Player Watch Player Watch: Pedro Porro

[Wick3d]

Are we even sure this is the one Conte really wants?

 

[chas vs dave]

Right, they are at it again. FFS.

Talk of them paying 100m for the Argentinian player. Ffp is a farce.

 

[dtxspurs]

Are we even sure this is the one Conte really wants?

No way of knowing that really, but I'd be shocked if the club stump 45mil on a player he doesn't want.

 

[ukdy]

It might only save us €5 million or so but every little helps.

*only €5m!!! Do it again over 4 or 5 other deals... it suddenly becomes a nice pot of money to fund another transfer. To some it's penny pinching.. to others it's smart financial management.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Are we even sure this is the one Conte really wants?

Honestly at this point who knows, we thought he wanted Spence & look how that’s turned out.

 

[Snuzzy]

*only €5m!!! Do it again over 4 or 5 other deals... it suddenly becomes a nice pot of money to fund another transfer. To some it's penny pinching.. to others it's smart financial management.

In the scenario outlined it would be 5m plus a possible/probable lawsuit which we would deserve to lose, though.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

In the scenario outlined it would be 5m plus a possible/probable lawsuit which we would deserve to lose, though.

We did it before with Lo Celso and I think we've done it on another transfer too and it's not been a problem.

 

[greavesy461]

We did it before with Lo Celso and I think we've done it on another transfer too and it's not been a problem.

It might be these little money-saving deals that cost us in club and agent relationships in the long-run though? Other clubs seem to operate with much more ease, even when paying market rate.

 

[rossdapep]

Chelsea supposedly want the Croatian lad from Celtic so not sure if the Porro rumours are true

 

[GutBucket]

Chelsea tried to sign Richarlison late just to fuck with us, can see it happening, hopefully Porro also picks us.

 

[taidgh]

Chelsea supposedly want the Croatian lad from Celtic so not sure if the Porro rumours are true

wouldnt mind him here at all. looked every bit a conte-style player from WC viewings.

 

[Dazzazzad]

I don't think Conte would play a 19 year old so we would have another Spence situation on our hands.

We should keep signing young right backs, each one younger than the last, until he has no choice but to play one of them.

 

[hamsup_sotong]

unless porro fancies a shot getting into the team ahead of Reece James. He pretty much walks straight into ours

 

[yido_number1]

We should keep signing young right backs, each one younger than the last, until he has no choice but to play one of them.

Or maybe just sign the players the manager wants instead of the chairman

 

[rajmak2000]

Maybe Porro isn't the only player we are interested in signing from Sporting?

Tottenham Hotspur are reportedly interested in signing the Sporting CP midfielder, Manuel Ugarte.

According to a report from the Portuguese publication Record, Tottenham are one of the clubs keeping tabs on the 21-year-old Uruguay international.

The defensive midfielder has a contract with Sporting until the summer of 2026 and the player has a release clause of €60 million.

However, Sporting are hoping to extend his contract and increase the release clause to €80 million. However, the Portuguese outfit have not been able to agree on an extension with the player’s representatives. Apparently, they are willing to pay him wages of around €500,000 to €600,000. But the player’s agent is demanding wages of around €700,000 per year.

It will be interesting to see if the two parties can come to a compromise in the coming weeks.

Ugarte was quite impressive against Tottenham in the Champions League group stages earlier this season and it is no surprise that Antonio Conte is keeping tabs on the player. The 21-year-old has the potential to develop into a top-class player in the future.

 

[kmk]

Sorry if this question has already been asked, but why does Pedro Porro have only one cap?

Can he only play as a wingback, not in a back four?

Spain haven’t been great in the past couple of major tournaments, so I’m surprised he hasn’t got more caps.

Is £40 million overpriced for him?

 

[brasil_spur]

We could offer the release clause but with City having a 30% sell on fee surely it makes more sense for Sporting even if we offered them less money but in a loan to buy structure.

For example, if we just gave them the release clause, they'd end up with:
€45m minus 30% to City (€13.5m), profit of €31.5m

But if we offered them €40m with €20m as a loan fee and a €20m obligation fee after the loan, they'd get this:
€20m loan PLUS €20m fee atfer loan minus 30% of that (€6m), which would give Sporting profit of €34m.


So if we offer them a loan to buy structure, we can help them profit more even taking a smaller fee.

It might only save us €5 million or so but every little helps.

No doubt this is what FP and Levy are cooking up as we speak. Personally, for the small savings possible here, I'd meet the release clause and be negotiating with the player already with a few to getting him a medical on Tuesday next week. I get we might be able to save £4m by doing the above, it would however piss off City (ok probably not bothered about that but worth remembering) and gives other teams time to come in and agree a deal. Rumours of both Chelsea and Utd looking at Dumfries doing the rounds today, so both are potentially after a RWB then, which could bite us in the ass with Porro if they switch focus.

 

[brasil_spur]

*only €5m!!! Do it again over 4 or 5 other deals... it suddenly becomes a nice pot of money to fund another transfer. To some it's penny pinching.. to others it's smart financial management.

Or, as we've seen before, we penny pinch, lose our targets, end up playing the rest of the season with Emerson as first choice RWB and miss out on silverware and top 4, costing us far more than we've saved across the other 4 or 5 deals.

It has to be said again - CL qualification is effectively worth well over £50m when compared to EL qualification. And that's just the money side, there's more to it than this as it helps us buy and retain the best players (guaranteeing more success and more income) and the best managers (again more success and more income).

Basically it's very easy to measure some things like a player costing £25m versus £30m, that's easy. But it only paints a small part of the overall picture - and this, for me, is where Levy fucks up. He reminds me of so many "old school" business people - where they all get their degrees in economics and went on to do an MBA and then 10+ years at a big 5 consultancy firm. The first thing they always do when they walk into a business is look at overspend on costs and trim them back. However they forget that this disentivses staff and causes them to loose their best employees. Right away there's an increase in recruitment and hiring costs that usually massively offsets the savings made. Then there's a drop in work quality and clients spend less with you, and over time things continue to go down hill and more cost savings are looked for which drives more of this behaviour. It's the same mindset that Levy has and it needs to change, we need to invest right now to continue our success. We don't need to go and splash £100m on Hakimi or £100m on Felix or anything outlandish like that. But we do need to identify suitable targets and pull the fucking trigger quickly, instead of pissing around over a few £m that might likely end up costing us more in the medium term.

 

[Tucker]

Conte wants Hindcapie apparently

Why are you posting this in the Porro thread?

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Why are you posting this in the Porro thread?

sorry should have started a new one, not sure where else to post. Seems like a strong link from a journalist but will delete if needed