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glacierSpurs

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From Paratici's selection of the manager options, I'm almost getting the feeling that he is basing on what players he could get easily to suit them instead.
 

nedley

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So, who should?

Surely the director of football should be picking the manager. Or are you suggesting it's left to Levy?

Most on here have been criticising levy for getting involved in the football matters.
Think the point is Paratici should and is likely to be given his marching orders.

I personally think his performance under us has been mixed. Lots of people have over praised him imo.

Most agree that we should continue under this model.
 

DanielJohnCosta

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sounds like we are trying to get in these mediocre and untested managers to do the job we had Poch do for us, which would make total sense if Poch wasn't available and willing to come to us
 

allatsea

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sounds like we are trying to get in these mediocre and untested managers to do the job we had Poch do for us, which would make total sense if Poch wasn't available and willing to come to us
Not sure who you are suggesting is "mediocre" ? Perhaps unproven might be more appropriate ?
 

Styopa

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Paratici’s choices for manager in 2021 were Gattuso & then Nuno. I absolutely wouldn’t be giving him free rein on this one.

Yeah, it's very worrying. And whilst Conte seemed like an incredible coup, ultimately, it turned out to be a poor appointment, at least partly because Conte is a terrible fit for the club.

The problem is, though, we need a coach and DOF who can work together. So Paratici needs to be on board with the appointment, assuming he is still here next season. And if he's not going to be here, he arguably shouldn't be involved in the recruitment process at all.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Glasner, Marco Silva, Thomas Frank, Conceicao.

If Paratici tries to seriously suggest any of these he needs sacking immediately.
 
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jolsnogross

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Then fire him and replace him with someone who can do it. You can’t want Levy out of footballing matters, except for when the fans disagree with the DoF and then Daniel should jump right in and overrule him. Hire a Director of Football and let them do the job, and if they’re bad at the job fire them and hire a good one. The answer is never Daniel Levy handpicking a manager (although that’s absolutely what’s going to happen).
Don't let him hand pick a manager, but do let him handpick a director of football?

"Hire a good one" would seem to apply to both positions. The manager being the more important of the two.
 

HW61

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Let's think about this for a second

We have a manager who is worse than a dead man walking and let's be real it's been obvious since the World cup that he isn't staying beyond this season.

We have a DOF who is banned in one country already and potentially the rest of Europe soon pending an appeal and then he has potential criminal charges to face too. Somehow he still has a job

We have a star player and club talisman or as the Americans say ' a franchise player ' who is approaching the last year of his contract and we have no idea if he wants to stay.

And a club captain who looks way past his best and will likely be moved on this summer.

4 huge huge things for a football club all happening at once. It's mad.

Call it bad planning , bad luck , maybe both but it's happening.

Our next manager needs to be strong mentally and probably will need to grab the club by the balls and lead it forward because right now it's a mess.

But if we get that appointment right and can keep Kane I think we can get away with it. Such a huge moment for us.
Great post mate. Exactly what was needed. Conte in theory was that guy and yet has fallen foul and failed at the hands of Levy… hence the recycle whilst ENIC remain.

They have taken away our identity to fill their own pockets.
 

leray

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Isn't Conceicao the longest serving Porto manager ever? 6 years in such an environment is, for me, an actually quite a feat. He won 3 titles there, 2 Champions League QFs. Wouldn't be totally against it. Don't really care if he doesn't play possession based football as long as it's not the uncreative football of Antonio Conte or ambient football of Nuno Espirito Santo.

All in all, our recruitment is much more important than hiring the best manager for obvious reasons. And no, it doesn't mean buying the players the manager wants, because as we've seen recently, they start to want players like Zaniolo which is a sackable offense in itself.
 

Hotspur88

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FP has been brilliant behind the scenes with the youth set up, he's brought in some fantastic players and has also secured top talent such as Sarr and Udogie when a lot of top clubs wanted those players.

However, his managerial targets are somewhat worrying. Spoke to my source early this morning and was given a few more names to add to the two I've consistently mentioned (Tuchel & Enrique). The problem lies where FP has drawn up a list of potential managers, most of which don't play the kind of football Levy (supposedly) and us fans would like to see.

Again, it's all a bit messy where there are too many people involved in the process. It's highly likely FP won't even be here in 6 months time with everything going on so it's just a bit of a mess again.

There are so many problems behind the scenes, it sadly doesn't really matter who comes in as the new manager.

I'll also repeat what I already said last week, Poch would of course love to come back, but I'm told he has his sights firmly set on Madrid currently and there are too many people behind the scenes who would need convincing that bringing him back right now is the right thing to do.

Sad times 😔
 

Timberwolf

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FP has been brilliant behind the scenes with the youth set up, he's brought in some fantastic players and has also secured top talent such as Sarr and Udogie when a lot of top clubs wanted those players.

However, his managerial targets are somewhat worrying. Spoke to my source early this morning and was given a few more names to add to the two I've consistently mentioned (Tuchel & Enrique). The problem lies where FP has drawn up a list of potential managers, most of which don't play the kind of football Levy (supposedly) and us fans would like to see.

Again, it's all a bit messy where there are too many people involved in the process. It's highly likely FP won't even be here in 6 months time with everything going on so it's just a bit of a mess again.

There are so many problems behind the scenes, it sadly doesn't really matter who comes in as the new manager.

I'll also repeat what I already said last week, Poch would of course love to come back, but I'm told he has his sights firmly set on Madrid currently and there are too many people behind the scenes who would need convincing that bringing him back right now is the right thing to do.

Sad times 😔
Thanks for the update.

Based on his record, makes absolute sense that Paratici's list would be full of pragmatists. Think this is the one area where I'd genuinely prefer a Levy pick to a Paratici pick as if he has it his way we'll end up with this summer's equivalent of Gattusso or Nuno.

Bit of an issue when your DoF has a huge blind spot for decent managerial choices...
 

Trix

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Thanks for the update.

Based on his record, makes absolute sense that Paratici's list would be full of pragmatists. Think this is the one area where I'd genuinely prefer a Levy pick to a Paratici pick as if he has it his way we'll end up with this summer's equivalent of Gattusso or Nuno.

Bit of an issue when your DoF has a huge blind spot for decent managerial choices...
Levy has brought in 13 managers during his 22 years and of that 13 only one of them was given a contract extension. That's a fair old list of bringing in duds and/or pulling the trigger too early. I certainly don't trust his judgement on the matter.
 
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