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Nope he shouldn’t of, he should have though.
Hate that grammar! Duly corrected lol.
Nope he shouldn’t of, he should have though.
This is not a 50/50 and anyone thinks he couldn’t have cleared this has lost the plot
This is not a 50/50 and anyone thinks he couldn’t have cleared this has lost the plot
There's much he could've done about the ball getting to Lanzini in the first place though.Way too much emphasis going into the lack of Winks not clearing it, you'd think he was in his own box going by the reaction off here and presented them with an easy chance, not much you can do about a speculative effort that flies in the top corner, Lanzini doesn't score that 99 times out of 100.
There's much he could've done about the ball getting to Lanzini in the first place though.
That's fair enough. I'm not suggesting we hang him for his mistake, but I don't get why we should pretend it wasn't one.I don't think Jose would be focusing on that too much, Lanzini hitting an absolute worldy wouldn't have pissed him off, as he said that's football, it was an absolute freak goal and unlikely to happen to him again. What Jose would be pissed about is our mentality and our collective defending.
That's fair enough. I'm not suggesting we hang him for his mistake, but I don't get why we should pretend it wasn't one.
Maybe. Probably, even. But then, there's a reason they are our untouchables in the first place. For instance, I don't think we would've drawn yesterday had Kane not been so selfish in the second half. But it would be silly to sit here and drag him for it, given that he was the main reason were practically home and hosed to begin with. Plus, he's Harry Kane. His mistakes are going to be far outweighed by the number of times he contributes to us winning games. That obviously isn't the case with Winks.The reaction would have been different is Bale, Kane or Son or any of our untouchables did that, way different.
The reaction would have been different is Bale, Kane or Son or any of our untouchables did that, way different.
thata because all those above players have vast amounts of credit in the bank and have proven time and time again that they have fantastic all round ability. If they had done what winks did yesterday firstly I’d be very surprised and then second I’d still criticise them for inadvertently costing us a goal.
even if many people don’t think Winks is of the required standard of which I am very much one of them, they are still allowed to point out a very obvious mistake that he’s just made. My initial reaction watching it in real time was why didn’t he lump it, having now brought myself to watch a replay I very much stand by my point of view.
Which means you don't look at things objectively, rather based on reputations. Winks has a bad reputation amongst some and is very obvious on here therefore you're just proving my point.
50/50 have you ever played the game to know what a 50/50 actually is lol
I assume it means the same thing to me as it does to every single former player pundit who has commentated on this incident.
Not one has blamed Winks for a catastrophic defensive error or choice. Neither do I.
You're free to believe whatever you like.
The usual suspects.This was written in that dirt rag The Sun “Then, in the fourth minute of stoppage time, another Cresswell free-kick was headed away by Kane but a wayward touch from Harry Winks fell into the path of Manuel Lanzini, who arrowed a goal-of-the-season contenderinto the top corner from 30 yards to send West Ham into delirium.”
Another excerpt from Football London
”There are of course other reasons why Tottenham ended up throwing away two points in the game, including some iffy defending in crunch moments from Moussa Sissoko, Davinson Sanchez, Bale's missed chance from close range, that foul by Serge Aurier, and then that Winks "clearance" that should have been sent long and deep.”
My point being, these are opinions, and these opinions don’t suddenly make them facts because a pundit or a football writer has written or said them, they don’t make you point by more valid because you happen to agree with them and do not invalidate other peoples observations like you have been banging on about the last few pages.
His whole training life has probably been, control the ball and pass it, not hoof it clear. He tried to do what he has been trained to do but unfortunately he failed and from this Lanzini smashed it in.
Ok so he does know to clear the ball then? He just analysed the situation incorrectly then.We all view this with hindsight but no one thought Lanzini would do that if Winks failed with his control, obviously if he knew that he would have smashed it.