Player Watch: Harry Winks

dtxspurs

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This was written in that dirt rag The Sun “Then, in the fourth minute of stoppage time, another Cresswell free-kick was headed away by Kane but a wayward touch from Harry Winks fell into the path of Manuel Lanzini, who arrowed a goal-of-the-season contenderinto the top corner from 30 yards to send West Ham into delirium.”

Another excerpt from Football London

”There are of course other reasons why Tottenham ended up throwing away two points in the game, including some iffy defending in crunch moments from Moussa Sissoko, Davinson Sanchez, Bale's missed chance from close range, that foul by Serge Aurier, and then that Winks "clearance" that should have been sent long and deep.

My point being, these are opinions, and these opinions don’t suddenly make them facts because a pundit or a football writer has written or said them, they don’t make you point by more valid because you happen to agree with them and do not invalidate other peoples observations like you have been banging on about the last few pages.
The usual suspects.
 

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Some of the criticism on here is so over the top. If you don’t think he’s good enough for our team then that’s fine, everyone has different opinions, but he’s been in or around the first team for every manager he’s played under, including our current manager who is one of the best ever managers the game has ever produced. He’s not as bad as some of you are making out. Whatever your opinions on Poch, Mourinho and Southgate are, I think it’s safe to say they know football more than any of us. I’m not a fan of Southgate for instance, but he’s been in the game for over 30 years. They all pick Winks.

For me, his game has stalled a bit over the last 18 months or so but I still think he’s a decent player. I don’t think it was his fault that we drew yesterday. After the first 20 minutes, West Ham were just as good as us if not better in every aspect of the game. Moyes even said he couldn’t have a go at them at half time because he thought they played really well bar the goals conceded. Ndombele (who had been brilliant) was tiring when he came off so I don’t blame Jose for making the sub. Mistakes were made by Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier and Winks for their goals but also by the team as a whole. We took our foot off the gas when we went 3-0 up.

We should never lose 3 goals in 10 mins but Winks wasn’t the reason for it. At least one goal had been coming for ages, well before he came on. It’s the one thing that slightly annoys me about Jose, we always seem to slow down if we score a couple of early goals. That needs to change or be managed much better by the players.

Just my opinion of course. Sometimes shit happens in football. The media and fans were so focused on Bale returning, that was West Ham’s team talk sorted. Yes we should’ve won and hopefully we won’t fuck up again and be better for it in the long run.
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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His whole training life has probably been, control the ball and pass it, not hoof it clear. He tried to do what he has been trained to do but unfortunately he failed and from this Lanzini smashed it in.
You genuinely believe that a professional footballer with both European and international experience has never been taught to get the ball as far away from danger as he can in situations such as yesterday's?

We all view this with hindsight but no one thought Lanzini would do that if Winks failed with his control, obviously if he knew that he would have smashed it.
Ok so he does know to clear the ball then? He just analysed the situation incorrectly then.

It doesn't matter what anybody thought might happen. You don't give the ball to the opponent to find out.
 

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He’s been first team only out of necessity. same as Sissoko, not based off their merit or ability.
 

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what the feck does that even mean? There's almost always a better player out there not on your team.
That they were essentially the only fit warm bodies in midfield and that’s why they started. Not because they were beating out other players at the position.
 

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That they were essentially the only fit warm bodies in midfield and that’s why they started. Not because they were beating out other players at the position.
well other than Skipp who was loaned out, Dele, Fernandes and Harvey White whoever that is.
 

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I assume it means the same thing to me as it does to every single former player pundit who has commentated on this incident.

Not one has blamed Winks for a catastrophic defensive error or choice. Neither do I.

You're free to believe whatever you like. (y)
A 50/50 is when two players meet the ball at the exact same time foot to foot but whatever you say lol
 

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A 50/50 is when two players meet the ball at the exact same time foot to foot but whatever you say lol
mate. Your wasting your time. If a ex pro says it wasn’t his fault then that’s the law. The same ex pro who ironically said VVD was the best CB he’d ever seen, a cb who’s team got 7 pumped by them last week.

you can’t help some people.
 
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