the UFC thread

[WalkerboyUK]

Mark Hunt has announced he is suing UFC, Dana White and Brock Lesnar...

Wasn't that a while ago?

He more recently said that if Overeem fails a drug test for their upcoming fight he will sue him personally

He said he would do it, but this morning he announced he is a man of his word, and that a lawsuit has officially been filed.

 

[mil1lion]

I think we're going to suffer from them stacking a lot of big PPV events recently, the big names have pretty much all fought or are about to fight

This UK card is just a free to air fight night event so most potential big fighters that could be available could well price themselves out anyway

Do they actually think Brad Pickett is a big enough draw to the casual fan?

Are they just banking on the fact that UFC as a brand is getting bigger and bigger over here and they can sell it out by virtue of British fans just wanting to attend as we have so few live UFC events here? (they're probably right)

They gotta at least put a headline fight on, don't they? For the posters and adverts if nothing else

The headline can't be the final chapter in one punch Pickett's career (the average causal fan probably doesn't even know who he is) and FOX sports is still going to expect certain viewing figures I'd have thought

Unless they just think they can show it on UK times so the US market would be low anyway and it isn't worth wasting any big ish names on

They've left the main event open on the website so it looks like there will be another fight to be announced. I'm not sure what the situation is with Bisping, I would have expected him to defend the belt in London.

The middleweight division seems to be the one that is a bit undecidided at the moment. Maybe Mousasi vs Silva and Bisping vs Yoel Romero.

 

[Shea]

They've left the main event open on the website so it looks like there will be another fight to be announced. I'm not sure what the situation is with Bisping, I would have expected him to defend the belt in London.

The middleweight division seems to be the one that is a bit undecidided at the moment. Maybe Mousasi vs Silva and Bisping vs Yoel Romero.

Can't see Bisping bein used for a non pay per view event at this time

 

[wpd659]

Can't see Bisping bein used for a non pay per view event at this time

I could see Bisping vs Yoel Romero then i think he will fight Woodley in May time.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

The only fighter I'm really keen to see kick on in 2017:

http://www.ufc.com/fighter/dooho-Choi

That fight with Cub Samson was the best I've ever seen in terms of one guy beating the living hell out of another and neither man giving an inch. This kid is going places mark my words.

 

[Shea]

I could see Bisping vs Yoel Romero then i think he will fight Woodley in May time.

I would be amazed if he fought on a non pay per view card while he still holds his belt

He will want to maximise his earning potential from being champ and that means getting points off a pay per view not fighting on a free to view event on uk time just for sentiment in terms of defending the title in uk

Any of the top contenders could well end his title reign and then his pay per view earning potential crashes and it's not worth risking on fox sports

 

[wpd659]

I would be amazed if he fought on a non pay per view card while he still holds his belt

Yer normally i would agree but with it being UK they need to have at least one big fight to bring in the casual fans and not the people that would go no matted what the card was.

 

[Shea]

Yer normally i would agree but with it being UK they need to have at least one big fight to bring in the casual fans and not the people that would go no matted what the card was.

It's not about them though

It's about what Bisping wants to earn for his fights as champion

He most likely has a limited opportunity to cash in on being the champ and that requires him to headline a pay per view

They will put a name or two on the main event of course - they can't leave it looking like a pure prelim event

But I highly doubt it will be Bisping and I also don't it will be anyone overly significant because they know their brand name sells well enough in the UK by itself to fill the o2

If for no other reason than uk fans rarely get the opportunity to see a ufc event live so will still buy tickets even before they see the fight card

 

[wpd659]

It's not about them though

It's about what Bisping wants to earn for his fights as champion

He most likely has a limited opportunity to cash in on being the champ and that requires him to headline a pay per view

Yes i agree with that he wants a big ppv fight, but i think the woodley fight would bring bigger ppv numbers. So that would be the the better fight to have at the next ppv. But he needs to defened his belt so i would think he can do that in march then in May fight woodley on a ppv.

 

[Shea]

Yes i agree with that he wants a big ppv fight, but i think the woodley fight would bring bigger ppv numbers. So that would be the the better fight to have at the next ppv. But he needs to defened his belt so i would think he can do that in march then in May fight woodley on a ppv.

I don't see why he would have any fights that aren't pay per view while he's the champ

Edit - the risk reward just doesn't make sense to me

I'm not claiming to be an expert so it's just my opinion and you feel free to ignore it

But since Bisping has become champion he's entitled to pay per view points. He'll have a figure that he wants to make out of every fight he has while he's the champ

Why would he risk his belt against a killer like a Yoel for pennies on the dollar? I don't see any reason other than if he were so obsessed with defending his title in uk for his bucket list that he'd happily risk it all for a fraction of what he could earn on a ppv

As for the Woodley match up - firstly there's no word that the ufc are even interested in it. Secondly Woodley has to get through Wonder boy and Bisping would then have to get by Yoel (which I personally doubt he would)

 

[Shea]

Khabib vs Ferguson official for 209

 

[Shea]

 

[TorontoYid]

What a joke. Mayweather will only fight him if it is boxing only rules so it will likely be an easy win for him. If McGregor was at least allowed to use kicks, never mind holds and locks, Mayweather might not win.

 

[Shea]

What a joke. Mayweather will only fight him if it is boxing only rules so it will likely be an easy win for him. If McGregor was at least allowed to use kicks, never mind holds and locks, Mayweather might not win.

I'm pretty sure dana's offer would be for a boxing match

It's just shit talking anyway

 

[TorontoYid]

I'm pretty sure dana's offer would be for a boxing match

It's just shit talking anyway

No doubt. Since Mayweather will only fight boxing rules, Dana will just try to use it as a money grab

 

[Shea]

Really sad to see BJ Penn's fight last night - I remember watching his fights against Din Thomas and Carlo Uno waaaay back at the start of his career on tapes my Thai Boxing club used to get shortly after a UFC event had been on.

He was very exciting and a great part of the UFC's history but he's older and the game as evolved around him also - he really shouldn't have even been stepping in the cage with someone like Rodriguez at this stage

I'm glad he wasn't seriously hurt but it was a tough watch

 

[Shea]

Weidman vs Mousasi confirmed for the Buffalo card

Great match up in my opinion

 

[Shea]

Tito goes out with an impressive first round win over Sonnen

Semtex's KO was spectacular

 

[Mullers]

Interesting, Dan Hardy is saying the fight with Tito and Sonnen was fixed.

 

[Shea]

Interesting, Dan Hardy is saying the fight with Tito and Sonnen was fixed.

Yea I saw this, he's far from the only one making these suggestions too

I have to question what the motive would be to fix the fight in the manner they did though?

Tito is retiring so would bring no obvious benefit to Bellator to boost his record (in fact quite the opposite as it deminishes the value of a recent investment in Sonnen and would for example potentially harm their possible future promo of him vs Wanderli)

Equally if you're going to fake a fight why do it so quickly and without any real entertainment for the fans?

I also doubt the event made enough money to warrant paying Sonnen significantly more than he'd be getting paid to fight anyway to make it worth his while having such a poor 1st round loss on his record

Unless there have been some kind of irregular betting activities that add up to this scenario i.e. many large bets placed on a Tito first round sub for example, I find it hard to see any reason to justify the claim

Tito's response
http://www.lowkickmma.com/UFC/tito-ortiz-responds-to-fight-fixing-accusations/

Big John's comments
http://www.lowkickmma.com/bellator/john-mccarthy-shuts-down-ortiz-vs-sonnen-fix-accusers/