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Taken from Glory-Glory/Enter the Pitbull.

Part 1


Having promised his first exclusive and in-depth interview to hotspur, new Head Coach Juande Ramos talks about his philosophy of football, the challenges ahead, and his desire to sample some good old-fashioned English fish and chips!

If ever there was a case for having 25 hours in a day, then Juande Ramos would be the chief advocate. Sitting down at Spurs Lodge for his first interview with hotspur, his trusty mobile phone appears on the verge of meltdown. "It's been a hectic time," says the assiduous Spaniard. "There are schedules to organise, meetings with staff, with players, sorting my office and generally trying to find myself in a new country."

Yet judging by his assured demeanour, you get the impression of a serious man thriving in his new surrounds, thriving on his new challenge. "Aside from my family, football has always been my life," he admits. "From the time when I was playing the game as a small boy to now as a coach, I have always been in an environment of football.

"Now, as a coach, I am always thinking about the game, ways I can improve my team, and it gives me satisfaction when my teams do well. This is another chapter opening for me, and coaching a big club like Tottenham in the English Premier League is another challenge but one I've always wanted. So yes, I'm very happy, even if there is plenty of hard work ahead."

Surprisingly, Ramos was a reluctant coach; a knee injury cut short his playing career at the age of 28 and, having hung up his boots with Alicantino minnows Denia, he started on the lowest rung, coaching the B teams at Elche, a particularly modest club from North East Spain. "I had no ambition to be a coach when I was a player, it didn't cross my mind," he admits. "But when I realised my playing career was over, then I had a big decision to make. Coaching was my way of staying involved in the game and that was all that mattered to me at that time. Not so much how good I could become as a coach, just to stay involved. My playing career ended too soon, too suddenly, and I didn't want to end my association with the game."

Ramos continued his education with the B team at Second Division CD Alcoyano before winning promotion to the Spanish second tier in 1995 with then up-and-coming Levante. A year later his fledgling reputation grew tenfold, having taken CD Logrones into the Primera Division, an achievement that secured a move to Barcelona's B team, playing in the second tier of Spanish football.

At first glance, there is a comparison with the likes of Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene W**ger and Jose Mourinho - players without a stellar playing career who seemingly took to management with ease, but Ramos is quick to point out that there is no correlation between playing ability and success as a coach.

"I should point out that I wasn't an unknown player in Spain," he quips, pointing to the four years he had with Elche in the Primera Division during the mid-Seventies. "But even so, management is a completely different job to playing, you simply cannot draw comparisons between the two. There are examples of top players who have made the transition comfortably, while others have not been so successful.

"The fact that Ferguson, Mourinho and W**ger have been successful here is because they are very good coaches. That is all that matters, and what they did or didn't do as players are simply coincidental."

His year at Barça proved to be the only defecit on an otherwise exemplary CV. Relegation to Spain's third division in 1997 ensured his stay at the Camp Nou was short-lived, yet he recalls it as one of the most poignant periods in his managerial career. "Success at Logrones came quickly, which opened other doors of opportunity for me, and when a club with Barcelona's stature wants you, then you take it," he says.

"It wasn't the best of seasons, I agree, but it was a fantastic experience and at that stage of my development it was important to be associated with such an institution. Coaching the B team doesn't mean you are in charge of the reserve side and therefore some big players, like you have in England. It is a completely different team, a young team, and one that gets to compete in the Second Division in Spain, so in that respect it was just like coaching any other team.

"But the association gave me a good insight into how a big club was run and it provided me with a burning desire to coach at that top level. At the time, Sir Bobby Robson was in charge and we spoke regularly. He was very influential on me; we shared similar views on how the game should be played and when someone like him gives you advice, then you take it.

"He is very well respected in Spain and throughout Europe, but I wouldn't single him out as the most important influence on my career. He is one of many coaches to whom I've listened and who I have observed."

Despite the setback, Juande's ethos stood firm. His 'offensivo' style of management continued at fellow Catalans UE Lleida, before he took Rayo Vallecano into the Primera Division in 1999 and UEFA Cup qualification the following season. His reputation had been further enhanced by the endearing football now being played.

"Depending on the quality of players you have at your disposal and who you are playing against, you have to adapt to any given situation, but I like to be playing an attacking style where possible," he explains.

"It's all about striking a balance between defence and attack, but if you can entertain and get positive results at the same time, then that is perfect football for me. That was the way I had my teams playing and that has never changed. I am more than aware that this is the way Tottenham have always approached their football and what the fans demand from the team, so it's nice that we have a shared outlook on the game."

Ramos completed his conversion from lower league scholar to established Primera Liga luminary with spells at Real Betis, Malaga and Espanyol, but it was during two seasons at Sevilla that he became one of the most lauded managers in world football.

His first season was capped by leading the Rojiblancos to a 4-0 UEFA Cup final success against Middlesbrough, before beating Champions League holders Barcelona to lift the UEFA Super Cup. Last season, the UEFA Cup was retained after Espanyol were overcome on penalties, while the Copa del Rey also arrived at the Ramón Pizjuán stadium with a 1-0 win over Getafe in the final.

But a truer yardstick of how high Sevilla's stock had risen came with last season's La Liga title race, in which the side was in contention with Barça and Real Madrid until the penultimate week of the season. Third place was still the club's highest league finish, ensuring Ramos a Champions League debut.

He picked up his fifth and latest piece of silverware earlier this season with a 6-3 aggregate win against Real Madrid in the Spanish Super Cup and, inevitably, looks back on his time at the club with fond memories. "The mentality of the players at Sevilla was a key to our success," he says modestly.

"Technically, we knew they were all very good players but we had to convert them to thinking they could compete with the best teams and then, more importantly, that they could beat them.

"Once that happened, success seemed to follow. Our form in Europe was a reflection of what was happening in the league and an environment of winning had been created within the squad. While it would be wrong to single out individuals, we improved many of the players, and that extra few per cent had a big consequence.

"When a team works it's because everyone does their job properly, both on the pitch and behind the scenes. We had unity and kept everything low key. That is the way I work. We just went out in each game, in each competition, and tried to see how far it would take us."

The joy of Sevilla's newly-acquired status was put into sharp perspective following the tragic death of winger Antonio Puerta during a league game with Getafe in August. Ramos, like everyone at the club, was deeply affected by his passing. "It has affected me the same way it has affected everyone," he said at the time of the tragedy. "You don't expect a young sportsman to lose his life and it is so hard for all of us who have worked with him. There is nothing else you can do except carry on because life is full of situations like that."

Juande prefers not to expand on such a delicate subject and while Puerta will never be far from his thoughts, life does, indeed, move on. His appointment as Tottenham boss in October saw a lifetime ambition fulfilled. Where many foreign arrivals come up with standard quotes such as: 'I've always loved English football - it's where I've always wanted to be', Juande's love for the game here is clearly deep-rooted. "I've been an admirer of English football since the World Cup in 1966," he insists. "While I've looked on from some distance, I've watched the teams, the coaches and the players with interest.

"It was always an ambition to come here and coach at some stage. I never had a set plan in my head when that time would come - I don't think you can plan like that in football. But it's all about making the most of the opportunities when they come your way, and when Tottenham expressed an interest in me, then I knew the time was right.

"There was also this feeling that after the success we'd had at Sevilla and the indifference in results this season, a change was good for everybody. Not everybody was happy when I did leave but that's how football is. If you leave, people change their opinion and you go from hero to villain in seconds. But I couldn't let this opportunity pass me by. There were other offers but it was always Tottenham for me."

Some observers in the Spanish media claimed that while Ramos was correct in joining a big club in Spurs, he was about to join an inferior league. There is, indeed, a perception on the continent that the Premier League - and English players in particular - lacks the necessary technical ability and finesse, yet you won't find Ramos echoing those sentiments. "Every single country has its style: France, Spain, Italy, England... and you have to respect the style of each. You have to implement that style into the workings of your team, but I have always admired the Premier League and the players within this league.

"But to say that the English players are no good technically is completely wrong. I believe English players to be very good technically and certainly the English players we have here at Tottenham are very accomplished footballers. If they were no good, they would not be in the Premier League and they would not be here."
 

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Ramos took his seat in the White Hart Lane stands for the first time against Blackburn. While he had obviously faced Spurs in last season's UEFA Cup, the Rovers game - in which Clive Allen took charge of the side - provided the opportunity to study the team at close quarters. While disappointed with the 2-1 defeat, he drew optimism from the overall performance.

"Obviously the last 20 minutes I did not like, but maybe a lack of confidence, which happens when a team is struggling to win games, played a part. But the general performance was good and I left the stadium with a feeling that I wanted to get straight on the training ground.

"I saw in these players that we should be in a better position in the league table, so I knew that once I could start to implement my style on the training pitch, there would be an improvement in performance."

With Marcos Alvarez and Gus Poyet installed as his two assistant coaches, Ramos has found life at the Lodge a smooth transition - even if training times are a little alien. "The fact that we have double sessions, with timetables that are really quite strange at 11am and 2pm, is something I've had to get used to," he smiles. Training is in English and it's a measure of the man's single-mindedness that he refused to lean on his fellow Premiership coaches in his early days.

"I haven't spoken to any other English coaches for advice - that's not my style," he says. "I respect all my fellow coaches in the Premier League, they are all very good and very interesting in their own way, but I am very much my own man and I will make my own decisions."

Sitting with Ramos, there is an aura of authority about him, but also a degree of benevolence. Both are hallmarks of his managerial style, with the latter, he says, now a pre-requisite of the modern-day coach. "There was a despondency, a lack of confidence going around the team when I arrived, so we needed to encourage the players and to give them confidence," he points out.

"Even at the highest level, man-management has become a big part of football; every player has his own personality and you have to know that personality to achieve the best results. It is just as important as getting your tactics right. This is a team in which the mental aspect is very important. Now the confidence has improved, there has been an improvement in our results.

"It is therefore important that I am calm in the dressing room; a balanced manager. I will tell my players if I'm not happy but I don't think it helps to say too much in a match situation. The best place to improve is on the training ground."

Ramos made his bow with a 2-0 win against Blackpool in the Carling Cup, while victories against Hapoel Tel Aviv and Wigan sandwiched a 1-1 draw at Middlesbrough.

"The short-term aim for me has been to wipe the slate clean and start again," he says. "The process of implementing my style of coaching and management is underway, and I have been pleased with the reaction of the players.

"That hasn't surprised me because I knew the quality of the squad here, but it's too early to say exactly where our league form can take us. The realistic aim for this season is to finish as high as we possibly can, but maybe if you ask me the question again in a couple of months, then I will have a more definitive answer for you."

Longer-term, the aim is to be challenging for the coveted four Champions League spots and putting pressure on the likes of Ars***l and Chelsea as London's top dog. "This is a great club, one of the best in the country, and we want to be back challenging at the top," he says. "Obviously I am aware of the rivalry with Arsenal and when we play them I want to get the results that will give happiness to our supporters.

"But only when we get to the end of this season can I make a more realistic assessment of exactly where we are and what is needed to move the team forward to where we need to be. We will then know what players we are going to have and the quality within the team. But the supporters can be certain we will be giving everything to put this club back where it belongs."

And with that, the phone rings once again. "An invite for dinner," he says. "I usually go for continental cuisine, but maybe it's time to try fish and chips. That's one thing Gus can certainly tell me all about!"
 

Legend10

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Thank you for posting.

Interesting part where he says he doesn't say too much during match situations and in the main leaves it for the training ground.
 

BigRed

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I don't understand the comment about the strange training timetable. Does anyone know what he's talking about?
 

fazza

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I read that earlier aswell, good read, we just gotta give him time and I'm sure he will make us a force in the premiership.
 

Sally_G

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I don't understand the comment about the strange training timetable. Does anyone know what he's talking about?

I was a bit confused about that. Didn't he introduce the double sessions for our lard asses?
 

Thesoccershrink

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I don't understand the comment about the strange training timetable. Does anyone know what he's talking about?

Probably normally takes a siesta around 2pm.

More likely, that here isn't much time between the sessions. if you have had a strenuous workout you'd want more than an hour or so before you started again.
 

Gilzeanking

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' When a club of Barcelona's stature wants you , you take it '

Hmmm ...am I nitpicking , or does this statement mean that Barca have only to give him the nod and he's gone ?
 
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