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[mil1lion]

It sounds like we wont be seeing Nick Diaz again, well not anytime soon at least. He has been suspended for 5 years after testing positive for Mary Jane. Seems a bit over the top although they say it's because he has failed 2 previous tests. 3 strikes and you're out I guess.

 

[JohanTheYid]

5 years for marijuana
1 year for PED'S

Way to get your priorities right commission! !

 

[mil1lion]

Their reasoning is because he was a multiple offender. He failed 2 previous tests and also didn't turn up for one hearing back in 2009. They've certainly made an example of him but he has had enough chances to be fair. What's interesting is that the new rules the Nevada State Commission come into affect after the Diaz case was opened, the new rules would have meant a 3 year ban (because it was his 3rd time). It is a crazy punishment though, especially considering Marijuana is hardly making you a better fighter. Maybe a more relaxed one but nothing like the affect of PED's.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I've recently come back to UFC after recommendations from a mate - he knows i ducked out of watching it because i got fed up with stylised "fighting techniques" and diluted "methods", it all got very middle class. He also knows i used to root for the big chubby fuckers, like Tank Abbott & Oleg Taktarov, so suggested i check out Roy Nelson on't tube.

I did, and for so many reasons i like the guy - he clearly doesn't let his training get in the way of a solid feed, which i admire, and he's not a precious coaster who's only fought people he knows he can beat, he knows what it's like to be beaten, so he doesn't showboat, no dicking about (Tito Ortiz embodied a lot of what i came to dislike about UFC). Clearly very fit under that belly, whilst he might not last more than three busy rounds, if he connects at any point in them rounds you are really, really going to know about it. Consider me rooting for Team Big Country on Sunday

 

[mil1lion]

I've recently come back to UFC after recommendations from a mate - he knows i ducked out of watching it because i got fed up with stylised "fighting techniques" and diluted "methods", it all got very middle class. He also knows i used to root for the big chubby fuckers, like Tank Abbott & Oleg Taktarov, so suggested i check out Roy Nelson on't tube.

I did, and for so many reasons i like the guy - he clearly doesn't let his training get in the way of a solid feed, which i admire, and he's not a precious coaster who's only fought people he knows he can beat, he knows what it's like to be beaten, so he doesn't showboat, no dicking about (Tito Ortiz embodied a lot of what i came to dislike about UFC). Clearly very fit under that belly, whilst he might not last more than three busy rounds, if he connects at any point in them rounds you are really, really going to know about it. Consider me rooting for Team Big Country on Sunday

He has one of the best chins in the UFC. Took some brutal punishment from Junior Dos Santos and kept on going. Believe it or not he has actually lost some weight over the past 2 years. He has KO power particularly in his overhand right but his Ju-Jitsu is excellent as well. It's no surprise when he gets on top it's near impossible to get out, he uses his gut well on top to smother his opponent before looking for a submission. Dana White has been critical of his appearance ever since he fought in the Ultimate Fighter, so rather than make himself look more presentable he grew a massive mullett and beard.

His opponent Josh Barnett is old school, another big guy with great wrestling (actually did some pro wrestling in Japan so will feel at home this weekend) and solid in the stand up. It should be a good fight, most likely a short one. I'm a bit on the fence with heavyweights, I love the power and big knockouts but feel uncomfortable when I see them slow down drastically and run out of steam. There's a few heavyweights who keep the tempo though, Cain Valesquez is a cardio machine, solid on the feet as well and dominant with his wrestling and ground and pound.

If this fight goes beyond 2 rounds it will be hard to watch for me, they'll fight they're stuck in the mud.

 

[Mullers]

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/10/even-b...e-was-hula-hoop-racing-at-boys-and-girls-club

Look at White, you can see he can't wait to bring Jones back to the UFC, money grabbing ****.
Jones is such a lucky bastard, and now he's just playing the game, so he can get back to the UFC. I absolutely despise that bloke.

 

[Shea]

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/10/even-b...e-was-hula-hoop-racing-at-boys-and-girls-club

Look at White, you can see he can't wait to bring Jones back to the UFC, money grabbing ****.
Jones is such a lucky bastard, and now he's just playing the game, so he can get back to the UFC. I absolutely despise that bloke.

Yea and he will most likely win his title back with relative ease and make huge amounts of money for himself and the ufc because people's dislike of him will have intensified (but this will only have the mayweather effect of people paying in the hope of watching him lose)

Ultimately there will have been no where near as much ill effects or consequences for his actions as they merited

 

[mil1lion]

He's back!

http://uk.ufc.com/news/UFC-Formally...al&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=1445617233

Cormier vs Jones will be announced soon I'm sure

 

[JohanTheYid]

He's back!

http://uk.ufc.com/news/UFC-Formally...al&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=1445617233

Cormier vs Jones will be announced soon I'm sure

I hope he has to win a fight first, but you know that ain't happening

 

[mil1lion]

I hope he has to win a fight first, but you know that ain't happening

In truth it's the right fight. I would rather see Jones get the next shot over Bader. I think Bader needs to beat a top fighter first, maybe make him fight Rumble.

 

[fatpiranha]

I want to see Jones fight Rumble. It would be interesting while it lasted and i'd love to see Jones eat one of Rumble's bombs.

 

[Mullers]

I want to see Jones fight Rumble. It would be interesting while it lasted and i'd love to see Jones eat one of Rumble's bombs.

It would certainly be more of a punishment than what he got for the crime he committed.

 

[Mullers]

Here we go again.
I think DC has been really decent about the whole Jon Jones situation.
He could have easily kicked him when he was down but he never did. He's been pretty supportive of Jones and I don't think that's just to do with wanting him back in the octagon. He should behave in a mature manner like Bader has done since the press conference with DC.

Jon Bones Jones

✔@JonnyBones
Too pussy to fight at the garden but flies all the way to Albuquerque to prove he's a man #Scratchingmyhead you on your way pussy?
5:05 PM - 31 Oct 2015

http://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-to-daniel-cormier-you-on-your-way-pssy/

 

[cwy21]

Damn. Rousey got knocked out.

 

[Hoops]

Damn. Rousey got knocked out.

KTFO....totally outclassed.

 

[Mullers]

Damn. Rousey got knocked out.

 

[Mullers]

Jon Jones is really the person I want to see get the fuck knocked out.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I've not watched much Rousey before, just seen her as some figure-head in the making, but she always came across like a bit of a ****, and i couldn't tell if it was a gimmick or just her being her.

Just watched the fight, she acted like a twat and got knocked out like a twat. She looked half drunk by the time the punch took her to her knees and when she stood up she looked blank, too slow to block the kick.

On another note, Dana must've had a nine-hour boner after that fight, he's now got the glam blonde to splash all over the promotional material. I actually feel a bit sorry for him, he's probably still having to jerk off seven or eight times a day over Mcgregor, can't be easy.

 

[Shea]

I've not watched much Rousey before, just seen her as some figure-head in the making, but she always came across like a bit of a ****, and i couldn't tell if it was a gimmick or just her being her.

Just watched the fight, she acted like a twat and got knocked out like a twat. She looked half drunk by the time the punch took her to her knees and when she stood up she looked blank, too slow to block the kick.

On another note, Dana must've had a nine-hour boner after that fight, he's now got the glam blonde to splash all over the promotional material. I actually feel a bit sorry for him, he's probably still having to jerk off seven or eight times a day over Mcgregor, can't be easy.

I would have thought Dana's preference would have been for a Rousey victory

I doubt he's super happy about her loss - especially the manner of it. she was completely outclassed by a far better fighter. Holms' footwork, strike timing and general ring craft made Rousey look like a pub fighter

Yes the defeat sets up a big rematch which will surely generate more money in the short term. But like Brock Lesnar before Rousey and McGregor currently Dana/The UFC look to be putting a lot of time/money/effort in to building Rousey's brand and making her a poster child for the company (she's on the cover of the forth coming video game for example)

To me it seems like Rousey losing her perceived invincibility is a massive blow to the UFC and their marketing direction

Yes it will mean a rematch is huge and probably will attract more attention than any of Rousey's previous bouts (combined) but I doubt at 34 Holm will ever be as marketable for the UFC as Rousey was and now I doubt Rousey will ever be as marketable again either

In my opinion it's the biggest blow for Dana White since Cain destroyed Lesnar. Even Jone's will probably still be as marketable in a "say hello to the bad guy" kind of way as everyone will want to watch him lose.....but after the rematch itself the UFC will have lost a major cash cow now Rousey has lost much of her mystic

If Jose Aldo does something similar to McGregor next month I think the UFC will have pretty much lost all of their most marketable stars (GSP, Brock, Jones as a role model type. Rousey) in the last few years

 

[mil1lion]

Wreckless display from Rousey. You can't brawl with a technical striker and expect to get away with it. She was reckless in her last fight and got away with it against another brawler (rather than a technical striker in Holm). She should have learnt from that fight. Sometimes when you win a fight you fail to recognise the mistakes you make. Her coaches should have made it clear she needed to clinch and work the take-downs. I was shocked by her coach at the end of round 1 telling her she was doing well. She was getting out-boxed from the start and she was careless.

I think she is surrounded by people who tell her what she wants to hear and not what she needs to hear. She was undefeated but she still had a lot of improving to do in her stand up. She still walks down her opponents with her hands down and she is a long way from Holly Holms in the striking department. I was not shocked by this loss, only surprised by the approach. I thought she would grapple rather than test herself in the stand-up. This was just a badly coached loss.

All credit to Holly Holm who is still under appreciated (maybe she wont be anymore). I don't agree with Joe Rogan comparing the win to that of Matt Serra over GSP. She is an elite striker and she can knock out anyone in the womens division. The question was always whether she could grapple at the highest level. There was one brief grapple exchange but Ronda never had the right position to get the takedown. Holly was calm and used her positioning to get back to the feet. This was grappler versus striker but the grappler chose to brawl instead and it cost her.

I think the hype around Ronda Rousey was way over the top to be honest. I'm not saying that because she lost this fight because I have felt that way for a while now. The way they talk about her is like she's the greatest fighter ever. Womens MMA is still growing and she has simply been fighting women beneath her. This was just her first genuine challenger. She has a lot of pressure on her especially with all the celebrities getting behind her. Hell she even got on the cover of a boxing magazine (why not Holly Holm who won titles in boxing?). She has to compose herself now and learn from her mistakes and work on her striking.

There is no shame to losing in MMA. All the greats have at least 1 defeat to their name. Hell Weidman beat Silva by KO and didn't get the kind of attention that Rousey has for beating the likes of Meisha Tate. I think there's a bit of sexism towards Ronda because of the way she looks. On the other side you have a very humble composed new champion in Holly Holm who has incredible work ethic and discipline. Maybe if she was this super hot chick she would get all the attention. She's 10-0 now and if Ronda can't take her down in the rematch we could be looking at a new dominant champion in the Womens bantamweight division.