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[King of the Lane]

Porro has played as a RB in a back 4 for Spain. Im sure he could adapt and play in one for us too.

 

[carpediem991]

Wing backs also can play as a full back. Like people said Romero can not play in a back 4, suddenly he ended up being a World champion in that position. It is about to give the full backs still license to attack. Means one or two CM need special tasks to fill the gaps the full backs leave behind. Skipp could shift behind the attacking full back for cover.

Would like to see something like this soon:

New GK - Porro, Romero, New CB, Udogie - Skipp, Bentancur - Kulusevski, Creative Playmaker, Richarlison/ Son - Kane

 

[14/04/91]

Wing backs also can play as a full back. Like people said Romero can not play in a back 4, suddenly he ended up being a World champion in that position. It is about to give the full backs still license to attack. Means one or two CM need special tasks to fill the gaps the full backs leave behind. Skipp could shift behind the attacking full back for cover.

Would like to see something like this soon:

New GK - Porro, Romero, New CB, Udogie - Skipp, Bentancur - Kulusevski, Creative Playmaker, Richarlison/ Son - Kane

Spot on. Bissouma is more than capable of playing the holding midfield role too.
Part of me hopes we switch to this formation should Conte before Everton, although with our injuries and lack of confidence in Dier or Lenglet in a back 4, I'm not sure it will happen.

 

[Thenewcat]

If your DM does their role right then it's absolutely possible. Dembele was excellent at getting across and covering Rose or Walker. Fernandinho was excellent at it for man city. You don't need 3 CBs, you can be stronger with 2CBs and a proper DM to break up attacks . This allows full backs to get up the pitch and support.

It was the much maligned Dier rather than Dembele that really made that work. He dropped into the centre allowing Toby and Jan to drift across

 

[DiVaio]

 

[PeeLee]

The huge question with Poch is 'does he have the ability to adapt?' I remember when the clock was winding down on him I said 'I don't want him to go but I do want him to change'. Everything had become stale, and much like Conte, he was doing the same stuff repeatedly with the same results. I'd like a coach who can spot problems and address them.

Presumably Poch has gone over in his mind how well or badly he handled being exhausted, fed up or indecisive about his last months at Tottenham, because he seems a thoughtful, reflective type as well as being positive in his outlook. At Liverpool, Klopp now is a bit tired, and faces a rebuild and presumably his personal qualities will have persuaded that club's owners that he can get to the end of this season and be back ready in time for the next season.

I'm sure other high quality managers and coaches in Tottenham's and other club' histories, got to rebuild (more so in the days before football went short-termist and daft) and I think that a crucial mistake was made in campaigning against Poch and replacing him with, in effect, the wrong sort of 'he's a winner'-type thinking by those who made that decision. Going looking for 'the new Poch' seems like seeking a notional copy of the original rather than the wiser middle aged original.

 

[Impspur1]

If we want a new manager bounce to finish the season strong then Tuchel is the obvious choice.

In an ideal world, we would give him a short-term deal until the end of the season and then revaluate in the summer.

It would never happen though.

Yeah I’m sure after Conte DL would love another easy going manager to work with

 

[parj]

The huge question with Poch is 'does he have the ability to adapt?' I remember when the clock was winding down on him I said 'I don't want him to go but I do want him to change'. Everything had become stale, and much like Conte, he was doing the same stuff repeatedly with the same results. I'd like a coach who can spot problems and address them.

I think Poch does have the ability to adapt. He has played 4 and 5 at the back, and the whole diamond formation fiasco came from trying to find away to beat top teams and adapt to aging and injury prone team

 

[chrisd2k]

Exactly, I think it’s not in any way going to affect their development or ability. If anything they would be the ideal players for a lot 4 at the back managers. Personally i think looking at 3 at the back managers just because of those would be naive.

Just to take Gallardo as an example. I have posted a link to this article before and it has been discussed in detail in this thread but just specifically re full backs and taking into consideration he would usually favour a 433…

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Think it's have a stroke seeing or players laid out like that on the pitch.

 

[Guntz]

Glasner would be a very underwhelming appointment considering some of the options out there.

 

[chrisd2k]

I think Poch does have the ability to adapt. He has played 4 and 5 at the back, and the whole diamond formation fiasco came from trying to find away to beat top teams and adapt to aging and injury prone team

And being too stubborn to change when it wasn't working

 

[PeeLee]

You make a powerful case, but if he were to be appointed and fail there would be lots of posters on SC stating why it was obvious he would never be a success at Tottenham (whether the reasons are true or not);

+No Prem Experience
+Our Academy set up is not as good as Sporting's so his reliance on the youngsters was never going to work
+He has never managed big egos
+He wasn't backed
etc, etc, etc

Quite right. The list of supposed positives was just that. Whatever happened to considering the pros and cons?

 

[Impspur1]

Glasner would be a very underwhelming appointment considering some of the options out there.

I’m personally not fussed about a shiny trendy manager, I want one that will work well with a decent squad and play good football and maybe win the odd trophy along the way.

 

[parj]

And being too stubborn to change when it wasn't working

Yea he was, but there were times he didn't really have any other options. Don't forget at one point Sissoko was an attacking option!!!

 

[Japhet]

Presumably Poch has gone over in his mind how well or badly he handled being exhausted, fed up or indecisive about his last months at Tottenham, because he seems a thoughtful, reflective type as well as being positive in his outlook. At Liverpool, Klopp now is a bit tired, and faces a rebuild and presumably his personal qualities will have persuaded that club's owners that he can get to the end of this season and be back ready in time for the next season.

I'm sure other high quality managers and coaches in Tottenham's and other club' histories, got to rebuild (more so in the days before football went short-termist and daft) and I think that a crucial mistake was made in campaigning against Poch and replacing him with, in effect, the wrong sort of 'he's a winner'-type thinking by those who made that decision. Going looking for 'the new Poch' seems like seeking a notional copy of the original rather than the wiser middle aged original.

I'd be quite staggered if he didn't learn some very valuable lessons from those last few months. I'm sure he got really pissed off at lack of investment and threw his toys out of the pram when he'd only accept DeJong who was hell bent on Barca. He'll also have learned that the grass isn't always greener in his stint at PSG. The one thing I'd really insist on though is that he'd have to work with a DoF and not have the full control he demanded before. He made some awful transfer picks.

 

[carpediem991]

Glasner would be a very underwhelming appointment considering some of the options out there.

I think Glasner is pretty decent.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Glasner would be a very underwhelming appointment considering some of the options out there.

Don't believe everything you read

 

[H-SF]

Glasner would be a very underwhelming appointment considering some of the options out there.

Agree. Glasner is a good coach but Frankfurt are pretty uninspiring and I'm not convinced he'd bring the type of football we all want.

 

[jolsnogross]

Love Poch, but he'd ruin that legacy by coming back.

This is just superstition talking as far as I can tell. An extension of "never go back" without any explanation as to why some think its destined to fail. He's a bloody good manager who did great work here. Historical high points. CL final. Other finals and semis. If his method drove that, why wouldn't it do so again. And his method isn't just a rigid formation or tactic either.

And besides, what is a "legacy" worth anyway? Isn't it just a comfort blanket for fans. Fuck it. If theres someone better, get him in. If not, bring him back (if he'll come).

 

[only1waddle]

He has an account on here doesn't he?

Might be Rebrab.... barbeR