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Tucker

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Seeing Sainz go about his business like this makes you question why on earth Ferrari are replacing him with Lewis Hamilton....
There have been more than enough occasions over the last few years where both Sainz and Leclerc have shown they can’t hack it when the pressure is on.

They’re good drivers capable of winning races, but that’s it imo.

Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger were both really good drivers, but as soon as Schumacher was available Ferrari ditched them like stones. Like Schumacher, Hamilton is a significant step up from both Sainz and Leclerc.
 

Glasseye

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I felt there was a clear lack of professional behaviour from the commentators today when Max went out, although I know it echoed a lot of what many of us are feeling there should be an element of neutrality in commentating this race.

Sainz currently not having a seat for next year at the moment is a definition of insanity, but am sure he will have one in one of the top cars next year, I reckon it will be likely at Mercedes but will he want to go there? On aside has anyone listened to the audio of Russell when he crashed, the sheer panic and I don't blame him calling for the red flag, I have read a lot that a VSC had the same impact and avoided a lot of restart confusion but they could of just ended the race.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Re: the commentators - there is a video showing the crowd at the race cheering when Max went out - and I don't think its really all anti-Max or anti-Red Bull - it was just a realization that this could be a decent race, instead of just Max pulling away at the front. I suspect the commentators have been wishing for a new storyline to develop - just to avoid repeating the same stuff week after week.
 

Glasseye

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Re: the commentators - there is a video showing the crowd at the race cheering when Max went out - and I don't think its really all anti-Max or anti-Red Bull - it was just a realization that this could be a decent race, instead of just Max pulling away at the front. I suspect the commentators have been wishing for a new storyline to develop - just to avoid repeating the same stuff week after week.

Yes realise that could be so, and I think that every F1 fan thought that, just felt a bit like watching Neville or Carragher commentating on Manchester United and Liverpool
 

Trent Crimm

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Yes realise that could be so, and I think that every F1 fan thought that, just felt a bit like watching Neville or Carragher commentating on Manchester United and Liverpool

Nothing like carragher and Neville. Brundle and the fat bloke are unbiased. Think they were surprised (amazed) that the usually bulletproof RB finally snapped.

if I’m wrong that’s also okay. Maybe they think Redbull are a bunch of bullying arrogant pricks as well 😂 and it couldn’t happen to a nicer team.
 

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Looking at the Red Bull situation from another direction, that was a brand new "power unit" or whatever they call it - no idea why engine is suddenly insufficient, and they did take it all rather calmly. Didn't have any tantrum on the radio from Max, nobody in the pits seemed particularly bothered and I suspect that's because they know, even if they do drop a few points, that car with Max in it is going to walk the championship again.

In fact, getting his car back in the garage early meant they had just a bit longer to tinker with it, find the problem and fix it for the next race.

Ferrari did look good though. It's the stripes, has to be.
 

Dirty Ewok

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Looking at the Red Bull situation from another direction, that was a brand new "power unit" or whatever they call it - no idea why engine is suddenly insufficient, and they did take it all rather calmly. Didn't have any tantrum on the radio from Max, nobody in the pits seemed particularly bothered and I suspect that's because they know, even if they do drop a few points, that car with Max in it is going to walk the championship again.

In fact, getting his car back in the garage early meant they had just a bit longer to tinker with it, find the problem and fix it for the next race.

Ferrari did look good though. It's the stripes, has to be.

Pretty sure it wasn't the power unit. I think Max explained that it was the right rear brake got stuck and was the equivalent of driving with the emergency brake on. The brake caught fire and melted the tire and the linkage so they retired the car.

Hamilton's Merc had the power unit failure i believe. They didn't seem particularly happy and seemed even unhappier (understandably) after the Russell incident.
 

Trent Crimm

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Pretty sure it wasn't the power unit. I think Max explained that it was the right rear brake got stuck and was the equivalent of driving with the emergency brake on. The brake caught fire and melted the tire and the linkage so they retired the car.

Hamilton's Merc had the power unit failure i believe. They didn't seem particularly happy and seemed even unhappier (understandably) after the Russell incident.

Yeah. Was brake not engine.
 

McArchibald

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Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger were both really good drivers, but as soon as Schumacher was available Ferrari ditched them like stones. Like Schumacher, Hamilton is a significant step up from both Sainz and Leclerc.
If he can get back into the zone - but realistically, you'd have to doubt that he'll be able to.
He's been putting in a string of very indifferent performances over the past 2 seasons, peppered with complaints about strategy calls -which he either is unable to overrule or is quick to disown - and seemingly unable to help iron out the manifold issues with the new Mercedes - in spite of his wealth of experience.
Of course a change of scene might do him the world of good and Ferrari seem well ahead of Mercedes in the race to catch Red Bull. It may well turn out to be a good move. But he could so easily be the next Vettel - a damp squib at Maranello. To replace Sainz with an out-of-sorts former champion on mega wages who'll be 40 by the time he embarks on this journey is a very risky move on the part of Ferrari, whichever way you look at it.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Ricciardo could be on the way out - according to a report in New Zealand that Liam Lawson is set to take over as soon as the Miami Grand Prix - if Ricciardo does not improve over the next two races - Japan and China.

New Zealand’s Liam Lawson could be in a fulltime Formula One seat as early as May, after Red Bull issued a warning to Daniel Ricciardo, who drives for their subsidiary team Racing Bulls.

The Herald understands Ricciardo has been given an ultimatum by Red Bull’s head of driver development, Dr Helmut Marko, a known admirer of Lawson’s.

Should Ricciardo fail to improve over the next two Grand Prix in Japan and China respectively, Red Bull will perform a swap that sees Lawson likely installed in the Racing Bulls seat for Miami and remain with the team for the rest of the season.


 

carmeldevil

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Apparently Liberty Media (owner of F1) bought MotoGP. But since today is April 1, I’m gonna wait till tomorrow and see if this is for real or they are being dicks about it. (I think it’s for real though).
 

Armstrong_11

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oh no... Williams again in the wall. hopefully, both cars are able to start the race. doesn't look at bad as Albon's.
 

Dirty Ewok

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oh no... Williams again in the wall. hopefully, both cars are able to start the race. doesn't look at bad as Albon's.

Interesting couple of tidbits after the crash....



Translated....
Interesting statement from Ralf Schumacher: “As you can hear, Logan Sargeant has a contract from race to race…

Wonder if Williams do the thing a smart team would do....
 

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I do feel sorry for the Williams drivers, regardless of opinions on Sargeant's talents. They have a stinker of a car there and both are trying their absolute best to try and get just a bit more out of the car so of course they're going to be ragging the shit out of it, which increases the risk of them having a mess.

It must be pretty soul destroying to work up to getting that seat, only to find out that the car isn't competitive and when you do push it hard it tends to hang you out to dry. Hard times.
 

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I know that the car is still a massive factor but watching FP1, Verstappen carries so much speed into corners, his braking is phenomenal, it really is.

Massive smile for Ayumu Iwasa as well, he must've been so pumped, team radio for him was special and it must've been great to drive next to Tsunoda.
 

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Norris and Piastri are really going about business in that McLaren. Talented drivers, a team that seems to work well with them and the car's looking in good shape.
 
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