out in the open for people to see and debate it, than trying to suppress it or water it down or pretend that it's not they believe.

No I certainly don't fall for his statement's sincerity by any means - that's why I likened his official statement to a guy who defends his racial slurs with "I'm not racist I work with loads of coloured guys"

I suppose a more apt comparison would be Big Ron's defense of his Desailly comments being that he gave several black players their chance in football while manager of WBA

What I mean to say is - I think much of what Fury says and does is part of his copying Ali/Hamed/WWE persona style of controversial self promotion and I take very little of it seriously

I do however of course believe that he holds these types of religious book of revelation style beliefs - which I personally consider foolish but if he wants to think them it's his business. What I take exception to really is his voicing of such bigotry in public (especially from his position as a high profile sportsman - now heavyweight champ of the world)

I'm happy enough for him to have simply acknowledged the foolishness of his statements being public and officially retracted them because frankly I think he should simply keep such beliefs to himself

I'm not expecting him to change his beliefs I just think he should keep them to himself and as long as he does I think the issue should be put to bed

 

[Mullers]

It's not all of it, but it is a significant part. It's only Froome who gets this level of scrutiny. When Nibali won in 2014 there was no constant, every day questions about doping. But there was in 2013 when Froome won before. Like there was in 2012 when Wiggins won. But there wasn't in 2011 when Cadel Evans won. I think you can see the pattern. There was no barrage of media questions at Astana's highly suspicious performances in the Giro d'Italia this year when they rode on the front for large parts of just about every stage but still had four or five riders left towards the end when every other contender had one or no teammates left. And that's from a team who had their racing license suspended at the start of the season for having three riders test positive within the space of a few weeks. This is the team managed by Alexander Vinokourov, a convicted doper, who have had doping scandals every year since 2007. Previous employees include Lance Armstrong, Alberto Contador and a whole host of other former Discovery Channel riders.

Whenever Quintana, or Nibali, or Aru wins a stage or a race they get praised for their talent. Whenever Contador wins it's 'the old Contador is back' (the two time convicted doper). Whenever Froome wins, there are questions, and allegations. And yet he has done more than any of those to combat doping. Froome was the only current cyclist who took part in the Cycling Independent Reform Commission's investigation. It was Froome who called for WADA to carry out more dope tests during teams' training camps.

The medication Froome takes is for asthma, and the steroid in question, Salbutamol has been clinically tested and proven to have no significant effect on endurance performance, even in high doses. So it's not like he's winning the Tour de France because he's conveniently asthmatic.

Going back to the French, they haven't had a Tour winner since Hinault in '85. For them, a French Tour winner would be like Andy Murray winning Wimbledon x100. Yet they've seen a new team from a nation with precious little cycling history come along and win it three times in four years. Remember how they kicked up a fuss about GB winning everything on the track in 2012, to the point Dave Brailsford told them their performance was down to having rounder wheels than everyone else (made by a French manufacturer, no less.)

And you're right, thanks to Armstrong there will be a level of suspicion for a long time. But when that suspicion is only applied to certain teams and certain riders you can only conclude that there is an agenda.

All those guys you mentioned have some suspicion tied to them and none of them are French, you're suggesting he's only being targeted because he's British? There are non French media who are questioning his performance too.

Why is salbutamol banned if it's not performing enchancing? Diego Ulissi was banned for 9 months for his use of salbutamol. A study done last year shows that it does increase athletic performace.
http://suppversity.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/albuterol-salbutamol-doping-works.html

If you look at Usain Bolt he has some fingers pointed due to his performances and several Jamaicians who have been caught cheating.
However unlike Farah and Froome no one can make a case against him, he's done nothing to faciltate an accusation, he's never missed a drug test. If he ever does that will be a permanent stain on his record.

Even though Farah and Froome have never been found guilty of cheating it's very much in their best interests, to go beyond and above the call of duty to prove their innocence.

 

[Mullers]

No I certainly don't fall for his statement's sincerity by any means - that's why I likened his official statement to a guy who defends his racial slurs with "I'm not racist I work with loads of coloured guys"

I suppose a more apt comparison would be Big Ron's defense of his Desailly comments being that he gave several black players their chance in football while manager of WBA

What I mean to say is - I think much of what Fury says and does is part of his copying Ali/Hamed/WWE persona style of controversial self promotion and I take very little of it seriously

I do however of course believe that he holds these types of religious book of revelation style beliefs - which I personally consider foolish but if he wants to think them it's his business. What I take exception to really is his voicing of such bigotry in public (especially from his position as a high profile sportsman - now heavyweight champ of the world)

I'm happy enough for him to have simply acknowledged the foolishness of his statements being public and officially retracted them because frankly I think he should simply keep such beliefs to himself

I'm not expecting him to change his beliefs I just think he should keep them to himself and as long as he does I think the issue should be put to bed

I agree that he's doing self promotion but I think he should publically voice this opinions because then everyone can see who he is and where he stands. Otherwise you get a kind of Jon Jones fakeness, who has in an interview admitted to acting fake.

At least now it's out in the open people can refute and give him stick for his comments. What he said about Jessica Ennis was nothing though in fact I agree with him, she does look fit in a dress.

What he said about women being best on their back and in the kitchen is not something I take seriously, he's just trying to wind people up.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's not, though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/24145324

Joe Roooooottttt

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Blokes a twat.

Haye would beat him. Possibly the worst heavyweight champ ever. Certainly the worst fight to win the belt as well.

I think possibly worst heavyweight champion ever is a bit steep, considering you have had the likes of Shannon Briggs. Liakhovich, Valuev and Stiverne who on boxing ability Fury is way ahead of and thats probably just in the last 10 years and theres probably more to add to that list.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

It's not, though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/24145324

Well. His actions have certainly 'captured the imagination' - on that basis it settles it he ought to win

 

[talkshowhost86]

The bloke is clearly a misogyistic and homophobic prick.

Will be interesting to see how well he does at SPOTY considering it's done on the public vote. I'd hope that the people of Britain would look at the fact that he's a genuinely nasty piece of work and therefore not vote for him.

My concern is that they will think that none of that matters as long as he's good(ish) at hitting people in the face.

If he comes last I hope they announce that at the ceremony.

 

[teok]

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Blokes a twat.

Haye would beat him. Possibly the worst heavyweight champ ever. Certainly the worst fight to win the belt as well.

Haye would beat Fury, you sure?

Haye is a great Cruiserweight, but Fury is a very good fighter, he's big, quick for his size and ain't bad technically. Just because he can be a joke outside the ring he is certainly no joke in the ring. Outside a lucky knockout i don't see Haye having much of a chance if the two meet.

 

[Wilsonbox]

Haye would beat Fury, you sure?

Haye is a great Cruiserweight, but Fury is a very good fighter, he's big, quick for his size and ain't bad technically. Just because he can be a joke outside the ring he is certainly no joke in the ring. Outside a lucky knockout i don't see Haye having much of a chance if the two meet.

I am no Haye fan at all but he hits a lot harder then Fury and we all saw what Steve Cunnigham done when he landed on Fury's chin.Fury had a great gameplan against Klitschko but that's not kid ourselfs here this is still the same guy who should of lost first time out to John McDermott.People dismissing Haye because of his size could be in for a shock if Haye's shoulder holds out and is fully repaired he sparks fury without a doubt.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Joe Roooooottttt

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I am no Haye fan at all but he hits a lot harder then Fury and we all saw what Steve Cunnigham done when he landed on Fury's chin.Fury had a great gameplan against Klitschko but that's not kid ourselfs here this is still the same guy who should of lost first time out to John McDermott.People dismissing Haye because of his size could be in for a shock if Haye's shoulder holds out and is fully repaired he sparks fury without a doubt.

Fury was very young then and it has to be said out of shape, I get Haye has power but as in his Klitschko fight it's about being able to use it. Fury is a very awkward fighter and I doubt Haye would be able to win on points he would have to go for the knockout against Fury.

 

[Japhet]

Here's the thing.... it's Sports PERSONALITY of the Year, not Sports PERSON of the Year.
Much as he might appear to be a bit of a cock, Fury has more personality than the rest of the nominees combined.
Unfortunately the BBC seem to have forgotten the Personality element of the title.

As for his opinions and beliefs - he's entitled to them, just like we are all entitled to our opinions and beliefs.
It's not like he has stood there and threatened to kill someone if they don't agree with him.
The media like to knock people off their stools when they achieve something.
That lot at the DM are a bunch of ***** anyway.

It's never had anything to do with personality. Nigel Mansell won it once if you want proof.

 

[Wilsonbox]

Fury was very young then and it has to be said out of shape, I get Haye has power but as in his Klitschko fight it's about being able to use it. Fury is a very awkward fighter and I doubt Haye would be able to win on points he would have to go for the knockout against Fury.

Agree about fury being in much better shape now then back in the day but until the klitschko fight his opponents were pretty poor.Haye was an embarrassment against klitschko he tried to do what he did to valuev but just couldn't.Never normally make Haye right about anything but he is right when he says Fury is a weak champion and every heavyweight will be lining up.Glad Klitchsko ain't champ anymore his fights used to send me asleep,

 

[UncleBuck]

Does anyone even

It's never had anything to do with personality. Nigel Mansell won it once if you want proof.

 

[Hoops]

I am no Haye fan at all but he hits a lot harder then Fury and we all saw what Steve Cunnigham done when he landed on Fury's chin.Fury had a great gameplan against Klitschko but that's not kid ourselfs here this is still the same guy who should of lost first time out to John McDermott.People dismissing Haye because of his size could be in for a shock if Haye's shoulder holds out and is fully repaired he sparks fury without a doubt.

Nevermind his shoulder, is his toe better? awwww pooor haye!

 

[Mustard]

Nevermind his shoulder, is his toe better? awwww pooor haye!