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FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

Wsussexspur

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If this was Chelsea he'd have been sacked in the Emirates changing room now watch us dither and limp on for another few weeks then act, god knows who the next mug will be but sadly Nuno isn't the right man for this club,Levy get it done asap this can't be left to fester .

Fully agree! Sadly Levy has shown during in time at the club he isnt a leader. He normally divers about lets The situation spiral further out of control and then decides it time to act.
 

sidford

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Hopefully MNF do a piece on the game tonight which will highlight just how poor we are, the lack of leadership both on the pitch and on the sidelines which will hopefully lead into bigger questions about Levy's role in the shit show we have been for 3 years now.
If something like that happens on MNF other outlets will start doing pieces on it too and hopefully that will lead to more.negative coverage for Levy
 

allatsea

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Can someone explain why we are constantly changing our central defenders ? I thought the ideal was to select your best two central defenders and then stick with them. I realise we have lots of games to play but this constant changing of our central defenders is leading to an unsettled defence IMO.
 

Wsussexspur

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Ultimately, it’s looking like we fucked up appointing Nuno (and that idiot Paratici) in the summer. However, if we were sack Nuno now, who we would actually appoint? Two names at the top of my shortlist would be Frank and Potter, but neither would come until the summer. I believe Nino deserves until the third international break but even if you disagree who would you get in mid season.

whats the difference between sacking him now and in November. After the Chelsea and Wolves games I was all for giving him till November to see how he would do and if he could turn the situation around. However that went out of the window yesterday after that pathetic shameful display. Also he didn’t help himself bumberling along in his press conference after the game. Just looks like a broken man who realises he is massively out of his depth.

Look at the fixtures we have between now and the November internationals realistically under Nuno how many of these games do you think we would win? I’d say Newcastle and that’s potentially it. Hard to see us getting more than 2 points from West Ham away,Man Utd at home and Everton away.
 

SpartanSpur

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Hopefully MNF do a piece on the game tonight which will highlight just how poor we are, the lack of leadership both on the pitch and on the sidelines which will hopefully lead into bigger questions about Levy's role in the shit show we have been for 3 years now.
If something like that happens on MNF other outlets will start doing pieces on it too and hopefully that will lead to more.negative coverage for Levy

I think both Levy and the players need to get a lot of negative coverage. Most of these players clearly aren't giving enough for the badge so maybe a bit of damaged personal pride should go a long way.

This stuff about Kane being a top professional clearly needs to go in the bin too, he's clearly not right now.
 
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The guy is working with the same shit that we had last season. What I want to know is why it takes years for any of our signing to bed in. When Man Utd sign a player (apart from Van De Beek) they seem to get going on their debut. We are still waiting for GLC and Ndombele to settle after 3 years. Our new centre back who was one of the best in the World last season looks like he will take a season or 2 or 3 or 4 to settle in. Maybe our club is too nice and makes players feel too comfortable. Man Utd have the mentality of succeed or leave.
 

g_harry

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Disappointed to wake up and see he’s still here.
Think the problem is they have no one else. He was already 20th on list over summer. So where do they turn now, as seen by Conte top coach won't touch us because of Levy.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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"Big Chances Created"

Us last season:

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Wolves last season:
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Us this season:

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freeeki

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Disappointed to wake up and see he’s still here.

I would be more disappointed to wake up and see we'd sacked yet another manager without a plan of how we move forward.

Unless a stellar manager comes available, I think Nuno will be given until Christmas. Unless we keep conceding 3 every week, but I just can't see that happening.
 

PCozzie

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Can someone explain why we are constantly changing our central defenders ? I thought the ideal was to select your best two central defenders and then stick with them. I realise we have lots of games to play but this constant changing of our central defenders is leading to an unsettled defence IMO.
I suppose, rationally, he's looked at the three clean sheets in the first three games and picked the CBs that achieved them. That's not an irrational decision, but what he also did was to take out the second DM that was protecting them. When he put the second DM back at HT we looked (a little) better and didn't concede.

So to answer your question, Nuno most probably believes Sanchez/Dier is, at the minute, our best CB partnership and was returning the defence to a settled state. Whether he's right about that can be discussed ad nauseum.
 

YB123

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The club will try and keep Nuno for a bit longer, then last resort bring in Mason again and go for Poch in summer. Its going to be another waste of a season, without doubt.
 

YB123

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I suppose, rationally, he's looked at the three clean sheets in the first three games and picked the CBs that achieved them. That's not an irrational decision, but what he also did was to take out the second DM that was protecting them. When he put the second DM back at HT we looked (a little) better and didn't concede.

So to answer your question, Nuno most probably believes Sanchez/Dier is, at the minute, our best CB partnership and was returning the defence to a settled state. Whether he's right about that can be discussed ad nauseum.

Have to remember we did this with Skipp and Hojbjerg protecting both of them. He then just inexplicably plays the 1. crazy.
 

freeeki

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The club will try and keep Nuno for a bit longer, then last resort bring in Mason again and go for Poch in summer. Its going to be another waste of a season, without doubt.

And a waste of another summer pissing around waiting for fucking Poch to come back, before ending up with Eddie Howe.
 

leray

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Is it a time to start a "Next Manager Discussion" thread?

It feels like it, I'm even checking if there was any ITK about the situation.

Nuno wasn't the choice of either Paratici or Levy. Paratici wanted Conte, but he wanted too much.

We wanted Flick for some time, but we all now how it went. We focused on Fonseca, but then Gattuso became available, so we ditched Fonseca. Gattuso was a no-go though. We couldn't come back for either Fonseca or Gattuso and the clock was ticking so after multiple 7-10 days the only one left was Nuno.

For some time it felt like a "not bad" appointment, but now it feels he's out of his depth.

It'd be great if he found something inside him to turn this around but we went from lucky first to undeservedly mid-table.
 

YB123

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why would any decent manager take this job lol?

We've seen from the summer that this job is a poisoned chalice. No more "anyone would take the job - facilities, stadium, London, EPL". It goes further than that now.

It would have to be an exciting unknown. A Gallardo type. But after Fonsecas comments, it would likely be a cautious experienced type unfortunately.
 

Dave1882

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Praying this turns into a Jacques Santini - Martin Jol situation, where one seems to be a smokescreen for another. Sooner he's gone the better
 
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