What happened to The Stadium announcement?

[Langers]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned elsewhere but I couldn't find anything.

I'm sure Mr. Levy said there was going to be an announcement about the stadium plans. Did I imagine this?

 

[Real_madyidd]

They put it back to the end of the season. Was announced quite a while ago that there was still work to do.

 

[Langers]

Cheers. I thought he said January. It would be nice to know what a few of the plans were. Staying at the lane, looking elsewhere e.t.c

 

[Spurs_Q8]

in last year, Levy said the announcement should be in the 1st half of next year, not the 1st month

still 4-5 months remaining.

I hope rebuilding White Hart Lane to 55.000 at least ( despite it would be difficult to do ) or building new Stadium with 60.000 at least.

a big club like us, should have very big stadium as i've been heard 26.000 people in waiting list for season ticket.

 

[SpurSince57]

I've also read that the audited figure is less than half that.

 

[eViL]

I've also read that the audited figure is less than half that.

I'd argue that, while the audited figure is about right, a lot of fans don't even bother trying to get one simply because they can't be arsed waiting.

I know it pretty much stands for me. :bang:

 

[SpurSince57]

I'll take a flying guess that the board are holding fire because of all the predictions of a recession. Which seems a pretty sensible thing to do. Back in the 80s when we were actually winning stuff and playing great football the ground was barely half-full for many games; a lot of people simply couldn't afford to go every week. No point putting ourselves into hock to build a stonking new stadium and then finding we can't fill it.

 

[AllSeeingEye]

Anybody who thinks that we couldn't fill a 60,000 seater is a nutbag.

Spurs have an absolutely huge fanbase, and I have lost count of the number of times that games have sold out.

Whenever I have been to WHL it's always packed - even for pre-season games.

There is no question of filling it for me, recession or not. If the worst came to the worst they could always chop the ticket prices a bit.

It's the least they can do following the windfall that the Premier Lge TV deals will bring this season end.

 

[Stoof]

There is no question of filling it for me, recession or not.

But there is a question of being able to finance the thing. And I very much doubt DL can go "Hey Joe, give us the dough" - it would be financed. And I can tell you first hand, that no-one is borrowing anything at the moment at the top-end between banks which cascades down all the way via commercial customers down to you and I.

If the worst came to the worst they could always chop the ticket prices a bit.

:rofl: If anything they'd go higher. No-one builds a new stadium and drops the prices, ASE. Come on - this is Spurs as well, mate.

I'll take a flying guess that the board are holding fire because of all the predictions of a recession. Which seems a pretty sensible thing to do. Back in the 80s when we were actually winning stuff and playing great football the ground was barely half-full for many games; a lot of people simply couldn't afford to go every week. No point putting ourselves into hock to build a stonking new stadium and then finding we can't fill it.

I don't think it's a "filling it" question - more of a realistic financial structure behind getting the thing built in the first place. But the Americans say recession. That means recession here too.

 

[Bobbins]

Yup. There won't be any move on a stadium in the current global financial climate. And that's a good thing, personally I'd be worried if we did start to make any moves, I would not want to see Spurs borrowing £250m right now.

Oh yeah and Stoof is right, the prices will go up if/when we do actually build a new one. People will blatantly pay the increase, and how else are we going to pay off our debts after construction? As long as they do everything they can to keep the atmosphere as close to how it is at the Lane as possible I'll be happy. And after a season ticket (like Evil, I'm part of the un-audited, 'it's not even worth me trying' figure).

 

[Stoof]

The waiting list is 12,000 (approximately)

Good afternoon,

Thank you for your note.

Your waiting list position is 2718 of approximately twelve thousand.

I trust this satisfies your email, however, should you have any further queries please do not hesitate to email me.

Thank you for your continued support

Regards,
Niall Malone

 

[General Levy]

Are the 12,000 people who are waiting for a ST exclusively for the North and South stands?

 

[camaj]

Spurs have an absolutely huge fanbase, and I have lost count of the number of times that games have sold out.

Since Jol took over, we've basically sold out every premiership game. If there have been games that haven't sold out it's been games like the CC cup game against Port Vale etc. but even then we managed a high attendance.

While there might be a recession (there might not), getting a stadium that holds 60k+ is a long term strategy. We may not fill it during a recession (unless we lower prices) but long term we'll grow. The worst thing for the club is to not maximise income and any money spent on a new stadium will pay for itself in the long run

 

[Stoof]

Are the 12,000 people who are waiting for a ST exclusively for the North and South stands?

Pass.

They're, we're, on the waiting list. Whatever that definition is - when I joined as a Bronze member, I didn't specify an area, I just ticked the "Bronze" box to swap my £15 with a number in a list.

 

[SpurSince57]

Since Jol took over, we've basically sold out every premiership game. If there have been games that haven't sold out it's been games like the CC cup game against Port Vale etc. but even then we managed a high attendance.

While there might be a recession (there might not), getting a stadium that holds 60k+ is a long term strategy. We may not fill it during a recession (unless we lower prices) but long term we'll grow. The worst thing for the club is to not maximise income and any money spent on a new stadium will pay for itself in the long run

No, attendances have been going up for a good deal longer; we've been at capacity or pretty close since Gross and Graham's time. But recession will affect people's pay packets and they will cut back on expenditure; that's what happened in the 80s, and a ticket took a far smaller slice of the average income then. Levy and the board will simply not take the risk while markets are so uncertain.

Also, we rarely filled the ground to capacity when we had 65,000+ capacity and a spot on the terraces cost 15p—even in 60-61 only 6 league games out of 21 pulled in over 60,000 punters. So, ASE, I have sound historical evidence for my 'nutbag' notions. What is deluded is the idea that ticket prices will be cut. Given the example of the Death Star up the road, they'll rise.

It's interesting that Stoof is 2718 out of 12,000. Not so long ago the club informed the THST the waiting list was around 20,000. We appear to have lost a few. Either about 8,000 people have decided they can't live that long, or someone did their sums wrong.

Anyway, Stoof, lawyers will always be able to afford tickets, recession or not! :grin:

 

[jimbo]

I suspect they may have had to de-dupe the list, as back in the day you had to specify whether you wanted North, South, East or West and then Upper or Lower. I was probably on the list 4 times for South and East, Upper and Lower. I would guess others may have done the same.

 

[General Levy]

No, attendances have been going up for a good deal longer; we've been at capacity or pretty close since Gross and Graham's time. But recession will affect people's pay packets and they will cut back on expenditure; that's what happened in the 80s, and a ticket took a far smaller slice of the average income then. Levy and the board will simply not take the risk while markets are so uncertain.

Also, we rarely filled the ground to capacity when we had 65,000+ capacity and a spot on the terraces cost 15p—even in 60-61 only 6 league games out of 21 pulled in over 60,000 punters. So, ASE, I have sound historical evidence for my 'nutbag' notions. What is deluded is the idea that ticket prices will be cut. Given the example of the Death Star up the road, they'll rise.

It's interesting that Stoof is 2718 out of 12,000. Not so long ago the club informed the THST the waiting list was around 20,000. We appear to have lost a few. Either about 8,000 people have decided they can't live that long, or someone did their sums wrong.

Anyway, Stoof, lawyers will always be able to afford tickets, recession or not! :grin:

:wink:

 

[muffwah]

I got my ST without being on the list, my brother just requested one on his renewal

 

[Spurs_Q8]

It's interesting that Stoof is 2718 out of 12,000. Not so long ago the club informed the THST the waiting list was around 20,000. We appear to have lost a few. Either about 8,000 people have decided they can't live that long, or someone did their sums wrong.

to be honest, i don't know enough about this one.

but if it was really 20,000 and now 12,000 .. then it might be some handres were egyptians :think: because they were following us too much when we signed Mido and then Ghaly.

 

[chinaman]

It is all the more important to have plans firmed up so that the club can take advantage of the recession and build at a lower cost.