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[Lumiere]

Between 63 and 66 Bill Nick's great double winning side stagnated and aged, slumping from the top 3 to 8th in 3 seasons. It was clearly the end of an era.

Did we decide to get rid of a manager who'd taken us as far as he could?

No. He built a new team with the likes of Mullery, Venables and Jennings, and we finished 3rd and won the FA Cup.

Again, when that team finished 11th in 70, he built another team with Perryman and Covers, and we won another FA cup and a UEFA cup.

The point being, and it's one I've made many times in the last few weeks, that when a squad has reached the end of its lifecycle, as ours has, you don't just sack the most progressive manager this club has had since Burkinshaw. You let a man who has proven himself able to build excellent teams, and take them all the way to the very top of the game, the chance to do it again.

Yeah, if the man himself can't be arsed, and wants to move then, then fair enough. I'll wish him the best, and say thanks for wholesale sorting this club out.

So how bad does it need to get? Short of relegation, I'll back the man and anyone else if they want to be here and give it the bollocks. And now...

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The big difference is that Nicholson consistently won trophies year after year even when we were slumping. We have had some high finishes under Pochettino but whenever we have come close to that end goal, the trophy, we have always fallen short.

I want to see this side win trophies a hell of a lot more than finishing in the top 4, and the fact is we have never looked further away from doing that right now.

 

[midoNdefoe]

The big difference is though is that Nicholson consistently won trophies year after year even when we were slumping. We have had some high finishes under Pochettino but whenever we have come close to that end goal, the trophy, we have fallen short.

I want to see this side win trophies a hell of a lot more than finishing in the top 4, and the fact is we have never looked further away from doing that right now.

Not a fact!

 

[Hakkz]

Between 63 and 66 Bill Nick's great double winning side stagnated and aged, slumping from the top 3 to 8th in 3 seasons. It was clearly the end of an era.

Did we decide to get rid of a manager who'd taken us as far as he could?

No. He built a new team with the likes of Mullery, Venables and Jennings, and we finished 3rd and won the FA Cup.

Again, when that team finished 11th in 70, he built another team with Perryman and Covers, and we won another FA cup and a UEFA cup.

The point being, and it's one I've made many times in the last few weeks, that when a squad has reached the end of its lifecycle, as ours has, you don't just sack the most progressive manager this club has had since Burkinshaw. You let a man who has proven himself able to build excellent teams, and take them all the way to the very top of the game, the chance to do it again.

Yeah, if the man himself can't be arsed, and wants to move then, then fair enough. I'll wish him the best, and say thanks for wholesale sorting this club out.

So how bad does it need to get? Short of relegation, I'll back the man and anyone else if they want to be here and give it the bollocks. And now...

So he had trophies to show for it, making it a lot easier for the people in charge because he was a proven winner?

Even then, I think it's hard to compare managers in different eras.

 

[dagraham]

Sean Dyche?! Jesus Christ. And people are complaining about Mourinho’s football.

Dyche’s team play the worst football I’ve seen since the old Wimbledon.

 

[fletch82]

Eriksen toby Jan victor maybe rose need to go and also some of the not up to the job players ( I won't name them as to each there own )before we sack the manager.

They are the ones not putting in a shift for the manager they are the ones letting us down.
Allegri moaninhio Bob the feckin builder its irrelevant because all the time they are here still the same problem is still here.

Would you find it acceptable to get the sack because members of your team cant be arsed.
Bite the bullet get rid of the useless want away twats and let poch rebuild.

We will not get anyone better who will come in and get the instant results you poch outers want a new manager will still have to rebuild with mot 1 guarantee.

I'm in the poch stays and gets a chance to sort this mess out gang also

 

[alfie103]

I think Levy and Poch need to have sit down and discuss if Poch wants to carry on.

If not, I would like the club to go for Ancelotti or, if we can't get him, Mourinho.

 

[VancouverSpur]

So many players who are considered great, come in from abroad and struggle initially and often permanently in the PL. Same thing for managers so Ancelotti is a good call as he has succeeded here. Allegri not proven in the PL but is an intriguing proposition.

If Mourinho wasn't such a poisonous **** he would be perfect but just couldn't get my head round him being our manager. The Spanish Waiter could do well but $$$ talks for him so not sure it will happen. Rodgers doing well at Leicester so cant see him leaving.

If I had to make a call I would say Howe is a Levy type of appointment if not mine.

 

[punky]

If our aim is to be part of Europe's elite then we need a manager who doesn't just gets the best out of not a lot the club needs to set it's sights higher.

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Between 63 and 66 Bill Nick's great double winning side stagnated and aged, slumping from the top 3 to 8th in 3 seasons. It was clearly the end of an era.

Did we decide to get rid of a manager who'd taken us as far as he could?

No. He built a new team with the likes of Mullery, Venables and Jennings, and we finished 3rd and won the FA Cup.

Again, when that team finished 11th in 70, he built another team with Perryman and Covers, and we won another FA cup and a UEFA cup.

The point being, and it's one I've made many times in the last few weeks, that when a squad has reached the end of its lifecycle, as ours has, you don't just sack the most progressive manager this club has had since Burkinshaw. You let a man who has proven himself able to build excellent teams, and take them all the way to the very top of the game, the chance to do it again.

Yeah, if the man himself can't be arsed, and wants to move then, then fair enough. I'll wish him the best, and say thanks for wholesale sorting this club out.

So how bad does it need to get? Short of relegation, I'll back the man and anyone else if they want to be here and give it the bollocks. And now...

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Not sure it's the best analogy but you don't wait for your house to fall down in disrepair before you rebuild. You constantly adjust as you go. Also in this day and age, I don't think the club can afford to wait for our team to fall apart before trying to rebuild. It's not as simple as it was back then.

We've been falling apart since Jan. Only a great early season performance saved us last year. The fact he has done nothing to recognise and improve things all year, especially in the summer which would have been the ideal time to stop the rot. If he couldn't fix things this summer, who says he will be able to fix it next summer once we're out of the Champions League?

You could argue that Levy didn't spend in our two transfer-free windows but by a lot of accounts, Poch didn't want anyone or couldn't choose. The ones he did, like Grealish, didn't want to come. It's poor management. The players we currently have are significantly underperforming. He should be have the basic man management skills to give them the kick up arse when they deserve it. I moan about this a lot, but he hides during games. Baily and Nicholson certainly didn't.

If it was a bad start to the season, fine give Poch the time he has earnt. The fact that he seems either unable to see the issues or fix them to me says it's really only going to get worse from here.

 

[Metalhead]

I guess it is the worry that things are unravelling faster than Poch can get a handle on it that is a deep concern.

 

[Cochise]

Well, UTD shit the bed again so if we are planning on pursuing Allegri, we may want to do so sooner rather than later.

 

[kcmei]

Chance to get Guardiola!!!!

 

[piedpiper]

I think Levy and Poch need to have sit down and discuss if Poch wants to carry on.

If not, I would like the club to go for Ancelotti or, if we can't get him, Mourinho.e

Ancelotti everyday. Even if it means we have a "caretaker" for the rest of the season. Mourinho i found just so toxuc.

 

[midoNdefoe]

How can people be calling for Jose?!?

He’s washed up AND Chelsea....
He has copped so much shit in here for how bad he has become and now all of a sudden people think a) he’d come here, and b) he’d be anything other than crushingly shit for us and the progress we’ve made...

 

[arunspurs]

How can people be calling for Jose?!?

He’s washed up AND Chelsea....
He has copped so much shit in here for how bad he has become and now all of a sudden people think a) he’d come here, and b) he’d be anything other than crushingly shit for us and the progress we’ve made...

Lets just go by his managerial history - Won 3 cups (inc Community shield) & a 2nd place finish in 2.5 years at United. United are still carrying deadwoods since Fergie days in their squad now. So, its not all his making. He is a winner. I will happily take those 3 cups now, if it would mean everything will apart in 3rd season.

And you cant say he wont come & say he will be shit in same sentence. Its laughable. If he is too good for us, then he is not shit.

He is out of job currently and we have a far far far better squad than United or his last season at Chelsea.Even at Chelsea , he did not have a forward option like we have in Kane, Son,Lucas, Dele, Eriksen (in his better days) & Lo Celso. Nor he had a CB partnership like Jan, Toby or a LB like Rose or a midfield option of Ndombele, Sissoko, Winks.

Give him the current squad that we have now - he will win couple of cups. I love Poch but team isnt responding to him anymore. Often in semis & finals, Poch has made selection & tactical mistakes. IMO, in the same situation, Mourinho would have made sure team is correctly setup for those big big games and win.

 

[McFlash]

This forum has become toxic.... #PochIn

Don't be daft.
This is a fan forum, for people to discuss the club they love.
Just because fans are showing concern over the current situation at the club, doesn't make this place toxic.
I've not noticed any vitriolic craziness, just people sharing opinions and discussing possible options or solutions.

 

[Gb160]

How can people be calling for Jose?!?

He’s washed up AND Chelsea....
He has copped so much shit in here for how bad he has become and now all of a sudden people think a) he’d come here, and b) he’d be anything other than crushingly shit for us and the progress we’ve made...

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

I’d take Jose solely down to curiosity. But I think it would be a mistake.

We simply don’t have the players to play his football. It’s why I’d laugh if Utd took Allegri. They’ve been steadily building away from Jose and looking to players who build, press and play ‘attractive’ football. (Maguire for example).

They’d have to start again with Allegri.

Mind so would we.

 

[midoNdefoe]

And you cant say he wont come & say he will be shit in same sentence. Its laughable. If he is too good for us, then he is not shit.

I can!
I don’t think he’d come to us due to his Chelsea connection and in the same way that Poch has suddenly become a terrible manager (apparently), mourinho was widely accepted to have become a ‘dinosaur’ with his outdated methods and ‘defence first’ game plan.
So if you think Mourinho is still a great manager, why can you not accept that Poch might still be...?
In my opinion we have a club crisis at the moment which just changing manager is not going to solve and if anything, is going to make things a lot worse for a while...

 

[DogsOfWar]

I'm very much in the experienced manager camp, both in terms of big clubs and the Prem so I'd be looking at an Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho type appointment.

I think we need someone to steady the ship, who is used to managing egos, and will command respect from the off.

 

[arunspurs]

I can!
I don’t think he’d come to us due to his Chelsea connection and in the same way that Poch has suddenly become a terrible manager (apparently), mourinho was widely accepted to have become a ‘dinosaur’ with his outdated methods and ‘defence first’ game plan.
So if you think Mourinho is still a great manager, why can you not accept that Poch might still be...?
In my opinion we have a club crisis at the moment which just changing manager is not going to solve and if anything, is going to make things a lot worse for a while...

If Jose can manage United after Chelsea(after years of title rivalries), theres no reason why he won't/can't manage Spurs. He is not a fan/supporter of any of these clubs.

If you say it is 'widely accepted' he is a dinosaur, it is also 'widely accepted & factual' that he wins at every club.

Poch has had SIX years at helm. I am ok to give him another 6, if team is playing for him. But lets be honest. Our players say they are playing for him , yet we concede 21 goals in 10 games this season & are having relegation form since feb in league.