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Japhet

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Seeing as we're working our way down the list (again), I don't think Postecoglou is a bad shout. Brighton picked up DeZerbi from Shaktar but wanted Postecoglou, and DeZerbi has torn it up this year. Mate of mine is a Rangers fan and begrudgingly admits that Postecoglou has been excellent at Celtic, playing great football and all the players love him. As it seems pretty obvious Levy has shot us in both feet with Nagelsmann and Slot, I don't really see any other exciting options on the radar, especially since Gallardo isn't even mentioned, inexplicably.
 

Bobbins

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The idea that we are currently better than Ange is hilarious. The guy clearly motivates and gets a team playing. At this point we should be happy he is even considering it
This is what Levy has done to parts of the fanbase. Gaslit people into thinking so little of themselves and the club.
 
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JUSTINSIGNAL

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I also don't think Potter is suddenly a bad coach.

This is thing, before we appointed Nuno there was a big swell of support for Potter. Now just because he walked into a hiding to nothing at Chelsea he is being written off.

We write off managers and players too quickly in this country. When in fact we should be seeing their bad experiences as a sign of growth and development. Potter might now have come out of the Chelsea debacle with a determination to show what he is about. I think he is decent option for us.
 

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What was the win percentage difference? I tried to find it earlier out of curiosity.
Don’t know percentages, but he’s won trophies everywhere he’s been, both domestic and international. Australia’s only trophy was won under him, and Asia is an increasingly competitive environment and can’t be dismissed as irrelevant.

Dominated in Scotland with Asian players that no one else would’ve considered, and is likely to complete a treble in a manner that has transformed the view of football in Scotland.

He has an uncompromising view on how the game should be played and wins trophies doing it.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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This is thing, before we appointed Nuno there was a big swell of support for Potter. Now just because he walked into a hiding to nothing at Chelsea he is being written off.

We write off managers and players too quickly in this country. When in fact we should be seeing their bad experiences as a sign of growth and development. Potter might now have come out of the Chelsea debacle with a determination to show what he is about. I think he is decent option for us.
That would mean 3 of our last 4 managers would be Chelsea rejects.

Fuck that.
 

Albertbarich

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This is thing, before we appointed Nuno there was a big swell of support for Potter. Now just because he walked into a hiding to nothing at Chelsea he is being written off.

We write off managers and players too quickly in this country. When in fact we should be seeing their bad experiences as a sign of growth and development. Potter might now have come out of the Chelsea debacle with a determination to show what he is about. I think he is decent option for us.
He uses a back three or four, knows the league, players like him, improves players, wants his team to have the ball and his weakness is bad chance completion, well we have Harry kane for that.

He should be looked at if Nagelsmann won't come.
 

Albertbarich

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Don’t know percentages, but he’s won trophies everywhere he’s been, both domestic and international. Australia’s only trophy was won under him, and Asia is an increasingly competitive environment and can’t be dismissed as irrelevant.

Dominated in Scotland with Asian players that no one else would’ve considered, and is likely to complete a treble in a manner that has transformed the view of football in Scotland.

He has an uncompromising view on how the game should be played and wins trophies doing it.
I meant between Brighton managers mate.

I like Ange too.
 

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This is thing, before we appointed Nuno there was a big swell of support for Potter. Now just because he walked into a hiding to nothing at Chelsea he is being written off.

We write off managers and players too quickly in this country. When in fact we should be seeing their bad experiences as a sign of growth and development. Potter might now have come out of the Chelsea debacle with a determination to show what he is about. I think he is decent option for us.
I wouldn’t hate Potter in a vacuum but given our history with ex-Chelsea managers it would be horrible optically

I also wouldn’t discount just how awful they were under him, completely inept up front, unable to score goals, bereft of excitement.

I suspect the fans would turn on him very quickly and the heat would be very hot. It makes sense in a vacuum of football managing quality but in the real world, I think there’s a very big risk there.
 

mil1lion

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Ange could be another Redknapp who will get the players to play with more freedom. He's not a bad option but obviously a big risk. I think the main concern with him is his age. I don't think his background would matter as much if he was 10 years younger. With Slot it just felt like the next step in his development as a young manager. However who really saw Redknapp do so well having never managed a top club? Maybe this team just needs a morale boost because they have a weak mentality so need a man manager to lift them. We're underdogs so an underdog manager makes sense.
 

easley91

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This is thing, before we appointed Nuno there was a big swell of support for Potter. Now just because he walked into a hiding to nothing at Chelsea he is being written off.

We write off managers and players too quickly in this country. When in fact we should be seeing their bad experiences as a sign of growth and development. Potter might now have come out of the Chelsea debacle with a determination to show what he is about. I think he is decent option for us.
Potter is better suited to us than he was Chelsea. Very few would have succeeded this season there with all the upheaval and the number of players brought in. If it was to be Potter, I wouldn't be unhappy as I feel he'd do a good job here. He set Brighton up nicely for De Zerbi to take the reigns (remains to be seen how well he will do next season with Europe as well).
 

tommo84

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I’m very down about all things THFC at the moment, but having voted for Postecoglou in the original poll I feel the need to stick up for him/make the case for him.

He’s not just improved Celtic but totally turned them around, and they’re far from his first job. He’s very talented coach and communicator who wants attacking front foot football. Also - and this is his possibly unique to Big Ange among all the coaches (maybe) available to us, his demeanour and nature of his communication breed a certain siege mentality throughout a club. We’ve never had that even though everyone hates us and we’re football’s favourite punchline. Postecoglou is the type of coach who will get players to absorb that and be fuelled by it.

I’m still massively pissed off with the club and cannot begin to feel optimistic about Spurs yet, but Ange Postecoglou is at least a manager I could believe in and a personality who could perhaps take our current dysfunction and use it to bring fans and players together.

Unfortunately you can bet your bottom dollar that Levy will be put off by those qualities and we’ll end up with someone a rung below.
 

Tucker

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I see people posting clips on Ange and eventually people will convince themselves this is a legitimate option.

I'm not being gaslit by this club. Rubbish options
People are gaslighting themselves. It’s a shit situation and we all want to have a little hope that things will turn out ok. It was the same last time with people convincing themselves Gerrard was a great choice because he’d done such a bang up job at Rangers shooting all those barrel fish. It’s the same now.

We are down to the dregs.

Postecoglu might be an ok coach, he might even be a great guy, but let’s not pretend he’s not a massive gamble, or that he’s anywhere near a top choice.

I said yesterday that I’d be giving the club the benefit of the doubt when there looked to be a plan to get Slot and move to a new style of football, with a proper structure in place. It’s pretty clear we were never really 100% serious about him though.

I think they fell in love with the idea of getting Slot in cheaply, and shat themselves when they saw the real price of that particular choice. Now they could be right, it could be too much of a gamble to pay that for someone who’s not managed outside Holland, but really it looks to me like they put all their eggs in this basket, and are now completely rudderless and lost as to what to do next.

The simplest thing in the world when they sacked Conte was to get Poch back in, make good whatever went wrong and give him the keys to the rebuild. I don’t blame them for wanting to go in a fresh direction at all, but they should have least have had a direction. When they had him there available and keen, and decided to go elsewhere they simply had to get it right.

If they’d got JN or Slot then it would have shown a trajectory we could all get behind. Now they’re just chucking names out and hoping something sticks.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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This is thing, before we appointed Nuno there was a big swell of support for Potter. Now just because he walked into a hiding to nothing at Chelsea he is being written off.

We write off managers and players too quickly in this country. When in fact we should be seeing their bad experiences as a sign of growth and development. Potter might now have come out of the Chelsea debacle with a determination to show what he is about. I think he is decent option for us.
And in theory kane should finish all the tons of chances his teams create #xGFC 🤣

I actually don’t think Potter would be a good idea mostly because I really don’t want yet another ex Chelsea hire and also I think his personality is quite dull and boring and he won’t uplift the club but I agree with you that as a coach he might have grown from the Chelsea experience and we shouldn’t write coaches / players off without looking at the whole picture.
 

St José Dominguez

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I don’t understand people’s issue with Ange’s age. Do fans think the next manager is going to be here for 20 years or something? It’s incredibly unlikely statistically that the next manager will even still be here in 5 years.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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People are gaslighting themselves. It’s a shit situation and we all want to have a little hope that things will turn out ok. It was the same last time with people convincing themselves Gerrard was a great choice because he’d done such a bang up job at Rangers shooting all those barrel fish. It’s the same now.

We are down to the dregs.

Postecoglu might be an ok coach, he might even be a great guy, but let’s not pretend he’s not a massive gamble, or that he’s anywhere near a top choice.

I said yesterday that I’d be giving the club the benefit of the doubt when there looked to be a plan to get Slot and move to a new style of football, with a proper structure in place. It’s pretty clear we were never really 100% serious about him though.

I think they fell in love with the idea of getting Slot in cheaply, and shat themselves when they saw the real price of that particular choice. Now they could be right, it could be too much of a gamble to pay that for someone who’s not managed outside Holland, but really it looks to me like they put all their eggs in this basket, and are now completely rudderless and lost as to what to do next.

The simplest thing in the world when they sacked Conte was to get Poch back in, make good whatever went wrong and give him the keys to the rebuild. I don’t blame them for wanting to go in a fresh direction at all, but they should have least have had a direction. When they had him there available and keen, and decided to go elsewhere they simply had to get it right.

If they’d got JN or Slot then it would have shown a trajectory we could all get behind. Now they’re just chucking names out and hoping something sticks.
Agree with all of this such a good post.

Only thing is I’d not compare big ange to Gerrard, different styles of play and experience and personalities.
 
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