Wonder who has already been banned then?
I assume these are likely to be people who disputed with stewards or who were in the minority in an area as in most of the North and South Stands, there was no choice other than to stand whether you wanted to or not.Wonder who has already been banned then?
But your original point is flawed. There is no change to the law required to allow standing, because standing is not illegal. If it were law, an Act of Parliament would be required to change it. It isn't because there is no such law.
Current policy is that standing is not allowed - although this has different interpretations and is a significant grey area, particularly around 'moments of excitement' and 'persistent standing'.
You are right that the club can't market standing or non-standing areas - that's why it's important that fans use a little common sense, as Dougal so wisely suggested.
If you’re in an area where everyone is sitting and you stand then you are a dick. If everyone is standing then it should be kept that way.
Behind the goals should always be a standing area IMO.
Its alright saying that but my brother has a leg injury he struggled to get to his seat and then had to try to stand through the whole game - and there was a kid along the line and he couldn't see a thing - its not as straightforward as saying its what you expect because it s not the case anymore standing at football matches is a thing of the past
I would guess a majority of the crowd have never stood on the terraces at a top level match -
Park lane lower and parts of the shelf were always standing. Personally I believe that behind the goals and in particular, next to the away fans should always be standing. There are plenty of other parts of the ground that are all seating and always have been.
The club want to bang on about having a great atmosphere but that comes from the people standing. Putting the 1882 lot bang in the middle of the “wall of noise” was bizarre.
I get people have mobility issues and I know someone who kept away as he had a pretty nasty crash that’s left him on crutches. People such as my dad probably don’t want to stand all game and that’s why he’s got his ticket where he did.
It’s something that was always going to be an issue in the first few seasons of the stadium. People arrogantly laughed at West Ham in fighting but the same situation is unfolding here.
If my section becomes all seating then I’ll look to move ASAP and I’m sure those sitting in standing areas will do so aswell.
the big difference is you are used to standing, because you used to be in the Park Lane. a lot of people in the Paxton are used to sitting even behind the goal, because that's what they used to do in the old stadium.
I do disagree with the noise level being different though whether sitting or standing. if you have a group around you that want to create an atmosphere it's just a case of people being the cheer leaders.
Disabled people have suffered for years with their disabilities, and in a lot of cases suffer a lot of discrimination, in life and work. it's unfair to many that now can't enjoy a football match because they have to suffer from either standing all the time, or everytime something exciting might happen. They have got the disabled section perfect for the South stand (only found out by mistake with a transfer for the City game). the other thing is even though the East and West are perfect, they are a lot more expensive, and due to some peoples disability it is very hard to earn a living.
Yes and no. I had a membership so would often end up in park lane upper which was sitting.
I get what you are saying about Paxton but the new Paxton was never going to be like the old one due to the relocation of the away fans.
The ticket pricing is an issue that I would agree with but I’m just advocating the lower ends behind the goals for standing. That leaves a lot of the ground open to those who want to sit.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on the point about atmosphere being better/worse with sitting/standing.
tomorrow I'm in the North middle tier (if you fancy a quick beer though will be there to early for you lol) and unfortunately will suffer when it comes to key moments when we attack the Paxton. Myself I would say that most of those originally in the old Park Lane would of stayed there, it's only the 1's that want the interaction with the away that might of headed there
The problem with banning people who persistently stand, especially those next to the away fans, is that it's an uneven playing field. Away fans nearly always stand throughout and the police/stewards are not going to evict 3,000 .Utd are probably the worst and my memory might be wrong, but I'm sure at least one club refused to sell allocations to them after several seasons of warning them.
If they wanted me to sit down during games then maybe they should have designed the safe standing rails better. I have a post that comes down by my left knee that will be painful to sit next to with my leg pressed up against it. I doubt I’m the only one with the issue.
Park lane lower and parts of the shelf were always standing. Personally I believe that behind the goals and in particular, next to the away fans should always be standing. There are plenty of other parts of the ground that are all seating and always have been.
The club want to bang on about having a great atmosphere but that comes from the people standing. Putting the 1882 lot bang in the middle of the “wall of noise” was bizarre.
I get people have mobility issues and I know someone who kept away as he had a pretty nasty crash that’s left him on crutches. People such as my dad probably don’t want to stand all game and that’s why he’s got his ticket where he did.
It’s something that was always going to be an issue in the first few seasons of the stadium. People arrogantly laughed at West Ham in fighting but the same situation is unfolding here.
If my section becomes all seating then I’ll look to move ASAP and I’m sure those sitting in standing areas will do so aswell.