Antonio Nusa

[Fergus]

Just spotted 2 recent instances of neg rep for ITKs in this thread. What is wrong with some people?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Just spotted 2 recent instances of neg rep for ITKs in this thread. What is wrong with some people?

My guess is it's not deliberate - when I get them, it tends to be for something totally random (that would be unlikely to warrant much response, let alone a neg rep) and I decide that (1) it might be accidental, and (2) even if it's not, it's an internet message board about a football team and as a grown adult, really isn't worth worrying about for myself, let alone anyone else.

I wouldn't worry about it personally

 

[Tractorspur]

Might be wrong but it could be the scrolling thumb issue. I do it all the time when I’m scrolling and then have to un-tap to remove the

it’s unfortunately placed on the right of the screen.

 

[StanSpur]

Ok so i will admit to having never heard of this kid. And so I did what not to do and just looked at a video of him. Wow. The amount of stellar clips for an 18 year old is pretty staggering, his ability to shift the ball and leave players is very exciting and his finishing, speed and awareness of players around him all look to be really good for his age. I'm jumping on this bandwagon and hope he is the heir to Sonny on that left. It could be seamless, sonny as the starting LW for the next 2-3 seasons with this kid as the rotation and impact role before he takes the starting birth and Sonny provides the experienced support for his final year before retirement in the USA. Bosh.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Not sure if it has been discussed in this thread (I can't see it being discussed), but the elephant in the room for me is whether Brugge need to sell this window.

If they don't need the cash this window, why would they not hold onto him until the summer, when he would probably be worth more and other clubs may have sorted their finances?

To my view, this is possibly the biggest road block to us signing him. If it doesn't happen this window, I am not sure we will be able to get it done in the summer with the additional possible competition in for him.

Maybe I am worrying unnecessarily.

Any posters that can clarify the above query about Brugge and their necessity to sell, would be greatly appreciated.

Edit. @Ghost Hardware may have answered as per below.

I think the only issue we could come up against is trying to convince them to let him leave this window. Both WLB and Trix mentioned that even tho originally we were happy with a loan back, after talking to him, Ange would quite like him to come now rather then in summer if possible. Even if we convince him to join now I think getting Brugge to agree will be tricky. We would probably have to up our offer and im not sure we would do that. Ether way im rather calm about him joining. There is no doubting he is a top talent and im sure a lot of teams would like him but spending 25/30 mil on an 18 year old is not something a lot of clubs can do or are prioritising at the moment plus if he has taken the Ange red pill then im sure like Radu he has his eye fixed on us.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

The only thing worse than people neg repping ITKs are the people who are like 'that's against the forum rules you should be banned' and then start a whole unnecessary discussion about neg repping for the umpteenth time.

It's so cringy - just let the Mods do their job, they can see the neg reps like you can and don't need to derail a thread to do something about it.

And if it is some sort of application to be a Mod one day, get in line, because everyone knows I'm the next A&C.

 

[Wig]

The only thing worse than people neg repping ITKs are the people who are like 'that's against the forum rules you should be banned' and then start a whole unnecessary discussion about neg repping for the umpteenth time.

It's so cringy - just let the Mods do their job, they can see the neg reps like you can and don't need to derail a thread to do something about it.

And if it is some sort of application to be a Mod one day, get in line, because everyone knows I'm the next A&C.

Blimey, it's like a shitter version of Succession.

 

[What Lies Beneath]

Pretty simple, I'll put my cojones on the line again and within 24hrs news breaks that we've agreed a deal

Put your balls away they have been through enough haha .

 

[aussiespursguy]

The only thing worse than people neg repping ITKs are the people who are like 'that's against the forum rules you should be banned' and then start a whole unnecessary discussion about neg repping for the umpteenth time.

It's so cringy - just let the Mods do their job, they can see the neg reps like you can and don't need to derail a thread to do something about it.

And if it is some sort of application to be a Mod one day, get in line, because everyone knows I'm the next A&C.

You must be named Laughlin?

 

[Basil Brush]

I think the only issue we could come up against is trying to convince them to let him leave this window. Both WLB and Trix mentioned that even tho originally we were happy with a loan back, after talking to him, Ange would quite like him to come now rather then in summer if possible. Even if we convince him to join now I think getting Brugge to agree will be tricky. We would probably have to up our offer and im not sure we would do that. Ether way im rather calm about him joining. There is no doubting he is a top talent and im sure a lot of teams would like him but spending 25/30 mil on an 18 year old is not something a lot of clubs can do or are prioritising at the moment plus if he has taken the Ange red pill then im sure like Radu he has his eye fixed on us.

Yeah it is an interesting dilemma for Brugge.

Do they hold him until the summer and hope to get more interest, and possibly more money for him?

Let's hope for our sake they are happy with whatever we offer, and whenever we offer it.

 

[MikeLondon]

Put your balls away they have been through enough haha .

Good Morning x

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Yeah it is an interesting dilemma for Brugge.

Do they hold him until the summer and hope to get more interest, and possibly more money for him?

Let's hope for our sake they are happy with whatever we offer, and whenever we offer it.

Unless we are completely low balling them , which doesn't seem to be the case if the press is right, or offering unfavourable add on's I really don't see them turning us down. Im sure they are trying to find someone to offer more but that is going to be very hard to find. For comparison the Belgian top 3 most expensive sales are De ketelaere at 21 for €36 mil to Milan, Jonathan David at 20 to Lille for €27 mil and Doku at 18 to Rennais for €26 mil so if the reported fee of €30 mil is to be believed he would go straight to number two in that list. Even If Brugge are one of the more financially secure clubs in the league that is a very large fee for an 18 year old. Plus im sure there will be a bunch of bonuses involved. And as i mentioned in the original post you quoted, there is no guarantee he will be worth more come summer if he hypothetically got injured or completely dropped in form. Yes it is unlikely but even so that is a lot of money to turn down and it would allow them to strengthen for the second half of the season.

 

[RJR1949]

Put your balls away they have been through enough haha .

Now that truly is inside knowledge!

 

[The Scarecrow]

Unless we are completely low balling them , which doesn't seem to be the case if the press is right, or offering unfavourable add on's I really don't see them turning us down. Im sure they are trying to find someone to offer more but that is going to be very hard to find. For comparison the Belgian top 3 most expensive sales are De ketelaere at 21 for €36 mil to Milan, Jonathan David at 20 to Lille for €27 mil and Doku at 18 to Rennais for €26 mil so if the reported fee of €30 mil is to be believed he would go straight to number two in that list. Even If Brugge are one of the more financially secure clubs in the league that is a very large fee for an 18 year old. Plus im sure there will be a bunch of bonuses involved. And as i mentioned in the original post you quoted, there is no guarantee he will be worth more come summer if he hypothetically got injured or completely dropped in form. Yes it is unlikely but even so that is a lot of money to turn down and it would allow them to strengthen for the second half of the season.

Brugge also weakens their position as a stepping stone club if they start playing hard ball.

 

[longtimespur]

I remember the Push-and-Run team of 1951.

Caught the end of them. Started going in 55

 

[GMI]

Put your balls away they have been through enough haha .

So H88’s balls should be literally What Lies Beneath…

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Found this interesting in the sensible transfers video from the Athletic. Snapshot of Nusa’s stats compared to wingers/attacking mids in the big 5 European Leagues, CL and Europa League. Very impressive how he compares.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I know some aren't interested in stats but for those who are, here is a comparison in terms of dribbling and ball carrying:

Brennan Johnson
Prog Carries: 3.23 48th percentile
Carries into Final Third: 1.31 9th percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 1.67 75th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 0.98 17th percentile

Heung-Min Son
Prog Carries: 2.53 28th percentile
Carries into Final Third: 1.57 16th percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 1.41 66th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 1.18 26th percentile

Timo Werner
Prog Carries: 3.44 53rd percentile
Carries into Final Third: 1.69 22nd percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 2.21 86th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 1.13 23rd percentile

Dejan Kulusevski
Prog Carries: 4.40 76th percentile
Carries into Final Third: 2.97 42nd percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 2.45 88th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 1.82 54th percentile


What this shows us is that none of our current wide options are particularly effective at beating their man and only Deki carries the ball upfield progressively for us. As you can see both Deki and Werner are pretty effective at carrying the ball in to the penalty area though they both struggle to beat their man in 1v1s.

As you can see from Nusa's stats, he is much more of a progressive ball carrier, 1v1 dribbler and wide threat.

 

[yido_number1]

I know some aren't interested in stats but for those who are, here is a comparison in terms of dribbling and ball carrying:

Brennan Johnson
Prog Carries: 3.23 48th percentile
Carries into Final Third: 1.31 9th percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 1.67 75th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 0.98 17th percentile

Heung-Min Son
Prog Carries: 2.53 28th percentile
Carries into Final Third: 1.57 16th percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 1.41 66th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 1.18 26th percentile

Timo Werner
Prog Carries: 3.44 53rd percentile
Carries into Final Third: 1.69 22nd percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 2.21 86th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 1.13 23rd percentile

Dejan Kulusevski
Prog Carries: 4.40 76th percentile
Carries into Final Third: 2.97 42nd percentile
Carries into Pen. Area: 2.45 88th percentile
Successful Take-ons: 1.82 54th percentile


What this shows us is that none of our current wide options are particularly effective at beating their man and only Deki carries the ball upfield progressively for us. As you can see both Deki and Werner are pretty effective at carrying the ball in to the penalty area though they both struggle to beat their man in 1v1s.

As you can see from Nusa's stats, he is much more of a progressive ball carrier, 1v1 dribbler and wide threat.

What this shows is that Nusa is good but also that he's playing in a weaker league.

Also we press teams and our wingers receive the ball higher up the pitch. Johnson had some really impressive stats due to counter attack last season. If you compare this year he's being asked to play a completely different game.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

What this shows is that Nusa is good but also that he's playing in a weaker league.

Also we press teams and our wingers receive the ball higher up the pitch. Johnson had some really impressive stats due to counter attack last season. If you compare this year he's being asked to play a completely different game.

Dribbling volume, success rate, carries etc can often indicate a playing style and effectiveness level for an individual that could translate across teams. You can see from the take on numbers and success rates of our players that they simply aren't very good at beating their man and that's in a strong team like us who provide a lot of opportunities to run at fullbacks.

Nusa's dribbling and carrying numbers are so much higher that even taking in to account it's a weaker league, there is a very high chance that he is on a different level in these areas especially when you consider he is just 18. He's 4 years younger than the youngest player I mentioned for us on the list. Huge amount of room for growth.