Player watch: Christian Eriksen

[Deleted member 29446]

I'm only joking with yer. I don't think it's all his fault, I don't think he's intentionally downing tools either. I think his head has dropped and nothing he does is going right atm. The rest of the team being weak-willed cucks being orchestrated by a dazed and confused Poch isn't helping.

 

[nailsy]

Which games in particular are you on about? Bar the CL final where the whole team were below par...off the top of my head:

FA Cup semi against Utd - provided as assist

FA Cup semi against Chelsea - provided 2 assists

Man City away (2016) scored the winner in a 2-1 win

Palace/Swansea away (2017) scored winners to keep up the chase with Chelsea

Chelsea away (2018) scored an absolute beaut to make it 1-1

Im sure there's more but what matches are you talking about?

And the World Cup Play off match where he won it almost by himself.

Seeing this version of him genuinely hurts. He's devoid of confidence and he either doesn't try the creative passes he's capable of, or second guesses himself to the point that potentially promising situations just fizzes out. Too bad about the through ball towards Son in the first half, half a yard adjustment on that one, and Son would be one on one with the goalkeeper.

And when Eriksen doesn't do the stuff he's good at well, the jumping away from challenges and getting done one on one defensively stands out even more.

What does get a bit annoying though, is this simplistic view (even among grown men) that playing at a level so far below what he's capable of is something he actively chooses.

You could see in the first half that he was trying to play the defence splitting pass, but he was just under-hitting it a bit, or not quite getting the angle right. It probably is a confidence issue and like you say, when the stuff he's good at isn't there it highlights the stuff he's bad at. I can't believe he would want to play this badly. It doesn't help him get the move he wants in any way.

I don't think he should be playing at the moment, but keeping him out of the team won't help him regain confidence either. If Lo Celso hadn't picked up that injury he wouldn't be playing as much. It will be interesting to see who out of those two starts against Belgrade on Wednesday night.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Yet he still gets picked ...

 

[skaz04nik]

What really is embarrassing is the amount of people blaming it all on him, they're so blinded by their hate for the player it's unreal. Every 2nd post in the match thread was about how shit Eriksen was, and when he made that good freekick. 1 PERSON pointed it out 500 people. Don't you think that's funny? It just proves my point.

he's one of our most expensive players, at his peak age, playing at his preferred position, having had enough starting minutes this season (= having credit from manager). He should fucking fly and lead the team by example

What do we get? 0 attempts to win an aerial dual, not tackling, not winning a ground duel

Ok he's there to create not defend? XG 0,24 vs Everton, nice job.

Don't tell me the whole team was shit. I kept watching Ndombele trying to get the ball to the final third with 1-2 opponents on his shoulders, and then this Eriksen gets the ball and does what? Gives the ball back or to defense

 

[Deleted member 29446]

he's one of our most expensive players, at his peak age, playing at his preferred position, having had enough starting minutes this season (= having credit from manager). He should fucking fly and lead the team by example

What do we get? 0 attempts to win an aerial dual, not tackling, not winning a ground duel

Ok he's there to create not defend? XG 0,24 vs Everton, nice job.

Don't tell me the whole team was shit. I kept watching Ndombele trying to get the ball to the final third with 1-2 opponents on his shoulders, and then this Eriksen gets the ball and does what? Gives the ball back or to defense

If we must compare xG stats you can compare him to Dele Alli.

Not much better is it?

 

[skaz04nik]

If we must compare xG stats you can compare him to Dele Alli.

First you cannot compare AM played as AM and secondary striker played god knows where

Second which period is that? 16k minutes is what, 179 games, his whole career with Spurs?

 

[Deleted member 29446]

First you cannot compare AM played as AM and secondary striker played god knows where

Second which period is that? 16k minutes is what, 179 games, his whole career with Spurs?

So we cannot compare Alli and Eriksen which basically plays in the same position behind the striker? If you said I couldn't compare Kane to Eriksen, fine I understand that. But you lost me at why I can't compare Alli.

Sorry that was the whole carrer.

Here it's for 19/20:

 

[McFlash]

Now, I've no real idea about what we do for training but I'm guessing it involves a lot of running around and "being fit".
Eriksen is very fit and as so many like to roll out in his defence, he does run about a lot (even if in largely ineffective places).

We also know that Poch likes to pick players who put in the effort in training but maybe he needs to rethink this method and start picking players because of how much they show a desire to play, not because of how much they can run.

Lo Celso might not be able to run as much as Eriksen but I'll bet anything that he's got a greater desire to prove himself on game day.

 

[dudu]

This is a fair post but you're missing the point with the Lloris comparison. Eriksen put himself in this position by saying that he is looking to seek a new challenge...even though he did cavaet is by saying that he will stay if there are no other options its pretty obvious that his head was elsewhere, Lloris hasn't done this.

This has given the fans an excuse to get on his back rightly or wrongly they are seeing him as the weak link. When a move didn't materialise in the summer he had two options either sort his head out and do what Ramsey and Hazard done in their last years and put a shift in, or let it affect him and sulk, unfortunately he chose the latter.

So we are where we are with Eriksen, he's getting stick because he's non commtial and he's not playing to anywhere his ability, it's not his fault he's getting picked but you can't expect fans to not look in his direction and expect better.

He wasnt sulking yesterday.

He was coming deep to pick up the ball in the first half.

His confidence is shot like so many of our player's atm. Ndombele played some shocking through balls too did he not?

 

[skaz04nik]

So we cannot compare Alli and Eriksen which basically plays in the same position behind the striker?

Alli at his best has played as a second striker not AM. Btw his playing habits do correlate with the map you shown, he's much more focused on finishing rather than key passes

If you want classic AM to AM comparison take Isco

 

[sickboy_se]

I'm split. He's playing like shit, yes. But on the other hand whenever he's playing you know he only need to get his game on for like 2 seconds with the ball on his feet in a decent position and we score a goal. He has that quality and he's certainly not mishitting balls intentionally. Maybe that's where Poch is coming from with picking him. The chance of that moment of brilliance is worth the risk of 89,5 minutes of shit. Part of me agrees, part of me don't.

He's supposed to be one of our top 3 "stars" and the example he's setting (be it unintentionally perhaps) with his current play is causing insecurity with the other players. The whole team looks be lacking a sense of urgency on the pitch and poor form or not, his body language and play choices out there isn't doing us any favours in changing that. I can live with poor passing if you at least look like you're ready to suffer for the team. I'm not seeing that. (And no, he's not the only one but he's the one being discussed here and also have a bigger responsibility to lead than others due to his status in the squad fair or not)

But then again...if we only got that moment of magic...just once a game...

I know you're supposed to have a very one-sided view, otherwise this whole internet forum thing falls apart so apologies for being so...both-sided...

 

[dudu]

Yet he still gets picked ...

Whoscored.com gives him a "through ball/key pass" where I believe squwaka hasn't, so these stats are a little subjective.

Let's do a comparison vs other players on the pitch though, to be fair as while I think he had a poor game, the form of our players is collective, not really down to one individual being a sulk.

he should be our most creative player, he has the ability, he isn't using it, but who was yesterday? I blame him for his performance but I blame others for theirs.

I'll go with Whoscored, as its what I always use.

Tackles

Eriksen 0
Alli 0
Ndom 0
Son 0
Siss 1

Dispossessed

Eriksen 2
Alli 0
Ndom 2
Son 3
Siss 0

Key Passes

Eriksen 1
Alli 1
Ndom 0
Son 1
Siss 0

Crosses

Eriksen 3
Alli 0
Ndom 0
Son 0
Siss 0

Shots

Eriksen 0
Alli 1
Ndom 0
Son 1
Siss 0

Dribbles

Eriksen 0
Alli 1
Ndom 3
Son 1
Siss 0

 

[wrd]

Fuck me you're now comparing his playmaking stats vs dele; a player who is not in the team for his build up play, a player whose main asset to make the most of singular moments in games which he did yesterday, he's never been the clubs metronome. I'd say this is nearly as comical as comparing Eriksens playmaking stats to Gazzanigas but over the last 2 games Gazza is edging him.

 

[eViL]

you know he only need to get his game on for like 2 seconds with the ball on his feet in a decent position and we score a goal.

That's not enough. Exactly the same as with Dele, with those two on the pitch we may as well start with 9 men.

 

[McFlash]

I'm split. He's playing like shit, yes. But on the other hand whenever he's playing you know he only need to get his game on for like 2 seconds with the ball on his feet in a decent position and we score a goal. He has that quality and he's certainly not mishitting balls intentionally. Maybe that's where Poch is coming from with picking him. The chance of that moment of brilliance is worth the risk of 89,5 minutes of shit. Part of me agrees, part of me don't.

He's supposed to be one of our top 3 "stars" and the example he's setting (be it unintentionally perhaps) with his current play is causing insecurity with the other players. The whole team looks be lacking a sense of urgency on the pitch and poor form or not, his body language and play choices out there isn't doing us any favours in changing that. I can live with poor passing if you at least look like you're ready to suffer for the team. I'm not seeing that. (And no, he's not the only one but he's the one being discussed here and also have a bigger responsibility to lead than others due to his status in the squad fair or not)

But then again...if we only got that moment of magic...just once a game...

I know you're supposed to have a very one-sided view, otherwise this whole internet forum thing falls apart so apologies for being so...both-sided...

I think that with the way the rest of the team are playing, we cannot afford to carry Eriksen in the hope that he might pull something special out of his arse, once or twice a game. He is currently offering nothing more than hope.

We have other players who can produce a moment of magic but will also contribute in other ways too.

 

[Shadydan]

He wasnt sulking yesterday.

He was coming deep to pick up the ball in the first half.

His confidence is shot like so many of our player's atm. Ndombele played some shocking through balls too did he not?

Is this meant to justify him starting games, him coming deep to collect the ball?

 

[dudu]

Is this meant to justify him starting games, him coming deep to collect the ball?

Nope.

It was to show that he wasn't sulking yesterday.

I never said he should start.

 

[Shadydan]

Nope.

It was to show that he wasn't sulking yesterday.

I never said he should start.

Okay cool but ultimately my point still stands...

 

[Wilsy]

It's heartbreaking to see Eriksen like this, for about 3 seasons he was probably our best player and now he's just a shell of what he once was. It genuinely angers me when I see him play these days as he alone is responsible for his shocking performances and effort levels. He doesn't want to be here and he's made that quite clear.

Worst of all though is Poch and his staff unfathomably continuing to pick the guy... I'm not sure if they're blind, inept or doing it as some sort of joke (or maybe a combination of all 3?) but surely they can see what we're all seeing and that his presence is detrimental to the team. The minutes he is undeservedly getting could and should be going to players like Lo Celso, Sess, Skipp etc.

I have never been Poch out, but the longer he keeps making the same mistakes, awful decisions and his post-match comments when we've been pitifully hideous to watch saying 'the performance was good', the more it's making me think he's taken us as far as he can and that he won't be able to turn this around. I love the guy and how he's transformed the club but we are quite clearly regressing. Based on how much he's done for the club so far, does he deserve to stay and fight for his job for the rest of season? It's a tough one.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Whoscored.com gives him a "through ball/key pass" where I believe squwaka hasn't, so these stats are a little subjective.

Let's do a comparison vs other players on the pitch though, to be fair as while I think he had a poor game, the form of our players is collective, not really down to one individual being a sulk.

he should be our most creative player, he has the ability, he isn't using it, but who was yesterday? I blame him for his performance but I blame others for theirs.

I'll go with Whoscored, as its what I always use.

Tackles

Eriksen 0
Alli 0
Ndom 0
Son 0
Siss 1

Dispossessed

Eriksen 2
Alli 0
Ndom 2
Son 3
Siss 0

Key Passes

Eriksen 1
Alli 1
Ndom 0
Son 1
Siss 0

Crosses

Eriksen 3
Alli 0
Ndom 0
Son 0
Siss 0

Shots

Eriksen 0
Alli 1
Ndom 0
Son 1
Siss 0

Dribbles

Eriksen 0
Alli 1
Ndom 3
Son 1
Siss 0

Thank you!