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[Gb160]

If he is so wonderful (still) why isn’t he still the manager of Chelsea or Man United ?

Why has he won multiple trophies at every single club he's managed?

 

[shelfboy68]

I agree.

Unfortunately I think Alderweireld is out at the end of the season. But if the offers don't come in and Mourinho gets us winning TA might just make his last big contract with us.

As far as I am concerned Kane, Son, Alderweireld and Vertinghen are our best players. They are all now in their prime. Mourinho is perfect for
players in their prime.

The more I think about it the more I think he is right for us. Providing him and Levy ae in agreement with regards to our financial capabilities.

Only the Goblins at gringotts bank would agree with our financial capabilities

 

[Metalhead]

True but the last two managers we had were fired the next season.

A trophy is nice but can't save a manager who is overall doing a poor job.

He wasn't great and I remember Sugar saying in his autobiography that Graham was constantly sniping in the media about how he wasn't being backed in the transfer market but I just thought that he did deserve a bit of credit for winning what was certainly a more prestigious trophy back then.

 

[dontcallme]

Slight fly in the ointment there.

Both Levy and Jose are pragmatists. Can't imagine Levy hiring someone who is expecting top financial backing or Jose accepting a job where he is promised it then not delivered.

 

[dontcallme]

He wasn't great and I remember Sugar saying in his autobiography that Graham was constantly sniping in the media about how he wasn't being backed in the transfer market but I just thought that he did deserve a bit of credit for winning what was certainly a more prestigious trophy back then.

Thing with Graham was that he was backed. He bought half the Wimbledon team and Rebrov.

The league cup win in 1999 was the 2nd trophy I saw us win in my lifetime. I remember not giving a shit. We were terrible that seaosn and clearly going nowhere. We beat a poor Leicester side in the final and outside a victory at Anfield didn't really beat anyone of note to win it.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Thing is though, in all this, the most important thing is: what is Daniel Levy thinking? We can debate it from now until next January but we don't really have a clue what his mindset is. I still think that DL is hugely reluctant to give up on Poch. I know that many cannot see where an upturn in fortune is coming from and it is hard not to empathise with that. If we get an absolute thumping from Liverpool and another bad performance then it might end up being the straw that broke the camel's back but otherwise I just have a feeling that DL will be tempted to stick with Poch for now.

What I believe, is that when Levy has had enough, he'll decide quickly and move ruthlessly. When/what that point is I don't clearly see. But possibly Pochettino will be in charge vs. Liverpool.

 

[Japhet]

This squad is made for Mourinho. Extremely experienced CBs, and he'll play a low block to get the best out of them.

One of the best CFs in world football entering his prime

Powerful midfield options.

Pace in Son and Lucas, flanking Kane for counter attacking football.

He's got the finished articles for most positions. He doesn't need hundreds of millions.

Two quality full backs being the most urgent area to address.

But Mourinho would indentify a strong spine immediately and play to their strengths.

And that's before we even consider his tactical ability and experience, and the instant respect he'd command.

He's a huge name in football and he'd win us trophies, I'm sure of if.

He's grown on me in his punditry role, become more likeable and the break from management could get his hunger back and we could benefit.

Seige mentality at Tottenham, love it.

I think he'd have to buy, and when I think of some of the utter garbage he's chucked massive money at it's a huge concern for me. We have to get it right and Mourinho's transfer dealings equate to buying piles of shite with the odd diamond in there. OK for Chelsea and Utd but a colossal risk for us IMO.

 

[Metalhead]

Thing with Graham was that he was backed. He bought half the Wimbledon team and Rebrov.

The league cup win in 1999 was the 2nd trophy I saw us win in my lifetime. I remember not giving a shit. We were terrible that seaosn and clearly going nowhere. We beat a poor Leicester side in the final and outside a victory at Anfield didn't really beat anyone of note to win it.

I was made up when we won it - maybe I am too easily pleased but we hadn't won anything for 8 years and before that for 6 years. Agree about Graham - that was the point that Sugar made - he did give him funds.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

GG still remains one of a handful of managers to have won us a trophy though.

That is partly due to the fact that his brand of football generally sent the opposite into a coma, thus making it easier to beat them

A tactic used by every gooner manager pre Wenger

 

[allatsea]

Why has he won multiple trophies at every single club he's managed?

I see you haven't actually answered the question

 

[Metalhead]

That is partly due to the fact that his brand of football generally sent the opposite into a coma, thus making it easier to beat them

A tactic used by every gooner manager pre Wenger

1-0 to the Arsenal innit but saying that everyone was surprised when Ginola was kept as part of the side when he was manager as everyone expected him to be the first to go.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

For the record I’d like to see Simeone at the helm.

Clearly has something about him.

Has won trophies and without knowing a huge amount about Spanish football seems to have done a fantastic job at Athletico

No idea if he’d be available or open to our offer but that would be my choice if at all possible as our next permanent manager

 

[Gb160]

I see you haven't actually answered the question

He is what he is, he won shit and moved on, which I'd be fine with at Spurs...no-one expects him to build a legacy.
Now your turn...

 

[Gb160]

For the record I’d like to see Simeone at the helm.

Clearly has something about him.

Has won trophies and without knowing a huge amount about Spanish football seems to have done a fantastic job at Athletico

No idea if he’d be available or open to our offer but that would be my choice if at all possible as our next permanent manager

Id love him here but he's on about 35m Euros a year at Atletico...

 

[glacierSpurs]

This squad is made for Mourinho. Extremely experienced CBs, and he'll play a low block to get the best out of them.

One of the best CFs in world football entering his prime

Powerful midfield options.

Pace in Son and Lucas, flanking Kane for counter attacking football.

He's got the finished articles for most positions. He doesn't need hundreds of millions.

Two quality full backs being the most urgent area to address.

But Mourinho would indentify a strong spine immediately and play to their strengths.

And that's before we even consider his tactical ability and experience, and the instant respect he'd command.

He's a huge name in football and he'd win us trophies, I'm sure of if.

He's grown on me in his punditry role, become more likeable and the break from management could get his hunger back and we could benefit.

Seige mentality at Tottenham, love it.

Exactly. So many seem to think our squad need such a total rebuild it's unbelievable.

A whole new approach and set up, and more importantly a whole new role model and calibre, (Mourinho is a serial winner mind you for those who despise him cannot deny that) for the players to look up to will do the squad a great deal of good.

I don't personally prefer Mourinho, but you are making a strong case. And yes I agree, our assumed best 11 players could be a fit. If Mourinho, I'd expect Dier to be back in the starting line up.

Yes, Dier is almost like Matic, if not better. He will be reinstated back to one of Mourinho's midfield generals. Just imagine Dier and Ndombele together...

 

[GetSpurredOn]

We have taken 23 points in the last 21 Premier League matches. Hardly one sequence of poor results- 21 matches is more than half a season. Averaged across a whole season that equals between 41 and 42 points, or 15th position in 2018/19. We've lost 10 of those 21 matches and won only 6. That is an alarming run of form that has stretched now for roughly 9 months. During that time we've lost at home to West Ham and Newcastle, drawn with the bottom team of the league at home, been smashed by Brighton 3-0, been knocked out of the League cup by Colchester and been humiliated by Bayern Munich in one of our biggest home defeats of all time. That's much deeper than "one sequence of poor results".

Jesus, when you look at it laid out like that, it really does make for terrible reading. How has it gone on this long.... CL side??? Not even close to that level. We got lucky last season that nobody else outside of City and Liverpool was any better than us. That won’t go on forever.

On the Mourinho point, he may not be my first choice, but I wouldn’t be against his ruthless winning mentality, if he did indeed bring new ideas and assistants in with him as suggested, to bridge the gap between his past glories and staying currently relevant. I read an article about his use of 4231 system yesterday that someone posted on here as a comparison between Mourinho and Allegri, the way he sets that up is ideal with our current players, and just as much about tactics as it is effort. He demands work and discipline, but also structure, something we are currently missing.

The club needs a shakeup, top to bottom. First team require reinvigorating. Development pathway needs some serious attention, what do we have in the academy and how do we best create opportunities for them to develop to a level they can transition to first team, as this is something that has stalled under Poch with his insistence on keeping better players at the club but not actually playing them. Players will always develop quicker with minutes out on the park in competitive fixtures, not just PL2.

Get them out on loans at suitable teams, if they’re good enough they’ll excel and can progress to another level, until they’re ready to come back and be meaningful additions to the squad. Had Walker-Peters had 12-18 months of competitive football out on loan instead of being sat around our fringes, do you think we’d have a better version now to replace Aurier? This is something I lay at Poch’s door, as it’s been mentioned numerous times he likes to keep players close by, but if they’re not going to be used, where is the benefit?
Skipp will be in the same boat, Tanganga too by the looks of it. Roles on the otherhand has taken his chance out on loan, and will likely go our again to a higher club once this loan is done, and he’ll have clubs wanting him too. More clubs are interested, the better, as it means the club can select appropriate loans, rather than another Onomah to Sheffield Wed scenario.

As a senior player, arguably one of those currently unsettled, what would your stance be to seeing someone like Howe come in, would you think the club are serious, or just ‘here we go again, another 3-5 year project’. How many of them would write off another 3-5 years? Contrast that with Mourinho or Allegri being unveiled, do you then think ‘project’ or proven winner?

 

[skaz04nik]

Allegri would be fantastic, huge advantage he's tactical geek as well as a new guy to PL

With Jose I have only 3 issues:
- He's #1 candidate for RM
- Klopp, Pep, Rodgers, Emery et al know him and his style back and forth
- He sometimes shows complete blindness. How on earth could you not only miss Salah and De Bryune and Lukaku but let them go?? Especially Kevin

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Allegri would be fantastic, huge advantage he's tactical geek as well as a new guy to PL

With Jose I have only 3 issues:
- He's #1 candidate for RM
- Klopp, Pep, Rodgers, Emery et al know him and his style back and forth
- He sometimes shows complete blindness. How on earth could you not only miss Salah and De Bryune and Lukaku but let them go?? Especially Kevin

In his defence, Du Bryune is ginger, Lukaku holds elite loyalty cards for McDonalds, Burger King and Wimpy, while Salah goes down easier than a prostitute in Plymouth

 

[EastLondonYid]

I think you can show a person respect without giving him a job.

If Poch has lost the dressing room and isn't the right man to take us forward then we have to fire him. We can do so in a respectful way.

Or how about get rid of the players he has lost, the players who wanted to leave and Levy ,for whatever reason, failed to move on .

Give him the chance to rebuild.

Have you considered that option?

Then if he still fails sack him....that would be more respectful don't you think?

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Agree. I see the benefits to Mourinho, and wouldn’t be against it, but Allegri for me. If we don’t, I think Utd will, and soon.
Proven winner who has decided to step back on his own terms from arguably one of the biggest clubs in the world. Taken time to refresh and take a new challenge. That shows hunger to test himself, how easy would it have been to just stay and keep winning Serie A?
Very current with his coaching and tactics, but also proven to be flexible. Went from a fairly rigid 352 at Juve, through tactical evolution to fluid 433/4231/4312, utilising what he had at his disposal rather than crowbar players out of position into his previous formation.