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Isn’t it obvious from what Mou and Levy have said that if we can shift 2-4 players then we may buy at the right price..?
Far too ambiguous considering who it is we have to shift to the create cash/whatever else for them to spend.Isn’t it obvious from what Mou and Levy have said that if we can shift 2-4 players then we may buy at the right price..?
It’s ambiguous because so is our capacity to raise funds through sales. There are spending commitments made to banks that cannot be (easily) reneged on.Far too ambiguous considering who it is we have to shift to the create cash/whatever else for them to spend.
Dead wood and Levy losing his bollocks most when it came to cashing in on certain players to create dosh to re-invest.
Ok guys three things:
1. Squad isn’t good enough and is stale and that is mainly Levy an d recruitment teams fault.
2. Jose has taken over a team who were really struggling for form mid-season so in theory should be given some time BUT
3. Some already worrying signs about the football we are playing and how it will not stand us in good sted to win games and its also painful to watch
Its depressing that there are issues with the way the club run the football side of the business but also worrying signals about the new manager we’ve just brought in, sure time and patience in Jose are needed but it’s the lack of faith in Levy and the player recruitment to suit a manager and plan which is a fundamental huge issue and has been for the past 20 years under Levy.
Agree with all of that mate but we need to step it up to sort out what is now verging on a mid-table unbalanced squad.our player recruitment has been a lot longer than 20 years. since winning the FA Cup and the intro of the PL, & CL at a time we were heading in the wrong direction financially. the position we are in now no one would have dreamed we'd be even close to in the 90's.
Our recruitment slowed down once the stadium was agreed
It’s ambiguous because so is our capacity to raise funds through sales. There are spending commitments made to banks that cannot be (easily) reneged on.
We could raise anywhere between €2m - €30m+ through player loans/sales this January. Then factor in whether there are deals to be had. If Koulibaly is only going for €70m then it doesn’t matter how much we raise through sales - he ain’t coming.
However if Upamecano (younger) is available at €50m and we raise half of that from shifting deadwood then we may feel it is worth it.
There are lots of (reasonable) variables to this.
As a final point, the Lo Celso loan to buy deal was seen as favourable to Betis as a way to get around the sell on fee to PSG. That is true but it is also favourable to us as it allows us to smooth spending. We could activate Lo Celso in January for less money if no deals come up, allowing us to spend more in the summer (new financial year). Alternatively the Lo Celso cost could be borne at the end of the shoulder allowing us to spend a bit more now.
If I were to guess I would say the big spend will come in the summer as we will raise a disappointing amount of money from sales in January ..
Agree with all of that mate but we need to step it up to sort out what is now verging on a mid-table unbalanced squad.
According to Levy in the article it’s both. He says...I don't believe it's a case of needing to sell to buy on the finances side. It's the need to sell to have space in the squad for the new players. by the sounds of info we got during the drought window was Levy doesn't want to be paying 3-4 players wages when they can't contribute and earn their wages (even though at the moment we are paying 4 or 5 players every week for doing diddly squat when on the field).
none of us know how much the club can pay all it's whole club staff and what affects it has on what we can offer the next signing. I believe when you do a transfer you need to finance that through the banks, yet we as fans don't know what extra finance they will allow us.
we really need to get rid of the deadwood, and players that are no longer good enough and at the moment a few too many
I've long thought the issue isn't so much the sale price as other clubs being willing to spend the wages the likes of Rose, Aurier, Jan etc all now believe they are worth.It is time for Levy to go against all his nature and sell some of these players for less money than HE considers their worth .
This is the only way to open up space for incomings .
IIRC, we accepted offers for Eriksen (Man Utd), Rose (Watford) and Wanyama (Brugge?) and they all turned the moves down.I've long thought the issue isn't so much the sale price as other clubs being willing to spend the wages the likes of Rose, Aurier, Jan etc all now believe they are worth.
Getting players who are on the slide to go to (for example) Crystal Palace and maybe £30k a week less is a bit of a challenge - or (as Rose himself recently said) he can stay here and keep the cash rolling in.
I'm not sure what the answer is and I think the recent rise of player power - Rose and Eriksen at us, Ramsay at Arsenal have made life even more difficult. That coupled with the inflation in prices for players who'd genuinely improve us make things really difficult.
As I say, I don't know what the answer is but I cannot see us buying a new LB on 100k/week and also paying Rose 80k/week (or whatever he is on) to train with the kids.
Most people on this site seem to believe we need a new LB, RB, CB, CDM, RW and backup striker as well as probably new GK so I'm struggling how we do that without getting some of the current crop to go elsewhere.
I'm confused - is that the fault of Levy or Poch?IIRC, we accepted offers for Eriksen (Man Utd), Rose (Watford) and Wanyama (Brugge?) and they all turned the moves down.
Yea very true mate, this was the issue for the last few windows that we’ve not been able to sell the deadwood and free up squad places. Once we do that we hopefully can buy the quality we need.I don't believe it's a case of needing to sell to buy on the finances side. It's the need to sell to have space in the squad for the new players. by the sounds of info we got during the drought window was Levy doesn't want to be paying 3-4 players wages when they can't contribute and earn their wages (even though at the moment we are paying 4 or 5 players every week for doing diddly squat when on the field).
none of us know how much the club can pay all it's whole club staff and what affects it has on what we can offer the next signing. I believe when you do a transfer you need to finance that through the banks, yet we as fans don't know what extra finance they will allow us.
we really need to get rid of the deadwood, and players that are no longer good enough and at the moment a few too many
yes we do, but as said above until we can get rid, we won't be going on any spending spree.
at the moment we have a squad of 24 players, so at the moment we only have room for 1 more player
We must be the only team in the history of the sport who always seems to have to sell before we can buy!
There is only one Daniel Levy.We must be the only team in the history of the sport who always seems to have to sell before we can buy!
"It doesn’t frighten us."... what a &*#%^ #%^&". And the correct thing to say is "If you compare us to most other clubs", not certain other clubs going on our net spend really the last 5 - 6 years.According to Levy in the article it’s both. He says...
«The problem is it is also about squad size, English versus non-English, because we have the homegrown rule in the Premier League »
and he says
«There is an amount we have allocated to spend each year in terms of net investment in the team. If you compare us to certain other clubs, they will have more money to spend. It doesn’t frighten us. »