Player Watch Player Watch: Richarlison

[spurs9]

For sure I think you’re right, that is probably part of it. Age and stamina probably plays a part in that also. Plus I think the role of the WF in this system to keep the width doesn’t necessarily suit him stylistically.

I’d still like to try him and Richy up top this weekend but I don’t think it’s a long term solution. It’s a bit of conundrum because I think we would be better with a more focal point in the box but you can’t drop Son as he is our best attacking player. Ether way it’s just food for thought when considering Richy’s future and if we were to get another striker in the summer.

Yeah, he doesn't 100% suit either position, yet he is our top goals scorer and no-one in our team has assisted more. I was thinking earlier that, if he played LW, he would benefit from playing with a striker like Zirkzee, someone who can hold the ball up, turn and play a through ball, but Son is 32 in July, so no point bringing in a player for the short term.

The way I see it, assuming he signs a new contract, Son should play a mix of Striker and LW, depending on the opposition, as first as a starter and then eventually as a sub, when his age catches up with him.

 

[tooey]

Yeah, he doesn't 100% suit either position, yet he is our top goals scorer and no-one in our team has assisted more. I was thinking earlier that, if he played LW, he would benefit from playing with a striker like Zirkzee, someone who can hold the ball up, turn and play a through ball, but Son is 32 in July, so no point bringing in a player for the short term.

The way I see it, assuming he signs a new contract, Son should play a mix of Striker and LW, depending on the opposition, as first as a starter and then eventually as a sub, when his age catches up with him.

I completely agree, I don't think it's a question of Son vs Richy up top, I think Son can still do a fine job coming in from the left, even if he isn't as explosive as he was in his 20's.

I also agree with getting a CAM in. Maddisons performances as of late have raised some questions, I'm hopeful he can regain his early season form pretty sharpish. Another option is to use Deki as Maddisons back-up, although he's not really like for like and doesn't have the ability to run games like Maddison.

I do think there's an upgrade needed somewhere in our front line, I just don't know who's sacrificed. We have 5/6 players in our attack who are all dangerous on their day but all suffer fairly badly with inconsistency.

 

[spurs9]

I completely agree, I don't think it's a question of Son vs Richy up top, I think Son can still do a fine job coming in from the left, even if he isn't as explosive as he was in his 20's.

I also agree with getting a CAM in. Maddisons performances as of late have raised some questions, I'm hopeful he can regain his early season form pretty sharpish. Another option is to use Deki as Maddisons back-up, although he's not really like for like and doesn't have the ability to run games like Maddison.

I do think there's an upgrade needed somewhere in our front line, I just don't know who's sacrificed. We have 5/6 players in our attack who are all dangerous on their day but all suffer fairly badly with inconsistency.

I would rather bring in a #6 that can run games and have Deki as Maddisons competition. We also have Donley and Devine than play there and I wouldn't be surprised if Bergvall can play that role. I really don't see a need to bring in an AM.

Upgrade in our front line is easy for me, keep Son, Richy, Johnson and Veliz (and move Deki to AM) bring in 2 players to replace Werner, Gil and Solomon (due to injury problems).

 

[rossdapep]

I get that it's not always the best option, but I personally don't think Son out wide is near as bad for us as many seem to think. It puts two genuine goalscorers in our front three with him and Richarlison, and ensures good delivery from either wing with Johnson on the other side.

Son is not so effective against any team that sits deep as a CF.

He has to drop for the ball but lacks the ability to play with his back to goal.

But against teams that play a higher line, Son is lethal in that role.

It's tricky though because you can watch a team and think Son will get space, only for that team to sit deeper than usual cause its us.

You can see Ange's predicament

 

[Styopa]

I would rather bring in a #6 that can run games and have Deki as Maddisons competition. We also have Donley and Devine than play there and I wouldn't be surprised if Bergvall can play that role. I really don't see a need to bring in an AM.

Upgrade in our front line is easy for me, keep Son, Richy, Johnson and Veliz (and move Deki to AM) bring in 2 players to replace Werner, Gil and Solomon (due to injury problems).

I like the idea but I can’t remember Deki ever playing really well in the AM role. I would really like to see him develop in that role but at the moment it feels like a significant drop off when Maddison is not available or out of form.

 

[allatsea]

Agree so question becomes do we keep him as a squad option or cash in for a decent chunk of change and get someone more suitable to Ange’s system.

Sell whilst we can for good money.

 

[McFlash]

Sell whilst we can for good money.

Can we though? There aren't many clubs out there that can afford to be paying big money at the moment.
I very much doubt he'd be willing to go to the shitty Saudi league and they are pretty much the only place with the funds to afford him.
Plus, I wouldn't want to send him there anyway.

There are very few options available to sell any player for "good money" at present.

 

[DannyNZ]

I like the idea but I can’t remember Deki ever playing really well in the AM role. I would really like to see him develop in that role but at the moment it feels like a significant drop off when Maddison is not available or out of form.

Sometimes the obvious is the way to go, when Maddison needs to be spelled, covered or rested then the go to guy should be GLC. The answer isn’t moving an out of form RW into such a critical role.

 

[Styopa]

Sell whilst we can for good money.

Agree with @McFlash. The issue is getting good money for him. Not many clubs are able yet alone willing to spend fifty or sixty million on him. I think if a club does come in with that kind of money we will sell. One of the Saudi clubs maybe but maybe he won’t want to go there.

The fact he’s a Brazil international and his salary is not massive will probably make it easier to get a decent fee. But the market is still very limited. Most of the European clubs would probably prefer a loan deal.

 

[GutBucket]

He would be more useful if we played with inside forwards rather than wingers, he would be able to rotate on left wing and striker position. We already have Son for that though, they somewhat overlap although they are very different in style.

Nobody will spend a lot on him this Summer so no point in selling him yet, at least he is taking measures to improve mentally. Even at his best he is limited and injury prone but we don't have many players that are able to get us 10+ goals or that are great in air. He proved against Marseille that he can be clutch in CL, hopefully he helps us there again next season.

 

[ajspurs]

This is 100% correct.

Son is a superb goalscorer, ruthless and brilliant on the counterattack and still has great pace given he isn't 20 anymore. But he is a second striker and not a focal point. Richy far better in the air and with his back to goal. Richy can clearly play across the front 3 competently as required (which is why we bought him given we still had Kane!) but best as a 9.

Yeah, I just haven't quite seen what others have seen in that he's now incapable of playing out wide. Like you say he still has great pace, he hasn't become a tortoise. There were a couple of times against Fulham for example when the ball went out to Johnson on the left, and they were really tame finishes, which you're gonna get with Werner too. If they're arriving in the box then they're capable of getting goals, but if it's with the ball at feet and time to think, Son is in a whole other league.

To be honest though I'm not saying I can't understand him being put centrally, I'm just not as dismissive as others of him being played wide too.

Son is not so effective against any team that sits deep as a CF.

He has to drop for the ball but lacks the ability to play with his back to goal.

But against teams that play a higher line, Son is lethal in that role.

It's tricky though because you can watch a team and think Son will get space, only for that team to sit deeper than usual cause its us.

You can see Ange's predicament

Yeah it's certainly not easy. I think if you can get to a point where Son is also able to impose himself well from the left against those higher lined teams as well, whilst having Richarlison next to him playing centrally, you can end up having a system that can work effectively against any style of opposition.

 

[tevezito]

I wonder how far away we still are from the time when Son becomes our super sub who comes on at either LW or ST depending on the opposition and state of the game and scores a hat trick every week against tiring legs a la Leicester.

 

[king_yid]

I wonder how far away we still are from the time when Son becomes our super sub who comes on at either LW or ST depending on the opposition and state of the game and scores a hat trick every week against tiring legs a la Leicester.

Lo doy uno o dos temporadas mas, hoy en dia estos jugadores me parecen jugar bien adentro sus treintas.

 

[BorisLloris]

Lo doy uno o dos temporadas mas, hoy en dia estos jugadores me parecen jugar bien adentro sus treintas.

Si

 

[CookieYiddo]

Lo doy uno o dos temporadas mas, hoy en dia estos jugadores me parecen jugar bien adentro sus treintas.

Agreed. I think he'll play well into his mid to late thirties.

 

[tevezito]

Lo doy uno o dos temporadas mas, hoy en dia estos jugadores me parecen jugar bien adentro sus treintas.

For sure, but I think the best plan may be to play him central against teams who don't low block us and coming off the bench against classic low blocks. Some particular teams, maybe on the wing, or depending on who else is available. I see him starting most games somewhere, but combining the three options rather than having his position set in stone. This may also allow him to look after himself more and extend his career at the top even further.