Next Manager Watch

[Trix]

I don't think Levy actually has a fan club. There are just some who aren't as rabidly Levy Out as others. He seems to be doing a pretty good job driving a lot of them to the other side of the fence though.

What I would say to that is most of us aren't "Levy out" as in get completely out of the club. There is a section of those that are for sure but I'd say a lot of us just want him completely away from the football decisions. Everything else I'm fine with. Even if he were to say, right the budget this window is only £20mil plus what you raise from sales I'd be fine with it, as long as someone qualified to do so was spending it. All I want him to do as far as the team is concerned is set the budget and sign the cheques.

 

[Hakkz]

Of course invest your motions in supporting the team. But all the speculation and noise around it, nah. Half of it is just BS and I really don't see the point in getting so wound up by stuff that is either completely made up or unlikely to actually happen.

Completely agree with that part. However, we have gotten to a stage where it is very difficult to get any positive emotion out of the football played by our team.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

What I would say to that is most of us aren't "Levy out" as in get completely out of the club. There is a section of those that are for sure but I'd say a lot of us just want him completely away from the football decisions. Everything else I'm fine with. Even if he were to say, right the budget this window is only £20mil plus what you raise from sales I'd be fine with it, as long as someone qualified to do so was spending it.

All due respect can we not put these posts in the Levy Outsting thread instead otherwise what is the point in having this Next Manager Thread open?

 

[easley91]

Completely agree with that part. However, we have gotten to a stage where it is very difficult to get any positive emotion out of the football played by our team.

I was feeling pretty positive with the second halves at Anfield and v United, the games v Forest and Chelsea, home game v City amongst others. I felt positive emotion when Kane become our all time record scorer.

The emotion is down to the person as well as the club.

 

[Tucker]

How effective are contracts regarding things like transfer budgets and wages anyway? Seems like there are too many moving parts. If our first 10 choices for CB reject us do we still have to be willing to pay full whack and top wages for our 11th choice just to fulfill the obligations of the contract?

I was thinking the same thing. You can’t realistically guarantee what a transfer spend will be, yo7 don’t know who is going to want to come, you don’t know which clubs are going to sell or at what price. Yes you can say “you will have £x to spend on the summer, and £y to spend on the winter.” But as far as being written in a contract how does either party go about proving that they did or didn’t have the budget they were promised? And that’s before you get into all sorts of things like spreading the payments over a contract, or performance related bonuses.

Just seems unrealistic to me.

 

[yido_number1]

What I would say to that is most of us aren't "Levy out" as in get completely out of the club. There is a section of those that are for sure but I'd say a lot of us just want him completely away from the football decisions. Everything else I'm fine with. Even if he were to say, right the budget this window is only £20mil plus what you raise from sales I'd be fine with it, as long as someone qualified to do so was spending it. All I want him to be as far as the team is concerned is sign the cheques.

I've been pretty busy post lunch so haven't seen too much of the nagelsmann stuff.

I gather he's off the card snow which is a massive shame.

Too build on what you said above I'd agree with the sentiment that if he could let someone else run the football side and keeps his hands out the cookie jar I'd have no problem. Fact is we all know he's an interfering prick and have had that confirmed in managers books and on talk sport by former employees.

For me that is the reason I want him gone and also the fact that his only ambition is the champions league qualification.

We need regalvanising and a massive cultural change.

 

[Hotspur33]

Good on him. I'd be requesting the same, and frankly I'm sure he knows that he's the clear top candidate for the role so has the right to flex his muscles a bit.

Depends on what the demands are. If it’s a case of ‘I want £180M every summer” that is something that can be budgeted. If it’s a case of “I want you to match the highest spenders” then that is something entirely different.

 

[mil1lion]

They've won the fa cup under arteta

That was very early on though. They were consistently finishing below us in the table and never getting to the CL before this season. I just wouldn't put that as a plus over what we had with Poch given we had multiple top 4 finishes in the same time Arteta has been there. Getting to a CL final was bigger than that. The difference really is they have been backing him every summer where Poch largely inherited his squad and didn't get many additions over time.

 

[Trix]

I've been pretty busy post lunch so haven't seen too much of the nagelsmann stuff.

I gather he's off the card snow which is a massive shame.

Too build on what you said above I'd agree with the sentiment that if he could let someone else run the football side and keeps his hands out the cookie jar I'd have no problem. Fact is we all know he's an interfering prick and have had that confirmed in managers books and on talk sport by former employees.

For me that is the reason I want him gone and also the fact that his only ambition is the champions league qualification.

We need regalvanising and a massive cultural change.

Not sure if it's completely dead tbh. I think it's more the case of we've had extensive talks with him then he's told us what he requires and we've decided to start throwing numerous random alternatives back into the hat, instead of trying to square things up with him. It's basically a carbon copy of what happened post Jose.

 

[Trix]

Depends on what the demands are. If it’s a case of ‘I want £180M every summer” that is something that can be budgeted. If it’s a case of “I want you to match the highest spenders” then that is something entirely different.

Fwiu it's more down to who has situational control than numbers.

 

[Misfit]

Ali Z said:
On Nags I hear the hold up/delay is Nags wanting contractual assurances on Transfer budget and wages, maybe why so much other noise.

In writing is the only way with DL. Smart if true.

 

[Scot-Spur]

I think it's more down to who has situational control than numbers.

I think this is it, we have spent money. We just constantly piss it away with chopping and changing. If he would just step back and give someone a set budget that knew what they were doing.

 

[Hotspur33]

Also been thinking about this.

Poch was a done deal to Chelsea last week, gone a bit quiet this week.

maybe things going on behind the scenes, who knows.

(Poch will probably sign for Chelsea tomorrow now )

Poch would deffo be the get out of jail free card, and I’d be happy to have him back. Also it would be seen as getting one over on them.
However all the talk sounds as if Poch to Chelsea in an absolute certainty.
And I think Poch would have huge reservations now after being ignored for so long and if he has to work with the squad we have.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Fwiu it's more down to who has situational control than numbers.

I would imagine that might be quite a tricky thing to work into a contract especially when we don't currently have a DoF. I can't help but feel a DoF is a key ingredient that's currently missing. Of course I say that but then it could just be one more person for Levy to ignore.

 

[Hotspur33]

What I would say to that is most of us aren't "Levy out" as in get completely out of the club. There is a section of those that are for sure but I'd say a lot of us just want him completely away from the football decisions. Everything else I'm fine with. Even if he were to say, right the budget this window is only £20mil plus what you raise from sales I'd be fine with it, as long as someone qualified to do so was spending it. All I want him to be as far as the team is concerned is sign the cheques.

That is a fair view. Although I think he has rattled so many supporters that if he did step aside from all football matters, then he would be blamed anyway for hiring the people making the mistakes.

 

[Gspurs11]

I wouldn’t be surprised if we appoint a DOF out of the blue, similar to what we did with Munn. Leaked with Ornstein and officially confirmed with an hour or so

 

[JonnyBGood]

JN asking for guarantees is giving me, I'm bigger than the club vibes.

Although I am on the JN train, I am open to alternatives who are more flexible and will give their all whatever the circumstances.

 

[beats1]

The problem with Levy Out, is if you ask 50 people why they want levy out they would give a different reason

 

[For the love of Spurs]

JN asking for guarantees is giving me, I'm bigger than the club vibes.

Although I am on the JN train, I am open to alternatives who are more flexible and will give their all whatever the circumstances.

perhaps managers just know our club will screw them over if they are not careful. Naglesmann is clearly ambitious and probably just wants to know that we are.

 

[Tucker]

The problem with Levy Out, is if you ask 50 people why they want levy out they would give a different reason

The main problem with it right now is that it has its own thread, but people are determined to pollute every other thread with it.