Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Tucker]

His comments about the same players etc are laughable.

Forster; Romero, Dier, Lenglet; Porro, Hojbjerg, Skipp, Davies; Deki, Kane, Son

And Davies went off for Perisic, a Conte signing

4 players from Poch squad, 5 from Mourinho. Of those players 2 are Kane and Son.

He is just ranting to deflect blame and get himself sacked and he needs to go now.

It’s one thing to suggest that those three aren’t good enough technically but they all always put 100% in. I’m not having it that they are a problem. Like you say. It’s just a man who knows he’s failed lashing out and trying to blame everyone else for his problems. It’s rather unedifying to be honest.

Can’t wait for the announcement now tbh.

 

[PLTuck]

I agree but it’s not necessarily the chisels but also the wood. Regardless I’d have to make better furniture than the others to justify my salary. The wood hasn’t changed but in some respects the chisels have improved

When the seagulls follow the trawler....

 

[rossdapep]

I just wonder what EXACTLY is the problem at spurs. We can say it’s levy; but what is it about levy ? What EXACTLY is it about the board? Do they micro manage the day to day business & get involved in decisions beyond their remit? Do they put managers under pressure to play certain players because of the financial outlay & agent pressure? Do they sign players as financial acquisitions that the coach or manager does not want or need?
Thanks Antonio for what you’ve brought - you’ve been Levied

A number of things.

A vision and clear strategy ensure everyone is on the same page and heading in the same direction.
A set of values ensures players don't step out of line and when they do they are easily kicked out - makes sure the team are a 'team'

But I'd say from the top we don't have a set of 'winning standards'

For example, top 4 is seen as an achievement. Man Utd see that as a failure. It's not just about the money, there has to be success.

Levy and co are happy with a status quo, as long as can achieve top 4 then nothing else is seen as a disaster.

 

[Oscar22]

A manager is calling out our rotten chairman, rotten club, and rotten culture.

Something we are ALL aware of.

Which - according to our fanbase on here - makes him the bad guy.

It is pathetic.

What most people me included are saying is that what he’s saying is correct, but he’s ignorant enough not to acknowledge that he had made zero improvement to the club, and it’s not all down to the people he’s blaming.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Well we might get a new manager bounce then be here again in 18 months. Conte is right on a basic level the issue is the board even if he has blame to share.

 

[FinnYid]

Right and what relevance does this have to the importance that we finally have a manager call out how he see's it. I'll explain why it's irrelevant to be clear; we have had managers who have made excuses and have failed and gone into self preservation mode in the past, none have called the board out directly. Thats why what you're saying is irrelevant to the crux of the point.

Funnily enough, nothing points out more to incompetence of board than hiring these completely unsuitable managers in the first place.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Boring ex Chelsea mercenary who is trying to get his payout instead of doing the honourable thing and resigning.

 

[Ndombers]

Im not picking on you (as it seems to be what people have wanted from day one) but ive been absolutely fucking against this from day one. A lot of fans are like - yes this is what we want from Conte etc - NO. You want this? hire a fucking consultant and let them dish it out for everyone. I never wanted any of this - I wanted him to coach and manage and make us better.

Just makes us more of a laughing stock hanging our laundry in public - dont need any of this. It is all bollocks.

Might be doing us a favour in the long run, though

 

[freeeki]

What most people me included are saying is that what he’s saying is correct, but he’s ignorant enough not to acknowledge that he had made zero improvement to the club, and it’s not all down to the people he’s blaming.

Yeah that’s definitely the problem. Clearly.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I’ll certainly use it to beat him all I like when he’s taking zero responsibility for his part in this situation.

I’ve reiterated numerous times I want the board and plenty of players gone, but making him out to be some messiah who’s had to work with dross and never stood a chance is nonsense. He’s added zero to the club, and the only way he’s won things in the past is by spending bucketloads… does he bring anything as a manager or does he just rant and rave the moment he gets found to be nothing other than a cheque book holder?

First of all, literally in today interview

"I think it is right also, there is a moment, that the coach is the first responsible, the club is the first responsible - the players, the players have to take the responsibility because what we are seeing in the last month I don't like. I don't like.

You can infer what you want from this but he is saying the manager and the club must take responsibility first, but eventually the players have to take the blame when it’s their fault.

Saying he’s added zero to the club is hyperbole at best, he got a very mediocre team to Top 4 last season but has admittedly fallen a bit short this season. That’s a fair amount more than zero no matter how bad it looked today.

You can downplay his past achievements all you want but Pep spent over a billion at City and he’s still considered one of the best in the world. He spent a bunch at Bayern too and inherited arguably the best Barcelona squad to ever play the game.

Certain managers come with certain requirements, which we knew when we signed Conte. You can be mad about the football on the pitch or the performances but you can’t be angry that he’s a manager that needs players to succeed, it’s who he is and it’s what Levy signed up for.

 

[mabolsa_ritchey]

I must be the only one here who thinks Conte hasn’t gone in on the board at all with his rant. He actually includes them alongside himself with where the finger usually gets pointed. He’s solely gone in on the players mentality. Basically admitting he can’t do the job he is paid very handsomely to do.

Its all very entertaining for sure though

 

[rossdapep]

I will build a shrine to Conte (start wearing wigs too) if it was to lead to a major change at the top. It won't but I can dream.

 

[Metalhead]

What most people me included are saying is that what he’s saying is correct, but he’s ignorant enough not to acknowledge that he had made zero improvement to the club, and it’s not all down to the people he’s blaming.

We can definitely do better although the culture at the club is such that it's hard to see us improving to the extent that we'll win trophies.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Getting rid of Conte is easier than getting rid of the rest of the frauds at this club. I fear if Poch was to return, he would run into the same issues

At least it'd be attacking football and he wouldn't throw everyone under the bus every match.

 

[chas vs dave]

I go to a lot of games.

None of them costing £60.

Good for you. I go to every game.

I guess that makes me a part of the "problem". Conte talks like he's doing us a favour.

Again, a manager from a lower club makes proactive subs, and conte gets caught with his pants down.

It's as much to do with his own arrogance.

 

[wrd]

Do you go to games? It's almost like you are singling out people who put the effort in.

As harsh as it is I have to agree with Freeki, you have to speak the language that people understand and the only way for fans to communicate with the board is to stop giving them money.

They are the same as disney with marvel fans, they know there's a lot of people who see this as their identity and know that people wont dare not show up out of fear of being accused of not being a proper fan. So they know that fans will keep turning up and pay the prices and accept mediocrity.

The fans have to risk not being seen as loyal if they want the boards attention.

 

[whitesocks]

It sounds like a constructive resignation.
It pisses me off he'll get another 3 months money.

 

[cozzo]

Poor Southampton, that drawing to them has caused a shit storm lol

 

[felmani26]

Conte delivering some uncomfortable home truths for this club.

If you think the problem goes when Conte leaves you are very much mistaken!

 

[freeeki]

At least it'd be attacking football and he wouldn't throw everyone under the bus every match.

Becoming entertaining losers again.

The height of our ambition.