Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[PCozzie]

What does this mean exactly? Kieran Maguire retweet so presume it's posted with knowledge. Suggests Chelsea can make another sale of land/buildings to themselves to get the right side of PSR.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Chelsea are not the only club to sell to themselves, Spurs have done it with ENIC. Go back in the accounts , 2014 I think you will find properties sold to TH Property Ltd a Bahamas company owned by ENIC , no idea for how much but it was for some or maybe all of the properties owned by the club on the west side of the High Rd. In the accounts just released you will find TH Property Ltd charging the Group (Spurs) £1.3 million for rent, must be all very legal as it's published in the accounts. Probably on a smaller scale than Chelsea sell and buy but all very strange.

 

[superted4]

Chelsea are not the only club to sell to themselves, Spurs have done it with ENIC. Go back in the accounts , 2014 I think you will find properties sold to TH Property Ltd a Bahamas company owned by ENIC , no idea for how much but it was for some or maybe all of the properties owned by the club on the west side of the High Rd. In the accounts just released you will find TH Property Ltd charging the Group (Spurs) £1.3 million for rent, must be all very legal as it's published in the accounts. Probably on a smaller scale than Chelsea sell and buy but all very strange.

I believe the rent is for the offices in lillywhite house. I think the sale was to swap for some land TH property had acquired that the stadium needed to be built on. Someone else may be able to shed more light.

chelsea look like they’re doing it purely to pass PSR

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I believe the rent is for the offices in lillywhite house. I think the sale was to swap for some land TH property had acquired that the stadium needed to be built on. Someone else may be able to shed more light.

chelsea look like they’re doing it purely to pass PSR

Think in the stadium thread someone has said that all the stadium land including Lilywhite House and the proposed hotel is all owned by the club under Tottenham Hotspur Limited , it's the land to the west of the High Rd that got transferred/sold to TH Property Ltd and is not connected to PSR.
The whole Chelsea saga is convoluted , Chelsea FC don't even own the freehold of Stamford Bridge or the Chelsea name.

Guardian did a story on Spurs property in 2013.

Tottenham's new stadium: how club can cash in on development plan

Investigation reveals the full extent of Tottenham Hotspur's part in the local area's regeneration plan

www.theguardian.com

 

[Cambridge Spur]

The only people I feel sorry for if something happens are lifelong fans like my dad. And I know I'll probably get hate for feeling sorry for anyone or anything Chelsea related but he has been a fan since the 60s.

I’m intrigued to know how this has happened….not a dig at you or your dad but how do you support different teams? Spurs is basically an extension of my family, my dad, my son etc etc. I just couldn’t fathom my own son supporting another team, let alone Chelsea or Arsenal.

 

[easley91]

I’m intrigued to know how this has happened….not a dig at you or your dad but how do you support different teams? Spurs is basically an extension of my family, my dad, my son etc etc. I just couldn’t fathom my own son supporting another team, let alone Chelsea or Arsenal.

As a child I began supporting Tottenham thanks to a family friend who I looked up to, but it just felt right. It wasn't until much later in life that I found out my dad's family actually originated from Tottenham before his dad moved down to Sussex. He told me he chose Chelsea as a child to annoy the family when they played an FA Cup final in the 60s. He has been a blue ever since.

He never pressured me or my brother into supporting Chelsea and let us go our own way however we got there. My brother is Chelsea and I am Tottenham. But I will say, my dad took me to Spurs games when I was younger, had a season ticket with me for one season and is still a member to this day so we go to the odd game. Despite being Chelsea he still took me along to White Hart Lane. We even went to Old Trafford to see Spurs get battered 3-0.

When it comes to football I couldn't ask for a better dad. I know if I ever have children, as much as I would want them to follow in my miserable Spurs footsteps, I wouldn't pressure them into it.

 

[RuskyM]

The previous owner didn't understand British football culture and they had no problems with him.

We want our club back!

(Oh, you want it to be owned by the fans?)

Oh, no. We want it to be owned by the other billionaire half the world away again.

 

[Cambridge Spur]

As a child I began supporting Tottenham thanks to a family friend who I looked up to, but it just felt right. It wasn't until much later in life that I found out my dad's family actually originated from Tottenham before his dad moved down to Sussex. He told me he chose Chelsea as a child to annoy the family when they played an FA Cup final in the 60s. He has been a blue ever since.

He never pressured me or my brother into supporting Chelsea and let us go our own way however we got there. My brother is Chelsea and I am Tottenham. But I will say, my dad took me to Spurs games when I was younger, had a season ticket with me for one season and is still a member to this day so we go to the odd game. Despite being Chelsea he still took me along to White Hart Lane. We even went to Old Trafford to see Spurs get battered 3-0.

When it comes to football I couldn't ask for a better dad. I know if I ever have children, as much as I would want them to follow in my miserable Spurs footsteps, I wouldn't pressure them into it.

That’s brilliant mate. Sorry if I’ve come across a bit nosy, I just find it interesting when I hear these sorts of things. It always makes me laugh when someone says that their wife supports another team, I’d definitely be divorced by now if my wife was into football . COYS.

 

[easley91]

That’s brilliant mate. Sorry if I’ve come across a bit nosy, I just find it interesting when I hear these sorts of things. It always makes me laugh when someone says that their wife supports another team, I’d definitely be divorced by now if my wife was into football . COYS.

It's an unconventional story for sure, but what I love about it is I chose Tottenham without knowing it was in the genes at the time. I like to think of it like I am bringing it back to our roots.

 

[rossdapep]

Supposedly Matt Law has been banned by Chelsea for heckling Poch and saying "your shit press conference"

I'm getting that off Twitter so may be wrong but a journo definitely shouted that at Poch.

These journos think it's all about them

 

[knowlespurs]

Supposedly Matt Law has been banned by Chelsea for heckling Poch and saying "your shit press conference"

I'm getting that off Twitter so may be wrong but a journo definitely shouted that at Poch.

These journos think it's all about them

Think law said it wasn’t him

 

[kmk]

Apparently he died from multiple organ failure after surgery to replace a faulty valve in his heart.

 

[E17yid]

As a child I began supporting Tottenham thanks to a family friend who I looked up to, but it just felt right. It wasn't until much later in life that I found out my dad's family actually originated from Tottenham before his dad moved down to Sussex. He told me he chose Chelsea as a child to annoy the family when they played an FA Cup final in the 60s. He has been a blue ever since.

He never pressured me or my brother into supporting Chelsea and let us go our own way however we got there. My brother is Chelsea and I am Tottenham. But I will say, my dad took me to Spurs games when I was younger, had a season ticket with me for one season and is still a member to this day so we go to the odd game. Despite being Chelsea he still took me along to White Hart Lane. We even went to Old Trafford to see Spurs get battered 3-0.

When it comes to football I couldn't ask for a better dad. I know if I ever have children, as much as I would want them to follow in my miserable Spurs footsteps, I wouldn't pressure them into it.

I completely agree, kids should make up their own minds and shouldn’t be influenced or pressured in any way, which is why I simply told my son you can either support Spurs, or you can live in the shed on 1 meal a week. After a couple of weeks he made the right call in the end.

 

[Marty]

I completely agree, kids should make up their own minds and shouldn’t be influenced or pressured in any way, which is why I simply told my son you can either support Spurs, or you can live in the shed on 1 meal a week. After a couple of weeks he made the right call in the end.

But this was very different back in the days. My granddad started going to football in the 30s and although he was nominally an Arsenal fan and Arsenal were the best team at the time, he never disliked Tottenham and in those days it was very common for North Londoners to go to watch both sides' home games. When my dad then chose Spurs in the 60s (thanks to the '67 cup final), my grandad went more to Spurs than he did to Arsenal.

That sort of tribalistic nonsense we see today hasn't always been there.

 

[E17yid]

But this was very different back in the days. My granddad started going to football in the 30s and although he was nominally an Arsenal fan and Arsenal were the best team at the time, he never disliked Tottenham and in those days it was very common for North Londoners to go to watch both sides' home games. When my dad then chose Spurs in the 60s (thanks to the '67 cup final), my grandad went more to Spurs than he did to Arsenal.

That sort of tribalistic nonsense we see today hasn't always been there.

I always tell my son you’re lucky to be born in the 21st century. I remind him constantly that if he was born 100 years earlier he likely would’ve had no dad as he would’ve likely been killed in WW1, he would have to work up a chimney or down a mine to put food on the table, no FIFA, no nice food, a miserable horrible time. Now I can add “Arsenal and Tottenham fans used to get along back then” to the list.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

But this was very different back in the days. My granddad started going to football in the 30s and although he was nominally an Arsenal fan and Arsenal were the best team at the time, he never disliked Tottenham and in those days it was very common for North Londoners to go to watch both sides' home games. When my dad then chose Spurs in the 60s (thanks to the '67 cup final), my grandad went more to Spurs than he did to Arsenal.

That sort of tribalistic nonsense we see today hasn't always been there.

You're right there was not all this tribalistic stuff, 60/61 season went to the Spurs/ Arsenal game at Highbury and stood in in amongst Arsenal fans cheering on Spurs without any problems, there was no segregation.
In the 50's my fathers boss had season tickets for both clubs , one week he'd go to Spurs following week Arsenal.
Always wish I had kept a Spurs programme from 1952 that I got in an auction job lot of Spurs stuff about 20 years ago , on the front page was a message went something like "Good luck to our friends at Arsenal in next weeks FA Cup Final." but they did lose to Newcastle.

 

[allatsea]

But this was very different back in the days. My granddad started going to football in the 30s and although he was nominally an Arsenal fan and Arsenal were the best team at the time, he never disliked Tottenham and in those days it was very common for North Londoners to go to watch both sides' home games. When my dad then chose Spurs in the 60s (thanks to the '67 cup final), my grandad went more to Spurs than he did to Arsenal.

That sort of tribalistic nonsense we see today hasn't always been there.

Totally agree. One of my bosses in the 70's use have season tickets for both Spurs and Arsenal. One week one then the other the next week. Couldn't afford it now though lol.

 

[Zaphod]

So...

Has this whole 'lets sell our own hotel back to ourselves' ruse gotten them out of an FFP shape hole?

 

[Monkey boy]

So...

Has this whole 'let’s sell our own hotel back to ourselves' ruse gotten them out of an FFP shape hole?

would appear so and it couldn’t be a more blatant middle finger to PSR if they tried as they are still taking the profits from it apparently.

 

[only1waddle]

But this was very different back in the days. My granddad started going to football in the 30s and although he was nominally an Arsenal fan and Arsenal were the best team at the time, he never disliked Tottenham and in those days it was very common for North Londoners to go to watch both sides' home games. When my dad then chose Spurs in the 60s (thanks to the '67 cup final), my grandad went more to Spurs than he did to Arsenal.

That sort of tribalistic nonsense we see today hasn't always been there.

Yep, my dad watched Arsenal when Spurs were away in the early 60's, he was living in Highgate at the time and backs up what you say about fans going to watch multiple London clubs.