Dashy
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Our case numbers down here are actually quite low.
As someone mentioned the odds of players catching it increase when players re enter training.
Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June
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Our case numbers down here are actually quite low.
As someone mentioned the odds of players catching it increase when players re enter training.
Well if the supporters of those teams facing relegation want to stop the games at neutral grounds they should all turn up wherever the game is going on. If they do that then there's a good chance those games will be abandon & if they do that enough times they'll have to abandon the whole idea of playing & they have to abandon the season.
spursfan77
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Looks like theres problems with neutral grounds...
If i was being made to leave my family and quarantine by myself so billionaire owners dont have to pay back tv money when it is unsafe to go back, i’d be upset too
It is the one area where we seem to be divergent from the other countries that are restarting, and to me is the only valid reason for sporting integrity being compromised (if they change subs rules, don't use VAR that is not really an issue with integrity per se), and some clubs rejecting the idea, but some clubs playing 15 at home, and another in danger of relegation only having played 13 is an issue.
Personally I don't think it is a deal breaker if it is a case of neutrlal grounds or nothing, the clubs will go with neutral, but I would think there would likely be some extra form of compensation agreed for relegated cubs, or hopefully not, but last case scenario, no clubs relegated
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But really will it be unsafe to go back in a month or so ?
Many places will be back up and running by then, and these guys will be tested more than almost anybody else in country, so actually apart from being at home, should be in as safe as, if not much safer environment than anybody.
I have already seen a couple of clubs in Championship saying if a player refuses to pay, they will stop paying them.
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As long as we can reach a place whereby the last six weeks have not been for nought and cases start rising again then I have no problem with it.
The problem is, we’re looking at the now. No telling where the world will be in a month. Cases could be flat at zero by then or be back on the rise. Who knows? We can only look at the now. And the now says its not particularly safe.
The world seems to be on a downward trend of the curve but there are new clusters arising in Wuhan & South Korea where the cases have been flat at zero for some time. Have a feeling we’ll see a bunch of smaller outbreaks(and one massive one potentially worse than the current as a second wave) before a vaccine is approved
Mr Pink
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Why do you keep comparing it to other businesses?
Ffs, people down at the local hardware store arn't running around a football pitch tackling the fuck out of each other.
It's in no way a comparable environment.
But they will only play if sufficient progress to limit the spread has been made in England.
At the moment all they are doing is individual training sessions, and won't go into groups for a while longer yet, and if the situation in the country rises back to where it was, and country needs to re-strengthen the lockdown, it would get pulled then.
No, and people down at the local hardware or supermarkets, you, and them in all likelihood have fuck all clue if they are carrying anything and they don't obey social distancing, and are bumping into you.
It is not like any other business, these people will be under much stricter controls, and it will be much safer for them albeit in full contact sport, than going to your local store, they will be in contact only with people that have passed numerous tests and in totally sterilized conditions.
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thekneaf
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No relegation, no crowds, no title race (very likely no 20/21 European football), no point?
If all that comes to pass and there's literally nothing at stake, what's the motivation.? It'll be as interesting to watch as pre season, which it will essentially be.
If all that comes to pass and there's literally nothing at stake, what's the motivation.? It'll be as interesting to watch as pre season, which it will essentially be.
Don't disagree that as a spectacle it won't be good, that is not the motivation for the clubs though.
Personally only reason I will watch any games, is because of the lack of options, am actually hoping when it does come on they have 3 or 4 games every day, all with staggered kick-offs so can have them on in background whilst working.
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It'll be pretty sad if that's the case, but I agree I'll probably do the same, but it relegates (pun intended) the thing I lose myself in the most to essentially Friends on Netflix that I can stick on when I'm doing the ironing.
Mr Pink
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You have no clue how effective the testing will be in relation to managing the risk of infection - none.
Well let's shut the whole country down for a couple of years then because Mr. Pink thinks that testing cannot be trusted.
That is basically what you are saying testing cannot be trusted so you want the world to go into lockdown forever, otherwise you have to admit that players that will basically be in a bubble, tested frequently, only coming into contact with others that have also been tested frequently, and not coming into contact with anybody else until they have passed at least 3 or 4 tests, and are at facilities that are totally sterilized, are significantly less at risk, than you are going on a weekly visit to Lidl's, when you are in the vicinity of numerous people that have not been tested at all and in contact with numerous items in the shops
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spursfan77
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? FA say they won’t allow no relegation or no voiding the season. Going to be PPG, the worst result for us?
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Don't be daft. I'm saying void this season and prepare for next season in August, when there's less risk in terms of managing the rate of infection.
We know it can't stay like this for months on end as Clubs won't survive but June is too early and there's no fix in terms of integrity either.
Bin this season, prepare for next, and the government help out the absolute desperate clubs in the interim.
The money men won't like that but it makes emminent more sense in terms of safety imo.
This will be to put pressure on to the Government and Police to allow games at home venues, still think games would go ahead at neutral rather than season not finishing.
Richard Masters comments were "Everybody would prefer games to be played on a home and away basis if possible, however some clubs feel more strongly about that than others", not as John Cross put "Every club is against neutral venues"
Premier League teams face £340m TV refund
Premier League clubs are told they could have to repay at least £340m to broadcasters - even if the season resumes behind closed doors.
www.bbc.co.uk
Have not seen FA comments, have you got a link ?
I would have thought it is not in their remit to decide how the season is settled, if it is curtailed (although for European qualification PPG is the only way that is acceptable to UEFA if it comes to it).
EDIT, just seen on Sky that Greg Clarke stated to clubs that not voiding the season, and ensuring relegation and promotion happened, would be his preferred settlement, but he has no jurisdiction, other than ratifying any decision PL would come up with.
And now an unnamed Premier League Club has said they will not pay any players that decided not to play.
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