Daniel Levy has offered his own idea: the WSL should become closed competition without promotion or relegation.

[C1w8]

Spurs are doing a double header for the Brentford Game with the ladies match following the mens game. I wonder how many people will stay for the ladies game, probably a good number i guess.

It is hard enough to compete with the super clubs (city etc) as it is but it will become even harder when the ladies get their "equal" pay. Normal clubs like Spurs will suffer as it will mean money taken from the mens turnover used to supplement the ladies. This will create a greater divide between the super clubs and normal clubs. The ladies wages should be based on the turnover they generate, if it is less, they should get less, likewise, if they generate more money than men, then they should earn more.

The whole point is to invest in the womens game so that it will in time pay for itself, and become it's own source of profit, the same way we have invested in the mens game. The stadium wasnt built using money the club had generated, the only way we were able to do that is to take massive loans so that we could build a stadium and pay our players at the same time.

I dont follow the game particularly but i can see why we should be investing in it as the growth potential is huge.

 

[DJS]

Don't Care. I don't follow Women's football, it has as much bearing to me as county cricket, couldn't give a fuck.

And I'm a bit bored of women's football being shoved down my throat tbh.

Bored that it seems every match on TV has to have a woman commentator/pundit/analyst.

I’d rather a female pundit over Gary Neville.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Spurs are doing a double header for the Brentford Game with the ladies match following the mens game. I wonder how many people will stay for the ladies game, probably a good number i guess.

It is hard enough to compete with the super clubs (city etc) as it is but it will become even harder when the ladies get their "equal" pay. Normal clubs like Spurs will suffer as it will mean money taken from the mens turnover used to supplement the ladies. This will create a greater divide between the super clubs and normal clubs. The ladies wages should be based on the turnover they generate, if it is less, they should get less, likewise, if they generate more money than men, then they should earn more.

Fully agree.

I can never work out why women tennis player are payed the same as the men, they don't even play the same amount of sets!

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Then don't derail the debate with casual sexism.

Utter bollocks, how is that sexism? Just because I don't like or follow the women's game of football, and I don't like the way that, all of a sudden, there HAS to be a woman involved in every TV game

 

[cliff jones]

Spurs are doing a double header for the Brentford Game with the ladies match following the mens game. I wonder how many people will stay for the ladies game, probably a good number i guess.

It is hard enough to compete with the super clubs (city etc) as it is but it will become even harder when the ladies get their "equal" pay. Normal clubs like Spurs will suffer as it will mean money taken from the mens turnover used to supplement the ladies. This will create a greater divide between the super clubs and normal clubs. The ladies wages should be based on the turnover they generate, if it is less, they should get less, likewise, if they generate more money than men, then they should earn more.

the double-header idea is great, but hard to de-couple the revenue between the two matches- your other point.

For those who like a pint or two on matchday, it could be quite an afternoon

 

[HodisGawd]

Utter bollocks, how is that sexism? Just because I don't like or follow the women's game of football, and I don't like the way that, all of a sudden, there HAS to be a woman involved in every TV game

It's 2023, not 1953. You shouldn't need to ask that question.

 

[faymantaray]

Don't Care. I don't follow Women's football, it has as much bearing to me as county cricket, couldn't give a fuck.

And I'm a bit bored of women's football being shoved down my throat tbh.

Bored that it seems every match on TV has to have a woman commentator/pundit/analyst.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

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Except I'm 48. )

 

[faymantaray]

Tbf the women pundits are a lot better than the majority of male pundits.

Exactly. Much prefer the female pundits/commentators to the brain dead and totally biased male ex-players.

 

[Chimbo!]

I see the spurs women play in the same style as the men’s: defend deep and just hope for the best.

 

[HedgieSpur]

Why are you in this thread then? Bizarre

Because like all bigots, rather than simply avoid the things/people they have an irrational dislike of, they actively seek them out to tell them how much they dislike/don't care about them....

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Because like all bigots, rather than simply avoid the things/people they have an irrational dislike of, they actively seek them out to tell them how much they dislike/don't care about them....

Don't accuse me of being a bigot when I'm not. You don't know me. As I said it's a forum, and I just don't care for the women's game of football. I don't particularly like cricket, rugby (either sex) that doesn't make me a bigot. If I constantly went on about it in every thread, then maybe you could suggest it, but I don't. I wouldn't call you a Dick, because I do not know you. Don't throw round words like that, when you can't back them up as that's slander.

 

[HodisGawd]

Don't accuse me of being a bigot when I'm not. You don't know me. As I said it's a forum, and I just don't care for the women's game of football. I don't particularly like cricket, rugby (either sex) that doesn't make me a bigot. If I constantly went on about it in every thread, then maybe you could suggest it, but I don't. I wouldn't call you a Dick, because I do not know you. Don't throw round words like that, when you can't back them up as that's slander.

You said: "I prefer the men to commentate/pundit on our game."

Was there a reason you prefer to exclude women other than bigotry?

For reference, the Oxford definition of bigotry is: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

You said: "I prefer the men to commentate/pundit on our game."

Was there a reason you prefer to exclude women other than bigotry?

For reference, the Oxford definition of bigotry is: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Unreasonable attachment to a belief....
Mine isn't unreasonable.

 

[HodisGawd]

Unreasonable attachment to a belief....
Mine isn't unreasonable.

It is unreasonable, because you can't give a reason.

 

[ultimateloner]

Because there was no pundits, now almost every game has a female commentator in some capacity. I prefer the men to commentate/pundit on our game, and the woman can do theirs.

I think there is a strategic need to mix it up across the different supporting roles between men/women football.

Men's football is more developed with a bigger audience. It helps the women's game to give them some exposure to a bigger stage; so they can take it back to their own game. Then a gifted woman would end up 'giving back' to the men's game in some shape or another, because she's better than her male counterpart.

Mixing up comes at a relatively small cost with lots of potential so probably worth doing.

 

[Dougal]

Don't Care. I don't follow Women's football, it has as much bearing to me as county cricket, couldn't give a fuck.

And I'm a bit bored of women's football being shoved down my throat tbh.

Bored that it seems every match on TV has to have a woman commentator/pundit/analyst.

I feel that way about the men’s game most weeks.

Also, male or female, anyone who wants to be a commentator is a bit odd.

 

[bobbof]

The problem with womens football is that the average woman can’t be arsed to watch it. It isn’t mens responsibility to fund it if we don’t particulary enjoy to watch it ourselves. They have to have an appeal to the audience if they want equal pay. Maybe creating a «super league» for womens football is exactly what is needed to get that appeal.

And yeah, of course it’s bigotry to dislike a commentator just because she’s a woman. The ones they use tend to be more knowledgable than their male counterparts, so the reason boils down to the fact that they are a woman.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

I think there is a strategic need to mix it up across the different supporting roles between men/women football.

Men's football is more developed with a bigger audience. It helps the women's game to give them some exposure to a bigger stage; so they can take it back to their own game. Then a gifted woman would end up 'giving back' to the men's game in some shape or another, because she's better than her male counterpart.

Mixing up comes at a relatively small cost with lots of potential so probably worth doing.

Good point, well made.

 

[parj]

Utter bollocks, how is that sexism? Just because I don't like or follow the women's game of football, and I don't like the way that, all of a sudden, there HAS to be a woman involved in every TV game

You not following women football isn't a problem. It's your attitude to women commentators. Most of them are as good or better than their male counterparts.