Yes our results are better after Mourinho took over. What worries me tho, is that many of the wins bar Burnley at home, we have been very lucky and got away with murder, while opponents dominating us for most of the games and wasting insane chances. It is not easy with all the injuries and hopefully after the summer we can get some stability at the back, but i am afraid the stadium will go sour very quickly if we do not get a flying start next season.
Jose Mourinho
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Poch abandoned the profile of players that he often got the best out of, young British talent. I'm sure there was a time when we could have had the pick of the most talented players in the country as Poch was churning out England internationals every week. Shame he didn't stay that path and continue to refresh the team with dele like signings.
rossdapep
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Granted Njie and Nkodou were duds and he did right by rejecting anymore of those types but Janssen WAS his choice! It was widely suggested at the time that Poch scouted him and it was his preference.
The point is Poch made some very good signings in his time. Son, Wanyama, Toby. Sanchez - the club backed him in those instances. He also vastly improved players who were considered quite average such as Rose, Trippier, Davies, Dier, etc, he finally got a tune out of the under performers such as Walker, Jan, Dembele and Lamela. Plus he worked a few younger players into the squad (Winks, Kane).
I agree that the club should have more ambition and SHOULD target bigger players that could become world class but if those players are unattainable you have to look at the alternatives and especially those types you improved previously.
Andre Gomes was linked at the time, he's done quite well at Everton and would certainly have been a good option. I don't recall any Njie types being linked, it seemed to be players that were decent and I think Poch would have improved as that was generally what he specialised in.
Imagine if we signed some from Doucoure, Gomes, Tielemans, Brooks, Maddison - you can't tell me Poch wouldn't have improved these players?! All had high potential just needed coaching right. Instead we waited a year, forked out massively on Ndombele and he's really struggling and there's a chance he becomes a massive flop. If wed have spent that 60m that summer on Doucoure and Brooks/Gomes we may be in a far better situation.
bubble07
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A d brutally honest
fishhhandaricecake
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They also don’t have the equivalent of: DCL, Richarlison and Siggurdson injured!!!
Ossie85
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We didn't sign players because of the stadium. I don't buy the club propaganda. We may had money for a few cheap ones, but that wasn't what we needed and what Poch wanted. And I fully support that.
Buying Doucoure and Brooks/Gomes wouldn't have been been a good choice imo. Average players. Poch knew we had to go a step further if we wanted to improve and challenge for the title.
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Ossie85
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Because that was the right recruiting strategy when he arrived. We had different objetives and a different team. After a few years of competing seriously, the strategy couldn't be getting young english players. We needed better than that, because our goal was different. We wanted to compete for the league instead of just getting top 4
glacierSpurs
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The disapproval of Mourinho is unreal.
Granted we are currently not getting the points, the grunts are coming out louder than ever, even considering the state we were in with the injuries and change of coaches.
It doesn't help when some other fan account in Instagram with huge followings being so negative at every opportunities, spreading the discontentment even further, from just a post of wishing Poch a happy birthday. It has become a chore, always reminded by how dreadful we are every time I'm in Instagram. Thank goodness for the unfollow button.
I just don't understand why are we so fixated at the past, and not letting Poch go, without bashing the incumbent.
Granted we are currently not getting the points, the grunts are coming out louder than ever, even considering the state we were in with the injuries and change of coaches.
It doesn't help when some other fan account in Instagram with huge followings being so negative at every opportunities, spreading the discontentment even further, from just a post of wishing Poch a happy birthday. It has become a chore, always reminded by how dreadful we are every time I'm in Instagram. Thank goodness for the unfollow button.
I just don't understand why are we so fixated at the past, and not letting Poch go, without bashing the incumbent.
As much as I loved Poch I don’t think his personality/style suits established players. He is at his best working with young hungry players looking to establish themselves. I fear he is more limited as a manager than I thought when he had us playing so well.
Pure speculation on your part there - you cannot confidently state they weren’t his choices (unless he’s your best mate. Y the way!)
Far too short sighted and it’s what cost him his job
He was managing tottenham. We have a place in the football food chain at this point - and it’s not the top - therefore you need alternatives if your nr 1’s aren’t available
I can’t believe we’re even still talking about poch. It seems to be holding most fans back - maybe it’s holding some players back as well
This living in the past and analysing poch?
He’s gone, it’s done, that superb part of us is now resigned to the history books. We can’t change the past but we can effect the future - let’s move forward
BPR_U16
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Did you see the football mam? Painful, we were winning games we didnt deserve to.
It took indidual moments of magic to win matches and we had Dele rather than his brother for a few of them.
The number of points achieved is not a valid point.
Tweddled
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Exactly. I think points achieved would only be valid if people were counting and those points added up over the season and determined who gets a trophy, european places and who gets relegated to a different league.
Oh wait
stevenurse
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How can points accumulated not be a valid point?
Leicester won the league by largely defending then punting it forward for Vardy or scoring from resulting set pieces.
In my opinion we were the 'best' team that season, but we're told every time we mention it (rightly so) that the table doesn't lie.
Yes the football isn't great, but we also don't have the players to play the way Jose wants. He needs at least another 2 windows.
Poch was very inconsistent when he arrived but was given the time to sculpt the squad in his vision. The agenda against Jose is poisonous and wont help us in the long run
Metalhead
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Agreed. People had made their mind up before he arrived and are now just seeking validation of their view from every defeat whereas had it been a manager that they wanted, it would be all about giving them time.
Thewobbler
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This is the toughest challenge of joses career. He has always been at the best clubs in the world or chelsea or who had a billionaire to buy whoever he wanted. At spurs he going to have to be very shrewd with his signings as we cant get the very best players. Its a tough job and its a shame that fans are already on his back as this squad and how its been left to rot isnt his fault.
I just hope levy backs him properly in the summer and manages to quickly shift the deadwood.
Yes we have been lucky in getting some wins this season but thats what we need right now, massive amounts of luck until the summer.
I just hope levy backs him properly in the summer and manages to quickly shift the deadwood.
Yes we have been lucky in getting some wins this season but thats what we need right now, massive amounts of luck until the summer.
Tim Sherwood > Jose Mourinho
I hated when Tim was our manager but he had a better win record than Mourinho and we played better football.
We had the best manager I can remember as a Spurs Fan and we failed to back him after he turned down Madrid when Levy promised he would be backed. Constantly failed to sign our first choice signings.
I used to laugh at my friends who were Man Utd fans because of Mourinho now Levy had cursed us with him.
I hated when Tim was our manager but he had a better win record than Mourinho and we played better football.
We had the best manager I can remember as a Spurs Fan and we failed to back him after he turned down Madrid when Levy promised he would be backed. Constantly failed to sign our first choice signings.
I used to laugh at my friends who were Man Utd fans because of Mourinho now Levy had cursed us with him.
I seem to remember him doing very well at Porto who are not a moneybags club.
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That was 16 years ago. Football has changed massively.
Gb160
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It was so funny watching them picking up trophies, while we won fuck all.
I know you weren't being serious.
'friends'...good one.
spursfan77
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Usually I’d agree but there’s no beating players who know the league. If Watford went down I’d take 2/3 players from them in a heartbeat. Doucoure for midfield, deeney for back up to Harry for example. Two driven physical players. Something we need.
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