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dovahkiin

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May 18, 2012
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hertyid posted this over on coys, unsure if itk, or opinion, perhaps a bit of both:
The move away thing is a bargaining chip because local council would not want us away for even one game.
Won't happen. We will win this in court and stadium build will go ahead as planned.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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What I'm really failing to grasp is there reluctance to move. As far as I'm aware; "I'm just nipping down the high street to pick up some sheet metal" is a phrase spoken by nobody, ever. Whether they are located in the current premises or a few hundred yards away is completely redundant as they are not reliant on customers wandering in off the street. I'd assume the majority of their customers are other local business who, we are told, are very much pro the regeneration of Tottenham. Surely the fact that the Josif family are doing their utmost to delay the project and stop all the other business greatly increasing their revenues would make them think twice about using their services and could result in them pissing off quite a few of their regulars.

If they sold their land on their own terms they would get far less than what they are being offered by the club and would also have to shell out for a new premises. By accepting the clubs offer, they get paid a huge amount more than the ground is worth, a brand new site and a relocation bonus.

It is virtually impossible to argue that this is anything other than case of short sighted greed.
The irony is that according to the SSN report this morning, their speciality is making kebab grills, and who is going to the lose out the most by Spurs moving away for a year? Only one of the biggest concentration of kebab shops in the world.
 

Dean

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What I'm really failing to grasp is there reluctance to move. As far as I'm aware; "I'm just nipping down the high street to pick up some sheet metal" is a phrase spoken by nobody, ever. Whether they are located in the current premises or a few hundred yards away is completely redundant as they are not reliant on customers wandering in off the street. I'd assume the majority of their customers are other local business who, we are told, are very much pro the regeneration of Tottenham. Surely the fact that the Josif family are doing their utmost to delay the project and stop all the other business greatly increasing their revenues would make them think twice about using their services and could result in them pissing off quite a few of their regulars.

If they sold their land on their own terms they would get far less than what they are being offered by the club and would also have to shell out for a new premises. By accepting the clubs offer, they get paid a huge amount more than the ground is worth, a brand new site and a relocation bonus.

It is virtually impossible to argue that this is anything other than case of short sighted greed.

Can't but agree with this. The irony being that the Josif family are Tottenham born and bred and lifelong Spurs. Show some loyalty then!

And to your Kebab customers also!
 

L-man

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The stadium redevelopment plans are a significant part of the future for both our Club and the local area and represent a complex infrastructure project that requires funding. This substantial construction project requires discussions with multiple providers of finance so that the optimum financing package can be achieved. To this end, we have appointed Rothschild to advise us on those options.


Accordingly, we are at a stage where we are starting to engage with a number of financing institutions and potential funders in respect of the new stadium development project.

Contrary to recent press speculation, neither the Club, nor its majority shareholder, are in any takeover discussions and the focus of the club is fully on delivering the new stadium project.
 

DiscoD1882

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Mar 27, 2006
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What I'm really failing to grasp is there reluctance to move. As far as I'm aware; "I'm just nipping down the high street to pick up some sheet metal" is a phrase spoken by nobody, ever. Whether they are located in the current premises or a few hundred yards away is completely redundant as they are not reliant on customers wandering in off the street. I'd assume the majority of their customers are other local business who, we are told, are very much pro the regeneration of Tottenham. Surely the fact that the Josif family are doing their utmost to delay the project and stop all the other business greatly increasing their revenues would make them think twice about using their services and could result in them pissing off quite a few of their regulars.

If they sold their land on their own terms they would get far less than what they are being offered by the club and would also have to shell out for a new premises. By accepting the clubs offer, they get paid a huge amount more than the ground is worth, a brand new site and a relocation bonus.

It is virtually impossible to argue that this is anything other than case of short sighted greed.
add to that that every other weekend and one night in the week they are unable to use there premises or get any footfall there as we have games on. which all leads me to believe that they ae just a bunch of money grabbing parasites.
 

Flashspur

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Jul 28, 2012
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I saw this last night...with the daughter being interviewed...

"we don't want a big payout, we want..."
Very long pause...I think I had time to get up have a pee and get back to the tv...still pausing while she finds the right words...

"we want whats right"

My issue with the Sky Sports News emotional appeal interview is that it's all very one sided because ENIC/THFC have remained very tight lipped because of the sensitive nature of the case. Anything that could be said would probably get reported out of context to make the big bad company look like the evil party.

I'm still very cross about all this...:unsure:

actually its not THFC and Archway....its the Government and Archway....these people are standing in the way of a key government backed regeneration scheme for a marginalised area that needs urgent redevelopment after some of the worst rioting we have seen in the UK,,,context innit
 

robbiedee

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Jul 6, 2012
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actually its not THFC and Archway....its the Government and Archway....these people are standing in the way of a key government backed regeneration scheme for a marginalised area that needs urgent redevelopment after some of the worst rioting we have seen in the UK,,,context innit

absolutely...I know that, you know that but unfortunately, the way it gets reported and the way the majority of the General public see it is as a Spurs Stadium development and forget about the bigger picture of regeneration for an entire community in desperate need of it.

ha ha I think I've just written exactly your point having read your post back! I need an early night.
 

dovahkiin

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May 18, 2012
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edmonton posted this just now:
Best not to post all the figures but the gap is currently £10m.
That said, I'm sure if Daniel offered all of it there could be a sudden last minute price rise, just like Real Madrid did to Man U on Di Maria.
I've posted my views on whether we will play away for a season or two before, I still say don't panic everyone.
I hope to have a comprehensive update in next few days and will post what I can.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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The stadium redevelopment plans are a significant part of the future for both our Club and the local area and represent a complex infrastructure project that requires funding. This substantial construction project requires discussions with multiple providers of finance so that the optimum financing package can be achieved. To this end, we have appointed Rothschild to advise us on those options.


Accordingly, we are at a stage where we are starting to engage with a number of financing institutions and potential funders in respect of the new stadium development project.

Contrary to recent press speculation, neither the Club, nor its majority shareholder, are in any takeover discussions and the focus of the club is fully on delivering the new stadium project.

Getting the thing funded really is another can of worms isn't it!

I don't think I can face the disappointment of us not getting enough and it being delayed even further after all this archway strife. Lets be fair, none of us know how easy its going to be to get funding for this kind of thing.
 

JerryGarcia

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May 18, 2006
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The stadium redevelopment plans are a significant part of the future for both our Club and the local area and represent a complex infrastructure project that requires funding. This substantial construction project requires discussions with multiple providers of finance so that the optimum financing package can be achieved. To this end, we have appointed Rothschild to advise us on those options.


Accordingly, we are at a stage where we are starting to engage with a number of financing institutions and potential funders in respect of the new stadium development project.

Contrary to recent press speculation, neither the Club, nor its majority shareholder, are in any takeover discussions and the focus of the club is fully on delivering the new stadium project.

If we've hired the illuminati to do our dirty work then I think its safe to say this will get done and it will be done well. (y)

The history of the Rothschild banks is very interesting, it's stayed in their family since the 1700's I think.
 
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dave5150

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hertyid posted this over on coys, unsure if itk, or opinion, perhaps a bit of both:
The move away thing is a bargaining chip because local council would not want us away for even one game.
Won't happen. We will win this in court and stadium build will go ahead as planned.

edmonton posted this just now:
Best not to post all the figures but the gap is currently £10m.
That said, I'm sure if Daniel offered all of it there could be a sudden last minute price rise, just like Real Madrid did to Man U on Di Maria.
I've posted my views on whether we will play away for a season or two before, I still say don't panic everyone.
I hope to have a comprehensive update in next few days and will post what I can.

Cheers @dovahkiin !!
The transfer window may be over but once a whore, always a whore :love:
 

Spurger King

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If we've hired the illuminati to do our dirty work then I think its safe to say this will get done and it will be done well. (y)

The history of the Rothschild banks if very interesting, it's stayed in their family since the 1700's I think.

Would be very Spursy if the family that runs the world meets its match against a greedy little sheet metal mob.
 

Booney

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Dec 2, 2004
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Sharing an athletics stadium with West Ham now looking like the least bad option??

“If they approached us, we would certainly talk," Hone told LLDC committee members today, report the Tottenham and Wood Green Independent.

The notion was then supported by committee chairman, John Briggs, who added: "The Olympic Stadium is a good option for Spurs fans and for taxpayers - although West Ham may have something to say about it – but I’m sure it would be possible to come to a ground-sharing agreement.”

“The Government has cut funding to the LLDC, so it’s pretty clear it would welcome an approach from Tottenham, as the income generated would be a boost,” he continued.

"Retro-fitting a roof to the Olympic Stadium is an expensive exercise and Londoners will have to foot the cost of any overruns."

Tottenham had hoped to move into the proposed 56,000 seater stadium in four seasons time, with the 2016-17 campaign providing the club's final outing in current White Hart Lane stadium.

During this time, construction of their new home would continue in the backdrop of the existing venue, which would subsequently be demolished in the close season.

Taken from
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...re-olympic-stadium-with-west-ham-9727247.html
 

JerryGarcia

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May 18, 2006
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Would be very Spursy if the family that runs the world meets its match against a greedy little sheet metal mob.

Rothschild could pull all their slaves out of the metal mines and cut off Archway's supply but yes, being Spurs we'd end up getting shafted. Rothschild might like the cut of Levy's jib and poach him to go off and work for the lizard people.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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Wembley or the OS would be the best option, I take it it's too late to get permision to tack on a few extra seats to the current stadium? I can't even remember why we couldn't do that in the first place.
It's not just about the seats, it's the corporate areas, the food and shopping areas, basically what the Emirates does - get people with money into the stadium as early as possible on matchdays and empty their pockets. The stadium just isn't fit for purpose.
 

JerryGarcia

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May 18, 2006
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It's not just about the seats, it's the corporate areas, the food and shopping areas, basically what the Emirates does - get people with money into the stadium as early as possible on matchdays and empty their pockets. The stadium just isn't fit for purpose.

That's very true, and we'd probably still have to close it for a season anyway. I was just thinking as we own most of the land now there might be a an option that's not been thought of that is only possible now. There probably isn't though and that's why it's become such a pain in the arse.
 

BehindEnemyLines

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Apr 13, 2006
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This is exactly the reason Eric Pickles took so long to grant the CPO in the first place. Somebody connected with the process said. The decision would have to stand up in court. Implying they knew there would in all likelihood be an appeal.

I know a few on here lambasted Eric for taking an eternity, but in hindsight, we should probably be thanking him. Although the stadium seems a million miles away, in real amity, it isn't. Work will continue while the law grinds away.
in principal I'd agree with you, but are you seriously suggesting that the delays would be longer than the 2 years he took to make that decision?????
 

Roynie

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hertyid posted this over on coys, unsure if itk, or opinion, perhaps a bit of both:
The move away thing is a bargaining chip because local council would not want us away for even one game.
Won't happen. We will win this in court and stadium build will go ahead as planned.

I agree. Bearing in mind the CPO is by the Council against Archway, as has already been said, not THFC and Archway. Any backlash over the delay should be directed toward the Council. An added aggravation factor would be the amount of lost revenue by local businesses if the club were to move, even for 1 season. The local impact would be a very good reason to try and get the appeal dealt with expediciously in order to minimise that impact.
 

Amo

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"Geographically it is a solution. It is a very sensitive subject but I don't think it will happen," - Arsene Wenger on Groundshare at Emirates.

What do you lot think? Aye, Nay?
 
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