New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Led's Zeppelin]

I don't know about preferred option maybe original option as they didn't own any of the property around the ground but they set about buying them up quietly in the early years of the century.

Expanding The Lane was considered by Sugar but don't think any of those plans were really viable. New stadium was first considered 2007 and plans for NPD were first announced 2008 , Levy kept other options open but think almost everyone will agree that what we have now was the right thing to do, same walk to the ground , same pubs , same shops , same feeling of coming home after Wembley.

Northumberland Development Project - Wikipedia

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I remember a consultation meeting with architects, Levy and one or two other Spurs execs, before NPD existed, when the plan was the redevelopment of WHL, concentrating on rebuilding the West Stand and improving the other three stands.

I believe it was during that period and as a result of their findings that the limitations imposed by not owning the surrounding land and properties became clear, in financial terms.

The significant point isn’t so much what their preferred option was, because that changed a number of times with circumstances, but the fact that it quickly became obvious to Levy & Co ( Sugar had no idea really) that redeveloping WHL, which many fans still wish had happened, was simply not a viable plan.

 

[easley91]

It’s strange to think, but in a few years time there will be adult Spurs fans who can’t even remember the old White Hart Lane.

Someone who was six when we left White Hart Lane will only have vague memories of the old WHL, if they have any memories of it all. That was nearly seven years ago, so those kids will be becoming teenagers now.

The old WHL will just be something us “old” guys reminisce about, like seeing Hoddle play, or Tottenham win a trophy

It's like my niece won't have known the world before covid and won't have really known about the queen (but she'll probably find out about it in a textbook at school at some point). Things evolve and change over time and generations get used to new versions. It's weird living in the transitional phases for sure though.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I remember a consultation meeting with architects, Levy and one or two other Spurs execs, before NPD existed, when the plan was the redevelopment of WHL, concentrating on rebuilding the West Stand and improving the other three stands.

I believe it was during that period and as a result of their findings that the limitations imposed by not owning the surrounding land and properties became clear, in financial terms.

The significant point isn’t so much what their preferred option was, because that changed a number of times with circumstances, but the fact that it quickly became obvious to Levy & Co ( Sugar had no idea really) that redeveloping WHL, which many fans still wish had happened, was simply not a viable plan.

Nobody sitting around me , all oldies mind you love the new stadium , when I asked them would you want to go back to an extended Lane , emphatic no is the answer. Not sure exactly how much spent on buying up the surrounding land was but in 2017 it stood at £340 million including initial building costs.

Club Announcement - New Stadium Scheme Financing

Tottenham Hotspur Limited (the "Club") is pleased to announce the signing of a five-year bank financing arrangement which includes a £400m bank facility (the "Facility") to support the financing of the 61,500 seater multi-purpose new stadium, the Tottenham Experience and the largest retail store...

www.tottenhamhotspur.com

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Entertaining little video on food at NWHL, food was better than the Wolves result.

 

[Wine Gum]

Looks like there could be an application to increase the non football events to 30 a year.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Can't see an increase from 16 to 30 major events being allowed by the council considering the comments made about adding the extra concert last year.
If there was any news on this surely the local councillor on Haringey Council for Northumberland Park Ward would know about it and not someone on Twitnews who can't even get the date right.

 

[Wine Gum]

It does seem a stretch too far and a smaller incremental increase would have a better chance of being agreed. Martin Ball isn’t the greatest spark and could easily have got it all completely wrong.

 

[tottenmal]

Could it be a case of ask for 30 and second to worst case 20? Maybe in increase to 20 would work in the short term, 25 would provide a bit of future proofing so ask for 30 and you can ‘compromise’ on a lower amount and everyone wins.

 

[DogsOfWar]

The original plan was always to go from 16 to 32 events.

But I always assumed it would be implemented after the West side of the High Road/Goods Yard was re-developed with the 'Tottenham walk' and various amenities that would help delay/disperse the crowds arriving and departing.

I'd be surprised if it was approved beforehand.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

If you look at the council comments on the last amendment to allow the Beyonce concert, doubt any great increase is going to be allowed and as far as I can see nothing official on the planning site of any application from Spurs as yet.

The Council has ensured that the planning permission secures certain commitments, in particular:

- Limiting the number of concerts in any one week to three, to reduce the impact that a high number of major events in a short space of time could have on the local community

• Spurs has made a range of commitments to ensure the benefits of major events are maximised and the negative impacts on residents are minimised.

 

[RJR1949]

The original plan was always to go from 16 to 32 events.

But I always assumed it would be implemented after the West side of the High Road/Goods Yard was re-developed with the 'Tottenham walk' and various amenities that would help delay/disperse the crowds arriving and departing.

I'd be surprised if it was approved beforehand.

Northumberland Park is one of the most deprived wards in the country and events at the stadium bring a lot of money into the local economy. A smart council would approve the bid subject to commitments from Spurs to increase (from the current target of 20%) the proportion of people working at the stadium who are from the local community.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Intriguing to know whats planned for this application, there has been nothing on the website but local communities have been invited to an exhibition.
There are just 12 weeks between end of football season and start again in the summer so to fit in 14 extra events you would think it would be during the football season , have to see where Haringey Council stand on all this.

 

[DogsOfWar]

Northumberland Park is one of the most deprived wards in the country and events at the stadium bring a lot of money into the local economy. A smart council would approve the bid subject to commitments from Spurs to increase (from the current target of 20%) the proportion of people working at the stadium who are from the local community.

I'd guess it was down to the local community to decide between the boost to local food/beer outlets, shops and extra part time work against the inconvenience of road closures, saturated local transport, and tens of thousands of non-locals taking over.
I would have thought the majority were against it as the people benefiting are a much smaller part of the community.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Would the council allow five events in one week ? How many did Beyonce do ?

 

[Wick3d]

Would the council allow five events in one week ? How many did Beyonce do ?

Lots of money for local businesses. Most event days are okay, you get the odd numpty or two, but its generally pretty okay.

The only time I saw the place insane was the Lady Gaga and Beyonce concerts, both for different reasons. One, the Gaga fans might as well have been naked and two, lots of fans without tickets milling around at the Beyonce concert.

 

[Farmdog]

The original plan was always to go from 16 to 32 events.

But I always assumed it would be implemented after the West side of the High Road/Goods Yard was re-developed with the 'Tottenham walk' and various amenities that would help delay/disperse the crowds arriving and departing.

I'd be surprised if it was approved beforehand.

It is an interim move. The club knows without those agreements they cannot expand the event number to their original +30 events per year but they clearly have modelling info (from stats in recently held events) at hand to suggest a possibile extra
5-10 events per year is achievable with positive impacts outweighing negative ones for the community.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Lots of money for local businesses. Most event days are okay, you get the odd numpty or two, but its generally pretty okay.

The only time I saw the place insane was the Lady Gaga and Beyonce concerts, both for different reasons. One, the Gaga fans might as well have been naked and two, lots of fans without tickets milling around at the Beyonce concert.

Agreed , sure local businesses, pubs would be very enthusiastic, when you read the response by the council re the extra Beyonce concert just wonder if Spurs might have to reduce the numbers a bit.

Limiting the number of concerts in any one week to three, to reduce the impact that a high number of major events in a short space of time could have on the local community.

Update on events being staged at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium | Haringey Council

Cllr Sarah Williams, Cabinet Member for Housing Services, Private Renters and Planning, has issued a statement on future events taking place at the Tottenham

www.haringey.gov.uk

 

[dovahkiin]

technical tour pics.

LONDON - Tottenham Hotspur Stadium / New White Hart Lane...

www.skyscrapercity.com

 

[Wick3d]

Interesting learning about the sky bridge and the trade offs it caused just having it there. Hopefully we put it to use soon!

 

[mark87]