Shameful minutes ‘silence’

[Dave1882]

No one should ever disrespect a minutes silence. But talk of banning people seems over the top.

Never said about banning. Said about other Spurs fans making them unwelcome

 

[riggi]

Never said about banning. Said about other Spurs fans making them unwelcome

Im sure that happened..

 

[JCRD]

I agree with this. I was having a go at Liverpool being the reason why we had no games last week (I was saying it in jest really as I hate the ****s) but really, I was embarrassed here. If this was Liverpool or Arsenal, we would be tearing their heads off...

The issue is - yiou get one person saying something then another telling him to shut up loudly - and before you know it it all descends into a farce

 

[Tucker]

Never said about banning. Said about other Spurs fans making them unwelcome

Ah so mob justice is better? Still don’t think that’s the way to go.

Others have been suggesting banning too.

 

[HodisGawd]

You can't ban people. This isn't North Korea.

 

[Metalhead]

It would be very easy for the club to review footage and identify those that disrespected the minutes silence. Simply ban them.

I'm not sure about that. I do think that it would certainly have been better to keep your opinions to yourself - I'm no royalist but I don't need to vocalise my views in that way but I see no reason whatsoever to ban someone over this. I'd feel uncomfortable over that as it seems a tad undemocratic even if there is a time and a place to express one's views.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I'm on the fence - they're pricks for being disrespectful, but you can't really ban someone or charge them with anything like "being a prick".

Not going to get into it, I think that anyone vocally disrupting the mourning is a ballsack - know your enemy and pick your battlefield; the middle of a minute's silence for someone recently deceased, among people who are mourning and regardless of that have literally no power to change anything in that moment, it's just fucking stupid.

I don't like my mates grandma, she was a spiteful, racist old bastard and everyone's really rather glad she's dead, but they respected her funeral - I didn't feel the need to point out she was an arsehole during the service and neither did anyone else. I didn't mind the Queen, she seemed pretty reasonable as a person.

Lets see how passionate all these people are in six months time about dismantling the monarchy, or Prince Andrew being a shrub-rocketeer - it'll be back to the two or three militant communist friends we all have on bookface, constantly posting memes mis-quoting Karl Marx and how Jeremy Corbyn is some sort of martyr.

 

[Trix]

I'm not sure about that. I do think that it would certainly have been better to keep your opinions to yourself - I'm no royalist but I don't need to vocalise my views in that way but I see no reason whatsoever to ban someone over this. I'd feel uncomfortable over that as it seems a tad undemocratic even if there is a time and a place to express one's views.

I don't understand what democracy has to do with it to be honest. It's about respect. If you don't respect the monarch fine, if you don't respect the Queen herself fine. Then respect the fact the club has requested we be silent for a mere 60 seconds. If you have an issue with someone in power then protest, and show your discourse when they are alive not just after they've died. That would be the democratic thing to do.

 

[vuzp]

It’s just a complete lack of respect and decency as a human being to not just be quiet for 60 seconds for someone that has passed away.
Just incredible how anyone can defend it.

 

[dagraham]

It's happened at every game so far. I thought that was why they began doing minute's applauses a while back? It drowns out the idiots. How you can't be silent for 60 seconds baffles me. It really isn't that hard to do.

Tell that to my 8 year old daughter, the girl just won’t shut up .

In all seriousness though, I agree with you. Has always done my head in during minute silences whenever I’ve been at the ground or watched on TV.

 

[riggi]

Think you lot are looking too much into this. My betting is that it was a few pissheads trying to be funny. I might be wrong on that but it didn’t feel like people making a “statement”.

 

[DiamondLites]

A minutes silence was always going to be dicey, whether you like it or not the Royal Family are a divisive issue, and you were always going to get a few who take the to opportunity to voice their opinion. A minutes applause would of been the safer route to go down, doesn’t allow that opportunity and still shows respect

 

[aliyid]

From what I could make out (North upper) it was people still in the bar area singing spurs songs and people out in the stands shouting down the corridors “SHUT THE FUCK UP”.

It was impeccably observed by everyone in the stands but you could hear faint chants in the distance then one or two voices screaming at them ?‍

I personally gave them the benefit of the doubt that they didn’t realise the time and were so deep into their drinking and singing that they didn’t twig it was the minute silence at that moment.

 

[spursyido1]

From what I could make out (North upper) it was people still in the bar area singing spurs songs and people out in the stands shouting down the corridors “SHUT THE FUCK UP”.

It was impeccably observed by everyone in the stands but you could hear faint chants in the distance then one or two voices screaming at them ?‍

I personally gave them the benefit of the doubt that they didn’t realise the time and were so deep into their drinking and singing that they didn’t twig it was the minute silence at that moment.

I was just about to say this - from where I was in East/North Upper it seemed like it was coming from the bars/concourse (South?) rather than the stands. Sounded like people had just come into the stadium, singing spurs songs and they hadnt twigged it was the silence - not any kind of protest.

Dunno if anyone actually saw it or was closer?

 

[wrd]

I'm of the opinion that regards of my personal feelings towards any subject, the minute silent isn't the moment to be disrespectful, though I believe you are not obligated to participate and if I disagreed with what it was for, I'd wait to take my seat.

However I think it's pretty clear we're getting to the point with the current situation involving the Royal Family where people are now seeing it as their opportunity to show how virtuoso they are. In the same way that people were going down their streets during the NHS clap to try and call out those who didn't participate. I don't think suggesting fellow Spurs fans should turn on those who don't feel the same way as you on the subject is the one personally. I think we keep seeing this way to often where people seem to see a moment where there's a lot of emotion and feel the need to show how much they care by bringing some aggression to the table and it borders on totalitarianism tbh.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Drunk football fans in being ****s shocker.

Having said that, if you spend 12 years holding the public in contempt, don't be surprised when the public act contemptuously.

 

[Serpico]

Why is there a thread and posters talking about these few idiots. The respect was there by the 99.9% so Ignore. We all understand common decency. Trying to understand the few fools is impossible.

 

[Dave1882]

Why is there a thread and posters talking about these few idiots. The respect was there by the 99.9% so Ignore. We all understand common decency. Trying to understand the few fools is impossible.

A good point, well made!

 

[bomberH]

Almost certain it was pissheads even more drunk than usual due to a 530pm kick off, making noise as they were making their way into the actual stadium area from the concourse where they may not have realised the minute’s silence had started. And a handful of idiots of course.

Then there were shushes. And loud replies from individuals. I don’t think any of it was political, just drunk back and forths from 50% not realising what was going on and 50% fuckwits who don’t care for a minute’s silence. It was really cringey but hopefully they purposely drown stuff like that out on live tv (like they apparently did with Liverpool) so it seemed silent and respectful watching it live. It was probably around 20/30 people in total, which is nothing out of 60k, but unfortunately a minute’s silence is the one thing where the vast minority really stand out.

 

[ralvy]

This will happen at every club, there are always going to be people like that. You can't ban fans for it though, it's just disrespectful and sad for them really.

If you can ban them for racist insults, then why can't them be banned for something like this?