Not many teams in recent years will take 6 points off City two seasons in a row, so whilst factual the comparison is a bit harsh. Newcastle, Villa and Woolwich at home, Leicester and Wolves away are where the dropped points hurt the most, because we would expect to take some points from those games.
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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Not many teams in recent years will take 6 points off City two seasons in a row, so whilst factual the comparison is a bit harsh. Newcastle, Villa and Woolwich at home, Leicester and Wolves away are where the dropped points hurt the most, because we would expect to take some points from those games.
I think the Seffield Utd defeat and the abject failure to lay a glove on Milan in the space of a week have really hurt us all. The FA Cup especially as I think we could see a final on the horizon. Coupled with the turgid football, I understand why so many fans want Conte out, even though I would give him the time he is asking for.
I don't think the FA Cup defeat is all on him. Son, Richie and Moura should be good enough to score a goal against a lower league team (albeit they look like being Prem in a few months). And for those that say he should have started Kane and put the tie to bed, what that means is you acknowledge the squad is not good enough to beat a Championship side who had several regulars missing themselves. I think that says more about the depth / quality of our squad than it does our manager.
If you would - please indulge me for a moment, below is our 25 man prem squad, that contains 4 goalkeepers. Imagine none of them currently play for Tottenham but that they all become available in the summer, how many of them would you be urging Levy to sign -forget about transfer fees and wages and concentrate on who out of the 25 you would really want and be excited about us signing.
Loris
Forster
Whiteman
Austin
Royal
Porro
Tanganga
Sanchez
Romero
Dier
Lenglet
Davies
Sessignon
Perisic
PEH
Skipp
Bentancur
Bissouma
Sarr
Son
Kane
Richarlison
Kulsevski
Moura
Danjuma
I don't think the FA Cup defeat is all on him. Son, Richie and Moura should be good enough to score a goal against a lower league team (albeit they look like being Prem in a few months). And for those that say he should have started Kane and put the tie to bed, what that means is you acknowledge the squad is not good enough to beat a Championship side who had several regulars missing themselves. I think that says more about the depth / quality of our squad than it does our manager.
If you would - please indulge me for a moment, below is our 25 man prem squad, that contains 4 goalkeepers. Imagine none of them currently play for Tottenham but that they all become available in the summer, how many of them would you be urging Levy to sign -forget about transfer fees and wages and concentrate on who out of the 25 you would really want and be excited about us signing.
Loris
Forster
Whiteman
Austin
Royal
Porro
Tanganga
Sanchez
Romero
Dier
Lenglet
Davies
Sessignon
Perisic
PEH
Skipp
Bentancur
Bissouma
Sarr
Son
Kane
Richarlison
Kulsevski
Moura
Danjuma
He hasn't asked for big financial backing, he asked for time and patience to lay the foundation and change the mentality at Tottenham. He even said that while spending big might improve your position (I think his actual word was 'propensity') it does not guarantee success (something I've been saying for years)
bubble07
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Liverpool and Chelsea having their worst seasons but Newcastle and arsenal having their best seasons
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easley91
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Said it to my dad that Richy looked like he was playing with a chip on his shoulder and a point to prove. Him and Son were much better yesterday. Shame Richy's goal didn't count, he had a good game and I enjoyed his link up play down the right with Porro.
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But that's a debate for another thread.....
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Lucky that Antonio didn't read that or he might get upset.
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But that's a debate for another thread.....
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Makes sense. It was always hard to imagine him leaving sooner. Yesterday showed that whilst it wasn't a classic performance, the players are with him.
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We won. We played on the front foot. We won.
I’m sure you’ll say otherwise, but it really comes across that you’re actually furious that we won because it keeps him in a job.
That may not be fair or accurate, but that’s what I take from yours and other similar posts
I’m sure you’ll say otherwise, but it really comes across that you’re actually furious that we won because it keeps him in a job.
That may not be fair or accurate, but that’s what I take from yours and other similar posts
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We need more patience. Can't keep starting again all the time.
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I think it’s more that it’s clear this isn’t even a dead cat bounce, because we know he’s going. We aren’t winning anything this season so it kind of makes all of this a little pointless.
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I get that on one level. Personally though, Im just wanting us to play on the front front and get good results. Ill be happy with that for the rest of the season
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Patience is futile without a plan and more importantly ambition. Waiting 23 years there are no more patient fans than Spurs, any other of the top teams had the success we’ve had in that time there would be an uprising. We’re a top 10 wealthy club, a stadium that demands challenging for titles, we need no longer accept the chains the owners put on us.
If we’re just getting managers in for the aesthetics but ultimately the goal is CL money with the same strategies that have brought us little success ie giving the manager young players he doesn’t want or better still whatever random player happens to be available on loan or free what’s the point in patience? We’ll still not get anywhere and you’re just being patient for more of the same.
Asking for patience with owners that have a clear plan and are ambitious to reach the top is something altogether different…
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Yeah , I think this is the best way to go about things.
Secure top 4 and part amicably giving the new man the whole preseason whilst planning from afar.
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Or he's not being fickle like some in this thread. Honestly, some posters here are quick to throw out neg ratings on people who maintain Conte isn't the right man regardless of a win over a shitty Forest. It's clear to anyone he's not the right fit, isn't going to commit to the long-term, and simply isn't what we need. And yet people like you have to have a dig at people being consistent. Who cares if we beat Forest? It doesn't take away from the shit football or going out of three cups against very beatable opposition. He has a worse record than AVB and is playing even worse football. One win doesn't take away from that.
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Assuming that means before the next one starts
He means in 2052 I think
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I’m sure that is currently the case and makes the most sense. I will still say tho that if we start loosing badly and consistently he will leave sooner. Also, if he does see out the season there is zero excuse to not have his replacement lined up for the day after he leaves.
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Thing is it's easy to have this mindset or to feel that it makes sense after a win. Prior to yesterday everyone was up in arms regarding him still being here. I'm not saying sacking him now is 100% the right thing to do, I just mean the perception changes so easily. If we fail to beat Saints and Everton away all of a sudden it will once again look like we need to change something to salvage the season.
I just mean that I agree in that keeping him now seems the right thing, but I don't know how I'll feel if we conjure up two shit away performances next, which is far from outside the realm of possibility.
I'm very sceptical regarding where we stand as a team right now. The performance yesterday even though good, didn't really change anything for me in that regard.
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