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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

RuskyM

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Again not sure what your point is?

I’m fully aware of the score today, I don’t know why you’re offering me a run down of the results. If you’re trying to audition for Lineker’s job you’re going to need to try harder.
Because it’s ludicrous to suggest this is the best this team can do. How can you say the fans accept mediocrity in one post and then say Conte’s doing all he can here?
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Conte cares. The problem is that some of our players don't.
I didn’t see the game today, who do you think he is referring to?

I think they all care but isn’t he more saying they have weak mentality.

Well I’d say yes and no.

Some of them perhaps likes of Dier Davies etc maybe a bit ‘soft’ but then again I don’t think the last 3 managers style of management gets the most out of the types of characters we have in our squad, they need more of the arm round the shoulder and make them feel 100ft tall like a Jol Poch or Redknapp would do not the critical shouty negative approach of Conte Jose Nuno.
 

Oscar22

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I mean we literally knew this when we appointed him so can’t really use it as a stick to beat him with now.
I’ll certainly use it to beat him all I like when he’s taking zero responsibility for his part in this situation.

I’ve reiterated numerous times I want the board and plenty of players gone, but making him out to be some messiah who’s had to work with dross and never stood a chance is nonsense. He’s added zero to the club, and the only way he’s won things in the past is by spending bucketloads… does he bring anything as a manager or does he just rant and rave the moment he gets found to be nothing other than a cheque book holder?
 

Darth Vega

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I just wonder what EXACTLY is the problem at spurs. We can say it’s levy; but what is it about levy ? What EXACTLY is it about the board? Do they micro manage the day to day business & get involved in decisions beyond their remit? Do they put managers under pressure to play certain players because of the financial outlay & agent pressure? Do they sign players as financial acquisitions that the coach or manager does not want or need?
Thanks Antonio for what you’ve brought - you’ve been Levied
Probably just a lack of strategy and vision. Look at every manager they've ever hired and let me know where the consistency is. It's the Abramovich model but without the money to make it work. Other than that, you can piece together various musings from the media, ITK and the way we have done a lot of our business down the years (leaving everything to the last minute, signing players managers don't ask for, derisory bids that just piss everybody off) and you almost don't need to know any more than we actually do.

In short, we have no idea what we want to be and we don't recruit well.
 

JCRD

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I'd actually say my respect for him has gone up.

This is a guy who said they get paid a lot of money to have no excuses yet all he has done is dish out excuses, bemoan lack of talent and suck off other teams. All misdirection on his own incompetency to have this team playing better than it is (as a team)

Again - not all his fault but he has accepted no responsibility - pathetic
 

samspurs92

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Although we’re enjoying him saying these things, we’re kidding ourselves if we think it will change one single thing.

The biggest and most significant problem is Levy. Until he’s gone, nothing will change.
 

hero

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The board/Levy need to change/improve as does their football strategy for sure but I don’t agree that no manager can do well under our current model especially as we’ve started to spend more money since the stadium opened, Jol, Redknapp and Poch all did very well all things considered and the right fit of manager can do well for us again.

The issue is that Jose, Nuno and Conte all play the same style and are all quite negative characters, I just don’t think they suit a club like us at all and so yes if we hire another manager in their ilk like a Simione for example and play yet more turgid defensive football then I think we will get more of the same but if we bring Poch back or get L.Enrique or De Zerbi or Kompany or possibly Tuchel etc then I think with momentum from the crowd and the right style to fit the players and club I think we can win, we’ve been very very close under Poch and if he’d had the budget Conte has had I think he’d have won us a trophy 100%.

Next managerial appointment is crucial that it’s the right fit, no more negativity no more boring Football, the players and fans need a lift and something to get excited about and believe in.
To change a strategy you need to have one. We don't have. It doesn't matter who the manager is. Read my favorite topic "youth spurs". Our academy is shit. All the top clubs have a way better academies. It is the cheapest way to get the players. Our scouting was shit. Our stadium is not a game changer. Without CL we will fall off a cliff as Newcastle has the new owners, MU are going to have the sugar daddies. Chelsea and City are financially doped. If we cannot compete financially we should be smarter. We are not.
 

fridgemagnet

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Those comments sound like someone who has either been told their services will no longer be required or someone who has decided of their own choice that they're not going to commit to anything past their current contract.

I'm fine with him digging out certain things as they needed saying but I'd have had more respect for him if he'd taken at least some token of responsibility.
I'm fine with the dig it the owners, how often do the clubs sponsors/partners only hear the party line from Levy etc? To hear the manager outright say it may at least have them having to answer some awkward questions or squirm in their seats, even if it turns out to be his last public comments as Spurs manager.

I didn't see the full match yet but the prior two games (I think this is the third) since he's returned to the touchline I've not seen much of the other members of coaching staff getting up and animated during the game (like used to happen) I do wonder if he's split the coaching staff lately; I don't know if he's lost the dressing room yet as said I've not seen this match but previously they were still playing for him.
 

Metalhead

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It's clear that there is more than one answer as to why are where we are. Conte ultimately has to pay the price but Levy is clearly obviously at fault too. The DNA comment alone is a metaphor for his obvious incapability of understanding what kind of philosophy he wants to follow at the club.
 

midoshairband

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Tbh this is perfect isn’t it, conte will go but he’s gone out swinging at the board so if levy doesn’t get this next one right that’s it all the heat now goes towards the board, it’s the best thing that could’ve happened in a way for him to do this publicly.

THST will be all over these quotes haha.

That being said Conte was never the right fit just like Jose and Nuno clones before him.

Time for a positive attacking manager please.

come on. we were all led to believe Levy had seen the light and knew what needed to be done when Conte got top 4.

it's all bollocks. and not a single fucking thing will change at this club until Levy and Enic are gone.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Reminds me of what Ronaldo said about United before he left, he’s not wrong. This club is an absolute mess and it all starts from the very top.
Agree yet Ronaldo leaves and they win a cup and are doing well in the league and building under ten Haag so like with us it’s not quite that black and white I don’t think.
 

spurs mental

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Tbh this is perfect isn’t it, conte will go but he’s gone out swinging at the board so if levy doesn’t get this next one right that’s it all the heat now goes towards the board, it’s the best thing that could’ve happened in a way for him to do this publicly.

THST will be all over these quotes haha.

That being said Conte was never the right fit just like Jose and Nuno clones before him.

Time for a positive attacking manager please.
Makes a mockery on the clubs last answers to THST too doesn't it?

He's probably gone over the IB, I'll be surprised if he's not gone by tomorrow to be honest, so much heat on Levy now. But we've needed this since before Poch left.
 

wrd

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Just saying he adds fuck all with his 15m paycheck. Nada

Right and what relevance does this have to the importance that we finally have a manager call out how he see's it. I'll explain why it's irrelevant to be clear; we have had managers who have made excuses and have failed and gone into self preservation mode in the past, none have called the board out directly. Thats why what you're saying is irrelevant to the crux of the point.
 

Johnny J

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I just wonder what EXACTLY is the problem at spurs. We can say it’s levy; but what is it about levy ? What EXACTLY is it about the board? Do they micro manage the day to day business & get involved in decisions beyond their remit? Do they put managers under pressure to play certain players because of the financial outlay & agent pressure? Do they sign players as financial acquisitions that the coach or manager does not want or need?
Thanks Antonio for what you’ve brought - you’ve been Levied
The problem is ultimately that altho Levy DOES actually care about Spurs and wants us to win trophies and titles, he goes about it the wrong way because thinks he knows better about football than football people do. Fantastic at the commercial stuff, needs to hire Rangnick or whomever to run the football side.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Nobody is disputing what Conte says is true but it’s also true he’s a massive hypocrite who has hugely underperformed this season and is only saying these things to protect his reputation and/or get a quick pay out.

What he’s saying is not coming from a good place and that’s why people are taking issue with what he has said.
 
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