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Hutton's wherabouts...

ghetto_spur

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Apologies if this has already been posted.

source http://www.thfc1882.com/2011/02/25/alan-hutton-the-truth-maybe/

The big story in recent weeks has been the disappearance of Alan Hutton, and when I say big, I mean someone brings it up every now and again. The trouble with the Scottish right back is he’s not good enough for us fans to worry when he’s not playing. However, he’s not bad enough to warrant not playing when we’ve got no other right backs available for selection which happened against Blackpool.

This morning goal.com have written an “exclusive” on Hutton’s recent omissions from the team. It may not be an exclusive as I would understand the word because everyone had already heard the rumours. As normal they only quote a source they have but it pretty much marries up with the rumours. After the humiliating exit from the FA Cup at the hands of Fulham, it’s reported that Redknapp made a bee-line for Hutton and placed a large proportion of the blame on him in front of his team-mates. Hutton objected to this and what followed must’ve been one of the hardest to understand arguments in the English speaking world.


Lots of things happen in the heat of the moment in every changing room across the country, whether it’s the premier league or a Sunday afternoon hungover kick-about but reportedly and allegedly (covering my back) it was so bad Redknapp felt he needed to speak to Hutton again the following day in his office. Unfortunately this wasn’t a chance for both parties to apologise and move on, it was to give him another dressing down presumably this time because not only was our 4-0 defeat entirely the right backs fault but because he dared to question the logic in that.
I should briefly state here that all of this could be utter rubbish, but the likelihood is it’s spot on. As the saying goes, there’s no smoke without fire. Unless someone’s just having a fag of course. Or a BBQ. Or there’s one of those natural hot springs about. Anyway, normally there’s no smoke without fire and seeing as these rumours started to surface within the Spurs fraternity a few days after the Fulham game there’s a good chance they’re correct. Add to that fact the club haven’t said anything about him being injured and there must be another reason for his disappearance.
If this is true I have a couple of problems with it.

The first being why is it not ok to disagree with the manager when he’s putting an abnormal amount of the blame for a 4-0 defeat on one player? Forget it’s football for one minute. If my company lost an order for example and I was one link in the chain that led to that I wouldn’t be pleased to be the only one taking the blame, let alone a large amount of the blame and in front of my work colleagues. I would say something in retaliation too. Just how much Hutton said is something we don’t know. If he retorted with comments about Michael Dawson’s shocking two moments that led to us being 2-0 down or Redknapp’s terrible tactics for the game then I guess a further dressing down could be called for, but if he simply stated he shouldn’t be singled out for blame what’s the problem with that?


Everyone makes mistakes. I make plenty in work and on this blog as I switch between the two every time my boss walks past my PC monitor and when I do I’ll hold my hands up but if I got blamed for something I didn’t do as an adult I would feel I had the right to say so and would expect a degree of respect from my boss whether he agreed with me or not and I shouldn’t have to worry about losing my job if I did.


The second issue I have and the one we as fans should be more concerned about is because of this argument, injury to Corluka and only having two natural right backs at the club we’re now playing with Gallas in that position. That not only makes us weaker on the right of defence but as seen on Tuesday, weaker centrally too. Maybe what was said and possibly done in the aftermath of the Fulham game was so bad it’s just impossible for Hutton to be in the side any more. As I said if he attacked more than the manager and started rounding on his team-mates then I guess this could be the case but there are no rumours of this happening. It seems he’s just fallen out with the manager, who is now putting his ego ahead of the success of the team which shouldn’t be allowed.


There are plenty of managers who would drop a player for talking back to them and I have no problem with that. I doubt Bill Nic would’ve tolerated it but then I also know he wouldn’t have let his team be weakened significantly because of it. As I’ve briefly said on this subject before, cutting your nose off to spite your face isn’t the way to go.


If, and we don’t know exactly, things have been said that mean there’s no way to rectify things then I’m on Redknapp’s side. However, if all Hutton did was argue his position that the defeat wasn’t his fault in what I’m sure would’ve been an aggressive manner then at least while Corluka is injured bygones must be allowed to be bygones. Once we have a natural right back available for selection again by all means leave Hutton to rot in the reserves (which we don’t have) and sell him in the summer after all he’s just a little bit crap anyway and it’ll be the perfect opportunity for Kyle Walker to compete for the position.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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If this and if that. So basically you're in the same boat as the rest of us in that we haven't got the faintest idea of what actually happened :shrug:
 

EastLondonYid

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Other RB options....pienaar,wilson ,j j or kaboul who is back soon, Hutton is not worth worrying about IMO.

Harry is the boss, what he says should be final...end of.

We lost on tuesday because our finishing was shocking/unlucky/both.
 

Gilzeanking

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The most important thing is the team .

IT appears we aren't playing our 9 Mill and only fit Right Back .

We played a player out of position at right back and lost 3-0 last match

It seems the reason for this is a falling out between player and manager

Whatever the substance of the falling out it was deemed sufficient for Harry to play a weaker team which then lost .

Results may have been and may be in the future compromised by this spat . This is not in the interests of Spurs . I hope Harry has a supremely good reason for doing things that harm our prospects ...or else this is clearly very bad management .
 

Bus-Conductor

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"IF" true, shit man management to single out Hutton for blame when it was a) Redknapp's terrible tactics and b) Dawson.

I don't blame him for not taking the blame. Especially as after the penalty, which he was put into by Dawson stupidity, he played pretty well, compared to some of the other ****'s out there that day.
 

nicdic

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"IF" true, shit man management to single out Hutton for blame when it was a) Redknapp's terrible tactics and b) Dawson.

I don't blame him for not taking the blame. Especially as after the penalty, which he was put into by Dawson stupidity, he played pretty well, compared to some of the other ****'s out there that day.

Reports suggest Dawson got a pretty big dressing down too, but it's the response from Hutton that has caused the rift.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Reports suggest Dawson got a pretty big dressing down too, but it's the response from Hutton that has caused the rift.

What reports mentioned Dawson's dressing down ?

I still don't think Hutton did much wrong apart from the penalty compared to many others.



I don't think Charlie has "proved" it?

I agree.

He's a more intelligent footballer, compromised by a grave lack of ability to accelerate, which no matter how good you are technically is a severe handicap in a FB that has to deal with, amongst others, wingers.
 

walspur

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Reports suggest Dawson got a pretty big dressing down too, but it's the response from Hutton that has caused the rift.

After the Milan game Harry, when talking about Dawson, said "That's what you need real men."

Struck me at the time that it was possibly a dig a someone else.
 

lilywhitecurtis

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:lol:

A big defeat against Fulham and slip against Blackpool and Redknapp is all of a sudden the biggest **** on the planet.

It really doesn't take long for the anti-Redknapp brigade to get going does it?

Might I add, they were tossing backhanded compliments toward him after the AC Milan game.

I don't see how Redknapp is being criticized here, has Alex '10 titles' Ferguson EVER put up with players answering back in the dressing room? We'll ask David Beckham shall we? Hutton is a troublesome character off the field anyway... With Walker coming back in the summer, we'll need to ship a right back, and I'd rather it was Hutton over Charlie.
 

beals

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I have to say I think some of you are rather harsh on Hutton. If he was fit and available for the Blackpool game I reckon Harry would have played him, it just makes no sense not too, and would show Harry up as being very small minded, letting personal disagreements effect the good of the team. WG is not a right back and he struggled in that position against Blackpool, whilst also weakening our CD as Bassong had a bit of a mare. Gallas offered nothing going forward, not a slight on Gallas as he is a CD after all. However Hutton no matter what you think of his defending would have helped push Blackpool back with his forward runs. (hey he may even have scored) In conclusion I reckon the there is a little truth in the story ie that Hutton was injured before the Blackpool game. I for one hope he will be back soon as I reckon Corluka won't be back for a few weeks yet and we need a RB not a CD playing as a right back.
 

nicdic

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The rift didn't cost us against Blackpool as apparently he'd picked up a knock in training this week.
 

chrissivad

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All its proved is despite 7 billion right backs untold millions spent we still need a rb because if corluka is the answer then we have big problems

Think we have the answer. We just have been waiting untill he is ready, and by the little i have seen of him in the Premiership so far its looking good.

Walker our RB for next season
 
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