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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

Harrier

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Throwing the players under the bus in the manner he did is unlikely to galvanise the dressing room in a positive way!

Having a negative influence around the place isn’t conducive to positive performances IMHO!

There’s also the potential for more explosive rants should results go against us.
 

Timberwolf

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You can’t win titles at 3 different sides and be shit, it’s just not the case. Not many managers do that, only the elite.

What’s De Zerbi, Glasner, Poch, Potter done in comparison?
Conte had the best or joint best squad in the league every season he won a title. None of the other managers have ever had that luxury (maaaybe Poch in 16/17?).
 

eViL

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Elite managers adapt. Conte can't adapt. Conte needs to spend and sign very specific players to achieve his goal. He still fcuked up Chelsea in the second season. No different to here

Which of today's Elite managers don't have a specific way of playing that are winning trophies?

I'll wait.
 

Dr Know

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I don’t know anyone who has ever shit on this club as much as the bald bastard

From a football point of view you’re absolutely right. I don’t think Levy gets a pass, I think he’s mainly overlooked due to the infrastructure he has put in place at the club. I really can’t find another club who has the potential to make money hand over fist like what Levy has put in place. I don’t want Levy gone, I just don’t want him to have anything to do with appointing managers or anything whatsoever to do with transfers.
Give him a role of “director of infrastructure” or some shit like that.
 

Spursfan1414

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Honestly still gobsmacked that he accused these players of “not wanting to play under pressure”, when he’s only got a job because they kept bailing him out with comebacks week after week at the start of the season.
 

Stamford

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Throwing the players under the bus in the manner he did is unlikely to galvanise the dressing room in a positive way!

Having a negative influence around the place isn’t conducive to positive performances IMHO!

There’s also the potential for more explosive rants should results go against us.

The players aren't galvanised whatever you do. They're completely gutless and that mentality has been here across managers and different players. I honestly don't care if the players are offended - they are an absolute disgrace anyway. They get off far too lightly
 

karsten_finkle

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Which of today's Elite managers don't have a specific way of playing that are winning trophies?

I'll wait.
Bullshit. Pep frequently changes formation and rotates players. As does ETH... Klopp doesn't and, oh look, even he's getting found out.

There's nothing wrong with having a preferred system but if you don't have the players for it and its clearly not working then you adapt. That's what I expect from an "elite" coach.

Conte can't/won't see that his beloved 343 isn't working with this squad and instead of trying to find a working solution with the the resources at his disposal he's throwing his toys out of the pram.

I also believe that Levy's a huge part of the problem but I can't sit and watch Conte act like he's doing us some kind of huge favour. He's not. He's doing a shit job with the players at his disposal and now he's trying to engineer himself a payoff and pretend it's everyone else's fault but his.

And he calls the players selfish....
 
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Spursfan1414

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The players aren't galvanised whatever you do. They're completely gutless and that mentality has been here across managers and different players. I honestly don't care if the players are offended - they are an absolute disgrace anyway. They get off far too lightly
Was it gutless when the players were bailing Conte out constantly with late comebacks in the first half of the season?

This narrative has always been total bollocks.
 

Trent Crimm

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When AC keeps letting Kane take FK’s

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tommo84

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If the club really do see it as BAU, isn’t they going to alienate the players even more when they return from the international break? I think the next couple of game are gonna be ugly whatever happens.
 

Trent Crimm

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Was it gutless when the players were bailing Conte out constantly with late comebacks in the first half of the season?

This narrative has always been total bollocks.

That’s their job tho. No ? Same applies to AC I’ll give you that. They paid to win games and train like fuck. Not ponce around in Burberry or have your head superimposed on a Calvin Klein model.

Too much the wrong way for me.
 

therealGlenn

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I haven't read through the last few pages of post, but I absolutely loved that Conte interview. He is 100% spot on to call out the players and be vocal about things needing to change. People having a go at him for throwing players under the bus, how managers have they done the same too?! I know he’s on his way out but i remain firmly Conte in, he sees that things have to change and he wont abide simply repeating our past mistakes. How can he be blamed for that capitulation? LEVY OUT!
 

markiespurs

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It’s immaterial whether you agree or disagree with how the club is run. The fact of the matter is in any job you have, if you disrespect the organisation you work for publicly like Conte has done then you deserve to get the sack. That is why companies have media policies, whether it covers press or social media, it’s there to protect the brand.
 

HedgieSpur

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When we win they’re the best group of players he’s ever had, when we lose they’re the worst. Don’t believe a word that comes out of this overpaid mercenary’s mouth, he’d burn the club to the ground if he thought it would mean he came out of this looking better.

The number 1 person responsible for our failures this season is Conte and everything he’s doing now is an effort to obscure that. He has been an abject failure this season, can’t think of a single redeeming thing he’s done.

Shameful that he still has a job this morning.
We are still 4th...beat City & Chelsea this season. I'm still seething after yesterday (see my previous post!) but I disagree that he's been an "abject failure".
 

Mark_147

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Conte had the best or joint best squad in the league every season he won a title. None of the other managers have ever had that luxury (maaaybe Poch in 16/17?).
How is that even possible if juve hadn't won the league for 9 years and inter 11 years
 

Joe Bjorn Hotspur

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Must admit I had a shit night and woke up agitated and not just because kids were up at 5.30. Rarely let Spurs get to me like that, but clearly things boiling over
Don’t let this club get you down mate, defo take the international window as an opportunity to reset like we all should. Look after yourself and your family, defo concentrate first and foremost on them. These overpaid, serial failures root and branch in our once great football club do not deserve anymore of your time. Breaks all round needed.
 
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Hans Moleman

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Was it gutless when the players were bailing Conte out constantly with late comebacks in the first half of the season?

This narrative has always been total bollocks.
Some see it as gutless to play that way yeah. Play poorly with no courage when it’s 0-0 but only start to play well when you’re already losing. Pressure is when there’s consequences for poor actions. There’s less pressure when you’re already down 2-0 because there’s no real difference in going down 3. Playing at 0-0 or 1-0 up is where the pressure is. And like you said before their record at those stages is poor. Like it was again yesterday.
 

Spursfan1414

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That’s their job tho. No ? Same applies to AC I’ll give you that. They paid to win games and train like fuck. Not ponce around in Burberry or have your head superimposed on a Calvin Klein model.

Too much the wrong way for me.
Whether it’s their job or not isn’t relevant, the question is whether the players have been “gutless” this season and they clearly haven't.

They’ve shown 100x more guts than Conte has shown coaching ability or tactical flexibility this year.
 

Spursfan1414

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Some see it as gutless to play that way yeah. Play poorly with no courage when it’s 0-0 but only start to play well when you’re already losing. Pressure is when there’s consequences for poor actions. There’s less pressure when you’re already down 2-0 because there’s no real difference in going down 3. Playing at 0-0 or 1-0 up is where the pressure is. And like you said before their record at those stages is poor. Like it was again yesterday.
Well you can ignore those people, because with goal post shifting like that they’d find a way to call our players gutless regardless of what happened on the pitch.

What Conte should really do is figure out who’s been repeatedly picking the same XI “of gutless and selfish” players, while never rotating or giving hungry youth players/squad players a chance, he should be really angry at whoever is responsible for that.
 
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