Eric Dier

[BringBack_leGin]

Aurier, lucas, Dele, davies also start/started more or less every game, but that doesn't mean people can't critique their performance.

I’d not dream of suggesting absolving any player of criticism, but with this particular player there is clear confirmation bias at play.

The guy played well and his positioning was textbook for the incident in question. He can’t help it that there just so happened to be players in the opposition side who in that instance also did their job as well as possible.

 

[Mark_147]

I’d not dream of suggesting absolving any player of criticism, but with this particular player there is clear confirmation bias at play.

The guy played well and his positioning was textbook for the incident in question. He can’t help it that there just so happened to be players in the opposition side who in that instance also did their job as well as possible.

It's funny you mention his positioning not that i am questioning it, but I was watching ally golds update yesterday and he was questioning why did Dier have his back turned to Carroll and this needed further analysis. He was not blaming Dier for the handball.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

It's funny you mention his positioning not that i am questioning it, but I was watching ally golds update yesterday and he was questioning why did Dier have his back turned to Carroll and this needed further analysis. He was not blaming Dier for the handball.

Wasn’t targeted at you, just at the rhetoric in here.

If Dier, or most any centre back, tries to outreach a high ball v a Carroll, they will lose and Carroll will win it anyway. Dier was trying to win there ball before it reached Carroll but either because of the push or it merely being too high/fast, was unable to. However, he clearly did enough to prevent Carroll heading there ball across into the area because it hit the back of him, and sometimes distracting the target of the cross is enough. That it hit the back of his arm is pure shit luck.

Worst thing Dier did v Newcastle was miss the chance he had to score, particularly as headers from set pieces is a strength of his.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

We need to end the topic now ,but if Dier has Carroll amd Lascalles standing behind him there is no way in hell he’ll get to a cross before Carroll. He would need some momentum by a bit of a run to help him spring.That would involve him being a bit behind Carroll.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

We need to end the topic now ,but if Dier has Carroll amd Lascalles standing behind him there is no way in hell he’ll get to a cross before Carroll. He would need some momentum by a bit of a run to help him spring.That would involve him being a bit behind Carroll.

Why do we need to end it now? Seems like a Peter current and relevant discourse about there most recent performance by this threads target player, no?

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Stick to the same old methods without trying something different,that’s why we concede so many goals from set pieces.

So this is the key to defending set pieces?

 

[Timberwolf]

Dier just needs a hard AF Slovakian hitman next to him.

Put those 2 together and our backline suddenly looks like absolute meanest, ****iest pair of bouncers you could ever hope (not) to meet.

Absolutely no balls will be getting into Club Tottenham.

 

[Trix]

We need to end the topic now ,but if Dier has Carroll amd Lascalles standing behind him there is no way in hell he’ll get to a cross before Carroll. He would need some momentum by a bit of a run to help him spring.That would involve him being a bit behind Carroll.

Indeed he won't out jump him, but he still has to challenge it. Any sort of challenge may well be enough to stop the ball being directed where the attacker wants it to go. That's basic schoolboy stuff. Never ever allow a free unchaleged header in the box.

 

[McFlash]

Why do we need to end it now? Seems like a Peter current and relevant discourse about there most recent performance by this threads target player, no?

We need to end it because someone made a daft comment about Dier needing to be behind Carroll, not in front, and he hasn't been able to dig himself out of that hole!
??

 

[spursfast]

Wasn’t targeted at you, just at the rhetoric in here.

If Dier, or most any centre back, tries to outreach a high ball v a Carroll, they will lose and Carroll will win it anyway. Dier was trying to win there ball before it reached Carroll but either because of the push or it merely being too high/fast, was unable to. However, he clearly did enough to prevent Carroll heading there ball across into the area because it hit the back of him, and sometimes distracting the target of the cross is enough. That it hit the back of his arm is pure shit luck.

Worst thing Dier did v Newcastle was miss the chance he had to score, particularly as headers from set pieces is a strength of his.

..."back of his arm is pure shit luck... his arms were up and above his head, so if the ball hits the back of his arm... more likely I would've thought

 

[BringBack_leGin]

..."back of his arm is pure shit luck... his arms were up and above his head, so if the ball hits the back of his arm... more likely I would've thought

So you’re saying that the back of his arm has a greater surface area than his entire head and back?

That’s some severe dedication to arms day at the gym ?

 

[spursfast]

So you’re saying that the back of his arm has a greater surface area than his entire head and back?

That’s some severe dedication to arms day at the gym ?

he was just waving his arms about ... that's it , the rest is history

 

[BringBack_leGin]

he was just waving his arms about ... that's it , the rest is history

No he wasn’t. His arms went up, his arms went down, because he was trying to get full leverage to attack a cross ahead of a dangerous header of three ball, and all three while being pushed in the back by another player. No waving took place whatsoever. He was unlucky that there ball hit the back of his arm, having successfully caused Carroll to scuff the header right at him rather than across into the area as he would’ve intended. It was standard set piece defending. I know that doesn’t fit with the ‘Dier always has a mistake in him’ rhetoric in this thread, but that’s by the by.

This is waving arms in the air:

 

[spursfast]

No he wasn’t. His arms went up, his arms went down, because he was trying to get full leverage to attack a cross ahead of a dangerous header of three ball, and all three while being pushed in the back by another player. No waving took place whatsoever. He was unlucky that there ball hit the back of his arm, having successfully caused Carroll to scuff the header right at him rather than across into the area as he would’ve intended. It was standard set piece defending. I know that doesn’t fit with the ‘Dier always has a mistake in him’ rhetoric in this thread, but that’s by the by.

This is waving arms in the air:

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but he knew the rule , why then even if it a stupid rule bend it

 

[Bobby TwoShots]

but he knew the rule , why then even if it a stupid rule bend it

1. You can't jump without using your arms. 2. Lascelles pushed him in the back.
If you want to have a pop at Dier, just find a different reason. This wasn't on him.

 

[Nine while nine]

 

[Montalbano]

 

[TheCheeseRoom]

Credit where credits due.

Anyone who’s had a dodgy stomach when you’re exercising knows how uncomfortable he must’ve been there.

But also to show character to stand up and take a first penalty after the shitshow at the weekend.

Well played Eric.

 

[Nebby]

Excellent tonight. Loved to see him carry the ball forward too.

 

[karennina]

He shits when he wants!