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Nice, intelligent lad who cares about the club. There’s a reason he’s stood out to every manager we’ve had. He’s so far down our list of problems.Why is that?
Nice, intelligent lad who cares about the club. There’s a reason he’s stood out to every manager we’ve had. He’s so far down our list of problems.Why is that?
He is the root of our problems in the back line, him and sad to say it Lloris.Nice, intelligent lad who cares about the club. There’s a reason he’s stood out to every manager we’ve had. He’s so far down our list of problems.
Had a great start to the season, got in the England squad and then gifted Liverpool with a 50p header. Turned to absolute shit since then. Weak minded a doesn’t back his own abilities. Clearly. Needs selling. Or giving away. No great defensive qualities. Donkey Dier as he is known in our house.There is something that all managers during Dier’s time here have seen in him. He has played most games every season he has been here. He is on the player committee. I remember earlier in the season there was talk about him being a starter for England again - he was playing well. He and the rest of the team have fallen off, but it’s always defenders who get the flack as they are the final link in the chain. See Royal, Sánchez, Romero over past few months. Their confidence looks destroyed. Could see new players next season - it’s important not to be hasty.
And that is the problem right there, we accept mediocrity. Our yardstick should be having players who would be a definitive starter in any off the Top 4 teams. Honestly, he wouldn't get into any of those teams.Nice, intelligent lad who cares about the club. There’s a reason he’s stood out to every manager we’ve had. He’s so far down our list of problems.
There is something that all managers during Dier’s time here have seen in him. He has played most games every season he has been here. He is on the player committee. I remember earlier in the season there was talk about him being a starter for England again - he was playing well. He and the rest of the team have fallen off, but it’s always defenders who get the flack as they are the final link in the chain. See Royal, Sánchez, Romero over past few months. Their confidence looks destroyed. Could see new players next season - it’s important not to be hasty.
I don't think he is good enough for a championship team nowAnd that is the problem right there, we accept mediocrity. Our yardstick should be having players who would be a definitive starter in any off the Top 4 teams. Honestly, he wouldn't get into any of those teams.
He’s not mediocre.As long as the contract states he’s only a squad option and no longer a starter. Whilst we keep accepting mediocrity we’re going nowhere.
If we're comparing him to Van Dijk or Romero, no he's not as good as those (although this season neither Van Dijk or Romero have been that good either). You've got a lot of CBs in the top - Saliba, Gabriel, Dias, Ake, Stones, Varane, Martinez, Botman - who have ups and downs too, and I'd argue at the end of last season Dier more than suited a top four team, cos he literally did. I'm not arguing he's Beckenbauer: I'm suggesting that when you see the nightmares the likes of Koulibaly have had this season maybe it's not so easy to fix. He's a good lad with a good head on his shoulders and good ability, which Conte and Mourinho agreed upon: we've got far, far worse problems than a player who makes mistakes but is unquestionably committed.And that is the problem right there, we accept mediocrity. Our yardstick should be having players who would be a definitive starter in any off the Top 4 teams. Honestly, he wouldn't get into any of those teams.
Nice, intelligent lad who cares about the club. There’s a reason he’s stood out to every manager we’ve had. He’s so far down our list of problems.
Why would I talk to a statistic?Try telling our goals against column that.
Just because when he’s been underperforming so have the majority of our players. This is why we have lists of 20 players who need to go. Definitely a few will not fit in the next iteration but writing off after this terrible period of the club is knee jerk, even though it’s a prolonged issue. I feel like we should half the squad but it’s not practical or helpful, and will not happen. A clear out rarely equates to 15-20 first team squad players, and most of them will perform well as squad players.hasty?
Decent defender but technically limited.
If I was the oppo manager I'd make sure Romero was man marked and the ball was given to Dier because he'd give the ball away with his limited passing ability.
I didn't say he's world class bud.Hes not even a decent defender, hes shocking positionally and lets not even talk about his 1/1 game.
Good on yer fella. Me neither.mate i don't know what I am talking about half the time (probably more to be honest and the older I get the less I know)
Slow, lumbering, casual, gives away too many turnovers in dangerous positions near his own goal.If we're comparing him to Van Dijk or Romero, no he's not as good as those (although this season neither Van Dijk or Romero have been that good either). You've got a lot of CBs in the top - Saliba, Gabriel, Dias, Ake, Stones, Varane, Martinez, Botman - who have ups and downs too, and I'd argue at the end of last season Dier more than suited a top four team, cos he literally did. I'm not arguing he's Beckenbauer: I'm suggesting that when you see the nightmares the likes of Koulibaly have had this season maybe it's not so easy to fix. He's a good lad with a good head on his shoulders and good ability, which Conte and Mourinho agreed upon: we've got far, far worse problems than a player who makes mistakes but is unquestionably committed.
Nothing against him at all but it really is time now to move on. He flip flops between OK and dreadful and that just isn't good enough for where we want to be. I think coaching has a fair bit to do with it as well, and playing non possession football puts so much pressure on, and when confidence drops it invites problems. As an aside, all of our CBs also seem to be obsessed with keeping their hands behind their back to a point where they rarely get a block in. What's that about?
I don't mind them leaving tooWhy would I talk to a statistic?
Defend as a team. He’s made mistakes that have led to goals but so have Romero and Porro. Lloris has made more than anyone in the league.