Aurier: PSG 'did not respect true worth'

[Tiberius Gracchus]

Yes good idea, persecute the man before reading the article. I really hope you are not working in law enforcement or in the justice system

I feel I caveated it sufficiently by pointing out that as I'd not read the article, this was my initial reaction. I feel I caveated it further by arguing that anything this guy says will be twisted and misinterpreted beyond all recognition by any journalist looking for a story. So what I am essentially saying is that i hope he hasn't done this; but regardless, the papers will give him bad write ups anyway. You can't win against the british press

Hardly persecuting the chap

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Some people aren't reading the article, they're reading the headline, which has been phrased to cause trouble. It's not about money. He's unhappy that PSG focused on his off-field activities, instead of on what he contributed in footballing terms.

It's a slightly vague accusation he's making, but between his approximate English and Sky's mischievous editing, I don't think there's much we can do to clarify it. He wasn't happy there and didn't feel supported by the club. Fair enough.

 

[guiltyparty]

I don't have a problem with anything in the article, really. Not sure why anyone does.

The wonders of Different Opinions

 

[guiltyparty]

Some people aren't reading the article, they're reading the headline, which has been phrased to cause trouble. It's not about money. He's unhappy that PSG focused on his off-field activities, instead of on what he contributed in footballing terms.

It's a slightly vague accusation he's making, but between his approximate English and Sky's mischievous editing, I don't think there's much we can do to clarify it. He wasn't happy there and didn't feel supported by the club. Fair enough.

I read the article and I don't agree. Not that bothered, if he's good we'll all sing, but already finding it funny that people are defending the defenceless with this guy. People seem so desperate for him to be ok and not a bad 'un

If you've seen his comments on his former boss, at the time of being managed by him, I really have little sympathy for him and his situation at PSG. He was horrendously offensive and from what Blanc said, showed absolutely no genuine remorse or attempt to make good for it other than a PR statement. If it had been at Spurs, we'd be cheering Poch on to get rid.

These comments suggests he thinks he did nothing wrong. His off the field stuff was fairly dramatic so I've seen no argument why it shouldn't have been focused on? Being arrested, calling your manager a faggot to the world, as well as dogging off individual members of the team publicly? It's not just missing a training session is it?

Anyway, parking it now, but bless those defending poor Serge, treated so badly by PSG for absolutely no reason at all One of these days a footballer will take responsibility for their actions and then the world will die with shock

Spurs is supposed to be a second chance, not a soap box to dog off your ex employer who was so alarmed at your behaviour that they got shot of the "most influential defender in Ligue 1" on the cheap just to not have to deal with his shit anymore

 

[shelfmonkey]

I read the article and I don't agree. Not that bothered, if he's good we'll all sing, but already finding it funny that people are defending the defenceless with this guy. People seem so desperate for him to be ok and not a bad 'un

If you've seen his comments on his former boss, at the time of being managed by him, I really have little sympathy for him and his situation at PSG. He was horrendously offensive and from what Blanc said, showed absolutely no remorse or attempt to make good for it. If it had been at Spurs, we'd be cheering Poch on to get rid.

These comments suggests he thinks he did nothing wrong. His off the field stuff was fairly dramatic so I've seen no argument why it shouldn't have been focused on? Being arrested, calling your manager a faggot to the world, as well as dogging off individual members of the team publicly? It's not just missing a training session is it?

Anyway, parking it now, but bless those defending poor Serge, treated so badly by PSG for absolutely no reason at all One of these days a footballer will take responsibility for their actions and then the world will die with shock

Spurs is supposed to be a second chance, not a soap box to dog off your ex employer who was so alarmed at your behaviour that they got shot of the "most influential defender in Ligue 1" on the cheap just to not have to deal with his shit anymore

Chill dude, he's got daddy Poch looking after him now.

 

[double0]

I read the article and I don't agree. Not that bothered, if he's good we'll all sing, but already finding it funny that people are defending the defenceless with this guy. People seem so desperate for him to be ok and not a bad 'un

If you've seen his comments on his former boss, at the time of being managed by him, I really have little sympathy for him and his situation at PSG. He was horrendously offensive and from what Blanc said, showed absolutely no remorse or attempt to make good for it. If it had been at Spurs, we'd be cheering Poch on to get rid.

These comments suggests he thinks he did nothing wrong. His off the field stuff was fairly dramatic so I've seen no argument why it shouldn't have been focused on? Being arrested, calling your manager a faggot to the world, as well as dogging off individual members of the team publicly? It's not just missing a training session is it?

Anyway, parking it now, but bless those defending poor Serge, treated so badly by PSG for absolutely no reason at all One of these days a footballer will take responsibility for their actions and then the world will die with shock

Spurs is supposed to be a second chance, not a soap box to dog off your ex employer who was so alarmed at your behaviour that they got shot of the "most influential defender in Ligue 1" on the cheap just to not have to deal with his shit anymore

Ok so you tell us what he did wrong.

It comes across in the way you have worded things that Aurier should just not answer questions, (that might be part of his contract) just be quiet head down repent and do talking on the pitch.

Ashley Cole did the same kept quiet never really heard him speak to the press tried to let football do his talking Imo Englands best ever left back but was never allowed too , the media and public opinion was already set and he got murdered.

Before anyone has a go at Aurier for speaking remember Spurs went for him knowing his character and past issues ..which to my knowledge he has been cleared of and given a visa to apply his trade here.

 

[Tiberius Gracchus]

Ok so you tell us what he did wrong.

It comes across in the way you have worded things that Aurier should just not answer questions, (that might be part of his contract) just be quiet head down repent and do talking on the pitch.

Ashley Cole did the same kept quiet never really heard him speak to the press tried to let football do his talking Imo Englands best ever left back but was never allowed too , the media and public opinion was already set and he got murdered.

Before anyone has a go at Aurier for speaking remember Spurs went for him knowing his character and past issues ..which to my knowledge he has been cleared of and given a visa to apply his trade here.

I think it's the massive homophobia and open disrespect of manager and team mate that people have issues with, just as much as the police officer incident. But Iet's be charitable and put it down to being a young idiot, and hope he's a reformed character

 

[guiltyparty]

Ok so you tell us what he did wrong.

It comes across in the way you have worded things that Aurier should just not answer questions, (that might be part of his contract) just be quiet head down repent and do talking on the pitch.

Ashley Cole did the same kept quiet never really heard him speak to the press tried to let football do his talking Imo Englands best ever left back but was never allowed too , the media and public opinion was already set and he got murdered.

Before anyone has a go at Aurier for speaking remember Spurs went for him knowing his character and past issues ..which to my knowledge he has been cleared of and given a visa to apply his trade here.

Cole was a very good player but still shooting trainees with air rifles at the age of 30. The guys a fucking idiot, whatever the media's attitude towards him was. He had rough treatment but he made it fairly easy for them.

As for Aurier, this was Blanc after Serge called him a "faggot" and insulted Zlatan, the club's star player, in a live Q&A:

“How did I react? Very badly. Very badly. Because we think whatever we like – this is a democracy and we are free to think about things, have our opinions – but that boy …
Two years ago, I committed myself to bring him to Paris, so to see what I saw yesterday … that’s the thanks I get? It’s pitiful. I won’t say more because I’m here to talk about the game, a very important match, but he has penalised himself. He should have been preparing for a last-16 round game in the Champions League. That would have been better than staying at home not knowing what to do with himself. It’s bad for him but what I won’t accept is that he’s damaged the club. The player is a big boy. He can do what he wants and handle the consequences but he has penalised the club: through the image he’s put out there and what he said. I know this new generation of players and many of them spend their time feeling sorry for themselves and apologising for things they’ve done – but perhaps they should be thinking about what they’re saying rather than looking to apologise.”

Couldn't put it better myself.

Aurier in February last year did actually apologise:

"I made a big mistake, I am here to say sorry to the coach, the club and my team-mates, and to the supporters because they are the most important people. I want to apologise especially to the coach; I can only thank him for all he has done for me since I arrived in Paris. He wanted me and since I came here everything has gone really well … I owe him a lot and that is why I apologise sincerely to him for what was said, which I deeply regret. I will accept any sanction the club impose on me regarding this incident. I made a mistake, it was unforgivable and I am ready to face all the consequences.”

Three months later he was arrested.

Four months after that he was given a two month jail sentence

A year later and they're not respecting him, not appreciating his worth. I wonder why?

 

[rupsmith]

Cole was a very good player but still shooting trainees with air rifles at the age of 30. The guys a fucking idiot, whatever the media's attitude towards him was. He had rough treatment but he made it fairly easy for them.

As for Aurier, this was Blanc after Serge called him a "faggot" and insulted Zlatan, the club's star player, in a live Q&A:

“How did I react? Very badly. Very badly. Because we think whatever we like – this is a democracy and we are free to think about things, have our opinions – but that boy …
Two years ago, I committed myself to bring him to Paris, so to see what I saw yesterday … that’s the thanks I get? It’s pitiful. I won’t say more because I’m here to talk about the game, a very important match, but he has penalised himself. He should have been preparing for a last-16 round game in the Champions League. That would have been better than staying at home not knowing what to do with himself. It’s bad for him but what I won’t accept is that he’s damaged the club. The player is a big boy. He can do what he wants and handle the consequences but he has penalised the club: through the image he’s put out there and what he said. I know this new generation of players and many of them spend their time feeling sorry for themselves and apologising for things they’ve done – but perhaps they should be thinking about what they’re saying rather than looking to apologise.”

Couldn't put it better myself.

Aurier in February last year did actually apologise:

"I made a big mistake, I am here to say sorry to the coach, the club and my team-mates, and to the supporters because they are the most important people. I want to apologise especially to the coach; I can only thank him for all he has done for me since I arrived in Paris. He wanted me and since I came here everything has gone really well … I owe him a lot and that is why I apologise sincerely to him for what was said, which I deeply regret. I will accept any sanction the club impose on me regarding this incident. I made a mistake, it was unforgivable and I am ready to face all the consequences.”

Three months later he was arrested.

Four months after that he was given a two month jail sentence

A year later and they're not respecting him, not appreciating his worth. I wonder why?

Hmm - well researched. Thank you sir.

Have a lot of faith in Mr. Levy though and Poch's sense of discipline. Let's see - may be a rough diamond/gem etc.

 

[db1]

He's getting all this stick yet Alonso drink drove and killed a girl and got a fine (wow, must have hurt him) but I don't see him getting sh*t from the press. As long as he tries his best for Spurs, I'm certainly not gonna bitch and moan about him being a very silly boy.

 

[Sir Henry]

I think it's the massive homophobia and open disrespect of manager and team mate that people have issues with, just as much as the police officer incident. But Iet's be charitable and put it down to being a young idiot, and hope he's a reformed character

massive homophobia ? he said one word.

 

[Shadydan]

He's getting all this stick yet Alonso drink drove and killed a girl and got a fine (wow, must have hurt him) but I don't see him getting sh*t from the press. As long as he tries his best for Spurs, I'm certainly not gonna bitch and moan about him being a very silly boy.

That's because the racial undertones and the perception of black or ethnic footballers compared to white couldn't be anymore different...but that's for another thread.

 

[guiltyparty]

He's getting all this stick yet Alonso drink drove and killed a girl and got a fine (wow, must have hurt him) but I don't see him getting sh*t from the press. As long as he tries his best for Spurs, I'm certainly not gonna bitch and moan about him being a very silly boy.

I don't see Aurier getting shit from the press – he walked into a journo trap. It's not a particularly critical article on him, it just lays out what he said with the obvious juicy bit as the headline.

He's 'getting shit' on a football forum, and it's just what fans do - discuss this stuff. I wouldn't say it's 'shit', it's acknowledging his past as context for his present comments. Everything is context.

I want the guy to do well, he looks a monster on the pitch, but I'm not going to have people preaching to me about how he's been misunderstood and we should all forget his past. He needs to do that first and realise he fucked up at PSG, he wasn't wronged. The lack of responsibility there is baffling.

Cut him some slack? Sure. But it will be revealing if he's going to keep scratching that itch in interviews as any sensible person would steer well clear of the PSG stuff, as he was very much in the wrong.

The police stuff, actually, is far less cut and dried. And I'd argue his history of slagging off his manager and team mates is more pertinent than a run in with a French copper which sounds like 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

I don't get the equivalence with Alonso at all, seems an entirely different situation. I've never seen Alonso mouth off to the press about the incident – indeed, I can find very few interviews with him at all online, happy to be enlightened – presumably because he's absolutely devastated. The girl who died was a passenger, not some random he knocked over (not that that would make it better, but it IS different).

And for those who say 'get over it' for Aurier, Alonso had his day in court, and it was six years ago, not last season, and he doesn't even play for us so is of no concern (although I happen to agree he got off very lightly indeed).

 

[guiltyparty]

That's because the racial undertones and the perception of black or ethnic footballers compared to white couldn't be anymore different...but that's for another thread.

I don't disagree. But whether it was homophobic or just a throwaway 'gag', its moot really. I would suggest that if he said Poch and Kane were fucking and that's the only reason Kane gets picked in a fan Q&A, it wouldn't go down too well.

I can't believe I just typed that.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I'll wait to let his football do the talking.

 

[Shadydan]

I don't disagree. But whether it was homophobic or just a throwaway 'gag', its moot really. I would suggest that if he said Poch and Kane were fucking and that's the only reason Kane gets picked in a fan Q&A, it wouldn't go down too well.

I can't believe I just typed that.

Probably but he hasn't said that so that's neither here nor there...think it's time to move on from what he said personally...he's young, he apologised so that's good enough for me.

 

[WhiteHeartLowe]

Did you forget Walker leaving for money and Rose kicking up a fuss in between or is it just because he's African does he become mk II?

Strewth, actually, it was just a joke

 

[thelak]

Some context needed. He's just left a club that has signed Neymar for a club that could never dream of making such a signing.

He's putting into context the push and pull factors of such a move pretty clearly on both sides

If all had been right at PSG we would not be in a position to sign this guy

Would it be easier if he said nothing about reasons for leaving and just good things about his new employers - sure but he's still respectful about PSG too

 

[Tiberius Gracchus]

massive homophobia ? he said one word.

Going by what I read, he said something along the lines of: "Blanc? He's a faggot. He takes cock. He takes so much cock he takes ball and everything else".

Then in a separate interview when asked who the better keeper was out of two PSG keepers, he picked one on the basis that "the other one is gay".

Now I'm not gay myself, and I'm not one of these types who goes around deliberately being offended by everything people say. And I don't believe in 'safe spaces' or curtailing free speech. But you don't need to be a snowflake in order to find that offensive, and I'm sure there are plenty of Spurs fans, gay or otherwise, who would find these words unsavoury.

But as I posted above, let's put it down to being young and foolish and give him the benefit of the doubt as a Spurs player who says he's seen the error of his ways and is trying to improve himself and focus on football

My fear with him is that anything he says will be twisted and misinterpreted so he'll need the club to protect him from journalists trying to trick him in to saying something stupid

 

[double0]

massive homophobia ? he said one word.

I tell you the world's gone mad.