Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

freeeki · Mar 18, 2023

RuskyM said:
Because it’s ludicrous to suggest this is the best this team can do. How can you say the fans accept mediocrity in one post and then say Conte’s doing all he can here?

The fans accept mediocrity by paying £60 a ticket and refraining from stringing Daniel Levy from a lamppost by his bollocks for the past 20 years.

And no manager is going to achieve sustained success - relative or otherwise - with these players.

None of this is news to you or anyone else.

The Apprentice · Mar 18, 2023

if he showed half as much balls in his tactics and formations as he did in that press conference, we might not look so crap.

chas vs dave · Mar 18, 2023

freeeki said:
We are a pathetic fanbase, addicted to underperformance and memediocrity.

That's nonsense. The fans have been getting behind the players. Paying a lot of money to watch negative tactics. That's on conte.

These players are better than the performances served up.

So, the fanbase is pathetic? Give it a rest.

h2005 · Mar 18, 2023

-Afri-Coy- said:
I mean we literally knew this when we appointed him so can’t really use it as a stick to beat him with now.

Fucking hell he’s still Teflon in some eyes. Never his fault.

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 18, 2023

Bluto Blutarsky said:
Haven't we been saying that for years?

Its never fallen on Levy or the "board"

Before conte was appointed there were protests growing, until Porro was signed the fans were going to go ape shit, if conte goes and we have Mason until end of the season trust me all the reminding games will be anti levy chants, the momentum is building.

HildoSpur · Mar 18, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
I didn’t see the game today, who do you think he is referring to?

I think they all care but isn’t he more saying they have weak mentality.

Well I’d say yes and no.

Some of them perhaps likes of Dier Davies etc maybe a bit ‘soft’ but then again I don’t think the last 3 managers style of management gets the most out of the types of characters we have in our squad, they need more of the arm round the shoulder and make them feel 100ft tall like a Jol Poch or Redknapp would do not the critical shouty negative approach of Conte Jose Nuno.

The players at spurs are comfortable in their situation, no real pressure or expectations on them to win anything and getting top four is seen as a win. That's the problem here. There is no real ambition to do better and in fact he is saying players are happy with the situation and don't want the pressure of expectation. This is very damning.

chas vs dave · Mar 18, 2023

freeeki said:
The fans accept mediocrity by paying £60 a ticket and refraining from stringing Daniel Levy from a lamppost by his bollocks for the past 20 years.

And no manager is going to achieve sustained success - relative or otherwise - with these players.

None of this is news to you or anyone else.

Do you go to games? It's almost like you are singling out people who put the effort in.

Gilzeanking · Mar 18, 2023

Tuchel for me. Solid Prem experience.

DNB · Mar 18, 2023

midoshairband said:
yea but if the 3 carpenters before you had also blamed the chisels, you might expect your boss to realise sooner rather than later, he needs to buy some new fucking chisels.

I agree but it’s not necessarily the chisels but also the wood. Regardless I’d have to make better furniture than the others to justify my salary. The wood hasn’t changed but in some respects the chisels have improved

Wadec · Mar 18, 2023

Funny thing about this is the feeling towards Conte amongst the fan base and the board have probably switched following/during the press conference.

Levy will hate that conference and all the attention it will get in the media. Where as most of the fans are delighted he is saying what we are thinking.

freeeki · Mar 18, 2023

chas vs dave said:
That's nonsense. The fans have been getting behind the players. Paying a lot of money to watch negative tactics. That's on conte.

These players are better than the performances served up.

So, the fanbase is pathetic? Give it a rest.

A manager is calling out our rotten chairman, rotten club, and rotten culture.

Something we are ALL aware of.

Which - according to our fanbase on here - makes him the bad guy.

It is pathetic.

Bluto Blutarsky · Mar 18, 2023

Metalhead said:
It's clear that there is more than one answer as to why are where we are. Conte ultimately has to pay the price but Levy is clearly obviously at fault too. The DNA comment alone is a metaphor for his obvious incapability of understanding what kind of philosophy he wants to follow at the club.

@Trix nailed it a few weeks ago. There is plenty of blame to go around - Conte, Players and Levy.

Conte will lose his job over his short-comings - but the players and Levy will carry on as normal.

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Booney · Mar 18, 2023

I prefer the part in our recurrent cycle of failure when we hire a new manager and misguidedly think it will be different.

This bit is significantly less enjoyable. Having said that a manager effectively begging to be sacked is a first.

Colonel_Klinck · Mar 18, 2023

For the love of Spurs said:
If it’s an emergency appointment it’s going to have to be Poch.

We were not good under Poch for months until he got the players he wanted out and had the ones he wanted playing how he wanted. I'm not sure he would have the instant impact we hope he would.

spurs mental · Mar 18, 2023

Gilzeanking said:
Tuchel for me. Solid Prem experience.

That'll go down well with loads on here with his style, but I'd genuinely think he'd be excellent for us and help maintain heat on Levy

freeeki · Mar 18, 2023

chas vs dave said:
Do you go to games? It's almost like you are singling out people who put the effort in.

I go to a lot of games.

None of them costing £60.

wrd · Mar 18, 2023

daveduvet said:
I just wonder what EXACTLY is the problem at spurs. We can say it’s levy; but what is it about levy ? What EXACTLY is it about the board? Do they micro manage the day to day business & get involved in decisions beyond their remit? Do they put managers under pressure to play certain players because of the financial outlay & agent pressure? Do they sign players as financial acquisitions that the coach or manager does not want or need?
Thanks Antonio for what you’ve brought - you’ve been Levied

Theyre not willing to be ruthless and lose money from doing seismic changes in order to win, they'd rather the cheaper option of pandering to the assets. So we do just enough to stay competitive but won't do what needs to be done to take the final few steps because we fear the financial risk more than we crave the football reward.

midoshairband · Mar 18, 2023

DNB said:
I agree but it’s not necessarily the chisels but also the wood. Regardless I’d have to make better furniture than the others to justify my salary. The wood hasn’t changed but in some respects the chisels have improved

fucking hell mate, are you Eric Cantona?

I'll respond when I've decoded that

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 18, 2023

HildoSpur said:
The players at spurs are comfortable in their situation, no real pressure or expectations on them to win anything and getting top four is seen as a win. That's the problem here. There is no real ambition to do better and in fact he is saying players are happy with the situation and don't want the pressure of expectation. This is very damning.

That is very true and I think that comes from the top, I think that is also what conte was inferring in his comments that the clubs owners are happy to trundle along keep getting top4 but no real ambition beyond that or at least no clear plan to achieve anything great than that even if levy does keep saying he wants us to win a trophy it’s just hot air really

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