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If they come back down to our initial price would we be interested again I wonder or does the injury put us off? If we were aware of his back issues and still prepared to pay then how much difference does the knee injury cause I wonder. Maybe the initial deal but he comes in now and works with us on his recovery. I'm finding the Gil loan talk unusual considering the issues Soloman is having unless we're getting someone in.
The back injury wouldn’t worry us because we knew about it before but the knee issue might. I think we would probably have moved on however as we would have assumed it was a done deal to Brentford. You’re right tho, the fact we asked for him to come in straight away does seem to tie in with the Solomon and Gil situation.
 

Japhet

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If they come back down to our initial price would we be interested again I wonder or does the injury put us off? If we were aware of his back issues and still prepared to pay then how much difference does the knee injury cause I wonder. Maybe the initial deal but he comes in now and works with us on his recovery. I'm finding the Gil loan talk unusual considering the issues Soloman is having unless we're getting someone in.

Can't see us being interested if he's already failed a medical. Our initial offer would have been subject to passing a medical so I can't see any way round it.
 

mark67spurs

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You cannot take a chance on a potential crock, shame, but you wouldn't by a house with subsidence unless it was stupid cheap.
 

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Back problems are quite common in young footballers, its usually to do with overload, but you need manage potential stress fractures in the bones.

Im no medical expert, just going on information my lads club inform parents of.

Knee issues, entirely different.

Feel for the kid, i quite likes the fact he chose playing time over club name, shows a bit of chatacter that as its hars to navigate first team football for youngsters these days.

Good luck to him though, injuries in takented kids is more common than you would imagine sadly.
 

mil1lion

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Can't see us being interested if he's already failed a medical. Our initial offer would have been subject to passing a medical so I can't see any way round it.
Did he fail the medical or did Brentford pull out because of the medical? Like he could pass the medical but they felt the injuries were not worth the fee they bid. It will be interesting to see what he's actually sold for and if it came down to a reasonable one whether we would take the gamble.
 

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Does he look better than Marcus Edwards did at that age? I was convinced he'd make it with us. Still scoring 1 in 4 in Lisbon though.
Of what I saw of Edwards (then 24yo) last season in the CL group stage, compared to what I´ve seen of Nusa age 18 - I would pick the latter. Seven days a week. Easily.
 

yido-1989

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Of what I saw of Edwards (then 24yo) last season in the CL group stage, compared to what I´ve seen of Nusa age 18 - I would pick the latter. Seven days a week. Easily.

Difference is Edwards has proved he can play a full season consistently and his numbers are decent.

2 Goals in 6 Games - Champions League 22/23 Season

12 G/A in 33 League Games 22/23 Season

7 G/A in 17 League Games so far this season
 

Cinemattis

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Difference is Edwards has proved he can play a full season consistently and his numbers are decent.

2 Goals in 6 Games - Champions League 22/23 Season

12 G/A in 33 League Games 22/23 Season

7 G/A in 17 League Games so far this season
Difference is Edwards is 6-7 years older. You´re comparing apples to oranges, mate.


I´m all for numbers and stats (love them tbh), but out of curiosity: have you ever seen Nusa play?
 
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yido-1989

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Difference is Edwards is 6-7 years older. You´re comparing the weight of apples to oranges, mate.


I´m all for numbers and stats (love them tbh), but out of curiosity: have you ever seen Nusa play?

Not really comparing them tbh, just stating Edwards has played consistently for how many years now while getting decent numbers along the way.

Nusa hasn’t completed a full season due to injuries that might get worse by the sounds of it. I haven’t watched him live tbh, just clips on YouTube and what has been said/shown on here.

I was all for signing him recently but if I had to pick out the two playing for us right now I would probably pick Edwards after the news regarding injuries etc. That’s more than likely the reason he doesn’t play every game and why they are trying to sell him asap?
 

Cinemattis

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Not really comparing them tbh, just stating Edwards has played consistently for how many years now while getting decent numbers along the way.

Nusa hasn’t completed a full season due to injuries that might get worse by the sounds of it. I haven’t watched him live tbh, just clips on YouTube and what has been said/shown on here.

I was all for signing him recently but if I had to pick out the two playing for us right now I would probably pick Edwards after the news regarding injuries etc. That’s more than likely the reason he doesn’t play every game and why they are trying to sell him asap?
Thanks for your reply! Agree: the injury part does not sound reassuring. Especially if the Skysports article is correct that something came up during the Brentford medical, and that they don´t want to make the deal as agreed because of it.

He did have back problems during the period last autumn when he got his first starts for Norway. That was the reason why he didn´t start against Spain, and wasn´t at all a part of the fixture against Scotland.
 

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Biggest issue with all of these kids that break through at 16 or 17 is that they are encouraged/pushed by their clubs into a fitness regime that is designed for players who have already finished their physical development. This then over loads the body to the point that, whilst they may appear fit and well, any weaknesses which may have disappeared through a natural development are then transformed into structural issues which show up in either physical performance or medicals and thus lead the player to being considered a risk for playing, transfers etc. This is and has always been a problem for 'wonder kids' who are not picked up by clubs who understand that children mature differently. I'm sure it has led to many fabulous players at 15, 16 or 17 eventually dropping out of football due to their bodies being unable to manage the demands of top level football. Making it as a professional footballer is hard enough without the clubs they are signed with just looking for the next pay day. A sad indictment of football if you ask me.
 

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Biggest issue with all of these kids that break through at 16 or 17 is that they are encouraged/pushed by their clubs into a fitness regime that is designed for players who have already finished their physical development. This then over loads the body to the point that, whilst they may appear fit and well, any weaknesses which may have disappeared through a natural development are then transformed into structural issues which show up in either physical performance or medicals and thus lead the player to being considered a risk for playing, transfers etc. This is and has always been a problem for 'wonder kids' who are not picked up by clubs who understand that children mature differently. I'm sure it has led to many fabulous players at 15, 16 or 17 eventually dropping out of football due to their bodies being unable to manage the demands of top level football. Making it as a professional footballer is hard enough without the clubs they are signed with just looking for the next pay day. A sad indictment of football if you ask me.
This is common in lesser leagues such as the Nordic leagues where the really big talents are good enough to play when they are that age. Isak at Newcastle has had injury issues and went down injured again today and he has played men's football since he was 16. Same with Lucas Bergwall who is now on his way to Barca.

English talents tend to stay in the youth setup until they are 18 at least, with some exceptions of course.
 
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HunkOfJunk

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I remember years and years ago we had a kid called Terry Dixon who was insanely talented, everyone was convinced he would be a superstar - he was tearing it up in youth teams, Jol bought him in to train with the seniors, he was picked in the Ireland squad at 16.

But, his knees were fucked. Even after multiple surgeries he just couldn't shake it and after a brief stop at West Ham he ended up in non league.

To this day I'm still gutted for the guy, he had so much potential and were it not for his knees he could have been one of our best ever youngsters.

My point is, with kids like this the risks are huge with injuries like these. You are right, there comes a point where the risk/reward balance becomes full risk.
I remember years ago during this time, he used to come into the shop I worked at with his uncle robbing the place 😂
 

Cinemattis

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This is common in lesser leagues such as the Nordic leagues where the really big talents are good enough to play when they are that age. Isak at Newcastle has had injury issues and went down injured again today and he has played men's football since he was 16. Same with Lucas Bergwall who is now on his way to Barca.

English talents tend to stay in the youth setup until they are 18 at least, with some exceptions of course.
Yes and no. The physical demands in the Scandinavian football leagues are nowhere near the levels of English football. At least down to Championship or even League One level. Same would apply to mid level European leagues like the ones in Holland, Portugal, Austria, Belgium, etc. That is also why these young kids are able to play in the Scandinavian leagues as teenagers, simply because they don´t have to run that fast, that long, etc.

My understanding is that the majority of the Norwegian teams are very careful and mindful when it comes to matching the super talented ones. The thing is that most of them goes abroad while they´re still teenagers to join higher level leagues and/or youth academies: Haaland, Ødegaard, Bobb and Nusa are prime examples.

Ødegaard was the "freak" that I think started to get minutes from the age of 15. But he never played a full 90 minutes. And Haaland - that was bigger and stronger than most grown men at the age of 16-17 - was still matched carefully at Molde before he left for Salzburg.

Don´t know Swedish football well enough to make any claims, but at least that kid in Copenhagen that we´ve been mentioned to be interested is matched very carefully.
 

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This thread is far too active for a player who it is widely accepted isn’t joining. Any other random Brentford players we want to start a thread about?
 
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