Mr Pink
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Always knew that was the problem. Too many know it alls, spear headed by Levy, thinking they have the vision to build on the pitch.
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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Always knew that was the problem. Too many know it alls, spear headed by Levy, thinking they have the vision to build on the pitch.
rajmak2000
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What is Levy's aim for Spurs? To qualify for CL every season but by spending the least amount of money on player transfers in doing so?
IamSpurtacus
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i think you answered your own question!
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Has something actually happened which suggests Levy is up to his old tricks or is this just all hypothetical? Ie. If Conte were to walk it would be because he hasn’t been backed which would be because Levy and the board are at fault
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King of the Lane
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I wonder why Levy is supposedly now interferring again. We are in the top 4, qualified for the next round of the CL....why shit the bed and cause issues now? This type of thing is so frustrating because it feels like we are in a never ending cycle of starting a new project and sabotaging it before it fully takes shape, rinse and repeat. If Conte leaves so does Kane and good luck replacing his quality on a shoestring budget.
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Was wondering this myself, is Conte actually leaving to go to a club in absolute turmoil regardless of his affinity with them?
thebenjamin
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Word on the street seems to be that the wallet is pretty empty for January unless we can sell
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Look in the scouting thread
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I don't think the ramifications of Conte walking because the club refuse to back him should be underplayed.
The fallout from it would be catastrophic for the club in my opinion. A world class manager who has consistently explained since he started that this was a long-term project that needed several transfer windows to get to a point to be able to challenge for silverware. That position hasn't changed.
Not backing him now, when we have all of the infrastructure in place, we are in the Champions Leage knockout stages and have world class talent on the pitch is nothing short of showing us up for being small time and shows that ENIC are not prepared to use the added income that the stadium provides and what the manager achieved last season in order to contend with the biggest clubs in Europe.
If Conte walks, i would expect to see Paratici do the same, Kane not to sign another deal and the majority of the fan base really start to voice their unhappiness.
What is the point of putting everything in place and not taking the next step? i don't get it. And i don't buy the line that we have no money. Bullshit.
The fallout from it would be catastrophic for the club in my opinion. A world class manager who has consistently explained since he started that this was a long-term project that needed several transfer windows to get to a point to be able to challenge for silverware. That position hasn't changed.
Not backing him now, when we have all of the infrastructure in place, we are in the Champions Leage knockout stages and have world class talent on the pitch is nothing short of showing us up for being small time and shows that ENIC are not prepared to use the added income that the stadium provides and what the manager achieved last season in order to contend with the biggest clubs in Europe.
If Conte walks, i would expect to see Paratici do the same, Kane not to sign another deal and the majority of the fan base really start to voice their unhappiness.
What is the point of putting everything in place and not taking the next step? i don't get it. And i don't buy the line that we have no money. Bullshit.
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What happened to the £50M we can still draw down from the £150M Enic investment
We have until December to draw it down, not sure the exact date.
Japhet
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What would you define as 'backing the Manager' though? As far as I'm aware, we tried very hard for Bastoni in the Summer but he wanted to stay put. He was Conte's top pick I believe. Levy made 150m available for business on top of any transfer revenue, so that isn't peanuts. The flip side of this is that Conte has shown no signs of committing to a new contract, but instead has allowed speculation about his future to churn around. Commitment is a 2 way street but Conte doesn't seem keen to hold up his end of the deal. If he walks out we'd most likely need to tear up his blueprint and start again so there needs to be movement at both ends as far as I can see.
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Speaking of which - do we know that Spurs have offered a new long-term deal? I know there have been reports in the press about the parties discussing a new deal - but, as you noted, commitment is a 2-way street.
The odd thing from Spurs perspective - the squad needs upgrading, no matter who is manager. So, Levy and the board are either committed to making the improvements, or they are not. If Spurs commit to improving, I suspect Conte would commit to managing. If Spurs balk at improving the squad, then I would argue, its Spurs who are not committed, rather than Conte.
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This is exactly the point. There is a big difference between not backing the manager ("sorry there is no funds available") and not being able to obtain the transfer targets that are asked for ("We were not able to get player x that you asked for yet, because of.....").
If it's the latter then i'm ok with it. I would rather we wait and get the players the manager wants for his system.
If it's the former then i think most of us will be very disgruntled and rightly so.
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The trouble is Conte has said it will take several windows to push on. If he were to leave before we've had those extra windows then we still need to wait to see if we invest next summer. I don't see there's much we can do until then. Sure if next summer comes and we don't invest in the window then questions have to be asked. If Conte is gone but we still spend in the summer then it's hard to complain. The club goes on with or without Conte. The only concern is whether we're willing to invest enough to challenge for titles. We will find out when the summer comes around. I don't think you can judge too much in January. Unless the board tells Conte there will be no money in the summer without selling and he leaves because of it. Its all hypothetical anyway.
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The problem is that Conte has a very specific system that he expects the club to finance. If he walks away and if say hypothetically Poch was to return, he would again presumably want to play a different way with fullbacks instead of WBs, 2 CBs instead of a back 3 and maybe a 10 in the hole behind the strikers. We don't have players that would work particularly well in that system, and Poch would undoubtedly expect to be backed properly this time. Just seems to me that Conte and his lack of commitment is potentially a big stumbling block to us moving on. As things stand, Levy could stump up a heap of cash with no guarantee that Conte will be around to put it into action.
Yes providing the money is important(although I've stated before that such a big deal was made about the £150mil when you have teams spending that on 1-2 players at times without a big hullabaloo about it).
But backing the manager is backing his philosophy, his style of play and obviously going all out for the players he wants to suit that style. Trix's post referring to some of the board thinking they know more about football than they do to me suggests they think they know what's better regarding the above over a world class, proven winner in Conte. Now obviously this is all hypethical at the moment so I guess we shall just wait and see.
Bluto Blutarsky
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Part of this is off-set by Paratici - assuming he stays, he will pick a new manager, and it will likely be one who plays a similar style to Conte.
But, if you think the change-over is too big a risk - then it really is incumbent on the board to back Conte... that is where your commitment issue really lies - not with Conte.
Japhet
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Agree. Just seems to me that we're in a 'chicken and egg' situation where Levy is expected to back Conte, but he quite rightly wants Conte to commit to THFC at the same time. We went through this in the Summer where Conte tested Levy's resolve by demanding Bastoni, and I think Levy and Paratici tried really hard for him, but roll on to the present day and there's sign of Conte having changed his stance. Who knows? Maybe he is close to signing a new deal, but it would be nice to know, not just for the fans but for the players also.
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