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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

Stupid like a fox

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Yeah I did watch the game and danjuma wouldn't of made no difference

Yeah I did watch the game and danjuma wouldn't of made no difference whatsoever
Danjuma would have given us an outlet from the back instead of inviting pressure. Making defensive subs doesn't help a team under pressure, it screams desperation and encourages the opposition to attack
 

Dr Know

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Conte has rigidly stuck to the same flawed formula for the whole season. Son was great last season, but this season he's been a car crash and Conte has refused to do anything about it. He's constantly set us up with a numerical disadvantage in midfield and refused to adapt. He's consistently made bizarre substitutions, usually way to late in the game. I think that's the opposite to being a 'very good manager'. A competent manager would have recognised the patterns and done something about it but he's as stubborn as a mule and his ideas are outdated and stale. You only have to look at the 2 Arsenal games where in game 1 they went straight through our midfield pivot for Partey to score. 2nd game was and absolute carbon copy when Odegaard scored. Same formula, same result. Piss poor management.

Yes Conte and a good manager. A manger that is currently not performing? Yes I agree but you can’t ignore what he has achieved to all of a sudden say he’s not a good manager. I don’t know the reasoning behind his selection but unless you can tell me that you have inside knowledge that the players he does not pick, have performed in training and have the right attitude, we’re all just speculating on what’s going on as to why he keeps picking the same players.
Don’t get me wrong, I too complain at the fact that Son has not been great but gets picked. The one thing I would say is we use to say the same thing about Royal and now we’re crying for him to come on even if it’s to play out of his position
 

Mark_147

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Danjuma would have given us an outlet from the back instead of inviting pressure. Making defensive subs doesn't help a team under pressure, it screams desperation and encourages the opposition to attack
Yeah he'd help if we didn't leave everyone behind the ball which we did.
 

Clockspur

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It's funny how just a bit of time and the club staying quiet will see things blow over.

I take the view his position is untenable after yesterday but there is a pathway to him hanging around, so it isn't a clear decision if we don't want it to be. What a farce though...
The Conte out brigade are as half aersed as the Levy out brigade. The fan base is completely apathetic.

When as a fan base I’ve we ever really protested?
 

GutBucket

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I'm not a fan of Levy, but I have some serious doubt about that statement. He's a stubborn defensive coach, with 0 flexibility. His game plan for elimination games is amateur level. And elimination games are all about motivation. So no wonder he fails to motivate our players.
And I believe he has a good record in leagues, because he found a system that at the time worked well against the most used system (4-3-3). The game has evolved from that now, and his back 3 are less effective, specially if you don't have a plan to score.
Sadly for us, Tuchel was too dominant with it at Chelsea and everyone got used to it and found ways of countering it. I remember when Poch used back 3 against Watford the first time to counter Deeney and Ighalo, every journalist was in awe of such tactical adjustment. Nowadays most clubs move to back 3 when needed, West Ham does it, even Dinamo Zagreb beat Chelsea in CL by going back 3 for the first time in history possibly. For some reason wing backs are also less effective in this league now, TAA and Cancelo were unstoppable before and liability nowadays. Unfortunate timing I guess, paired with poor CBs.
 

Clockspur

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I'm not a fan of Levy, but I have some serious doubt about that statement. He's a stubborn defensive coach, with 0 flexibility. His game plan for elimination games is amateur level. And elimination games are all about motivation. So no wonder he fails to motivate our players.
And I believe he has a good record in leagues, because he found a system that at the time worked well against the most used system (4-3-3). The game has evolved from that now, and his back 3 are less effective, specially if you don't have a plan to score.
You can’t win titles at 3 different sides and be shit, it’s just not the case. Not many managers do that, only the elite.

What’s De Zerbi, Glasner, Poch, Potter done in comparison?
 

Spursfan1414

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When we win they’re the best group of players he’s ever had, when we lose they’re the worst. Don’t believe a word that comes out of this overpaid mercenary’s mouth, he’d burn the club to the ground if he thought it would mean he came out of this looking better.

The number 1 person responsible for our failures this season is Conte and everything he’s doing now is an effort to obscure that. He has been an abject failure this season, can’t think of a single redeeming thing he’s done.

Shameful that he still has a job this morning.
 

Meercat

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This is when we wake up tomorrow to hear that as punishment Levy has triggered Conte's 1 year extension clause and handed it over, little pinky tucked to his mouth Dr Evil style... "You want to get out... you can't get out... you are stuck here forever..."

And a voice chimes from the shadows, Don Paratici... "Unless you quit... and winners never quit, do they, Toni...? That is what they call a dish served cold... Italian style, my friend."
 

Stupid like a fox

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Yeah he'd help if we didn't leave everyone behind the ball which we did.
Like I say, defensive subs don't change a game. We cower at the first sign of pressure instead of looking to ease it. Other managers would bring on an attacking sub and exploit the space that would open up from the opposition attacking.
That cowardice is built in our club from top to bottom and regardless of how many interviews Conte does saying this, he is just as responsible with his weak defensive tactics
 

dvdhopeful

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The saddest thing for me is that there is no side to take.

You can blame the ownership, blame the manager and blame the players. You pick one side and then remember that that side is also to blame.

We only have one choice from here, I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Because we'd be better without him. We have no chance of top 4 on our current trajectory.
I’m not entirely convinced we would be better with Mason in charge for such a long period.

Do I think Conte should go now? Yes, but that’s because my number one choice for his replacement, Gallardo, is currently available. However if the board have chosen Di Zerbi to be their main target, which I suspect they have, then they probably think Conte is a better bet over the remaining games. And I’m also sure there will be some sort of bonus payout if Levy were to brake the contract early which would add to the boards hesitancy.
 

shoggy33

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Having watched his conference I actually don't think he's trying to get fired. I think he's just royally pissed off and doesn't feel he should be taking all the blame for what's going on. I pretty much agree with everything he says. There is something fundamentally wrong with this club, a sense of contentment with mediocrity that starts at the top and feeds down to what plays out on the pitch. Whether you like the style of football or not, Conte and Mourinho are two of the worlds mot successful managers, they are winners through and through, and they couldn't change the mentality of this club. I can't stand the way we play under Conte, and think he needs to go, but yesterday he just said what we all think and that was probably the best thing he has ever done for this club so fair play.
 

Mark_147

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Like I say, defensive subs don't change a game. We cower at the first sign of pressure instead of looking to ease it. Other managers would bring on an attacking sub and exploit the space that would open up from the opposition attacking.
That cowardice is built in our club from top to bottom and regardless of how many interviews Conte does saying this, he is just as responsible with his weak defensive tactics
Tbh we were under the cosh getting overrun in midfield and looking like we were going to concede at anytime. If Conte had brought on danjuma and we conceded the equaliser people would be saying why didn't he shut up shop which most managers would of done in that situation.
 
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