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Could you imagine Spurs being done by brexit.... only spurs!So we should extend article 50 then, no?
Could you imagine Spurs being done by brexit.... only spurs!So we should extend article 50 then, no?
Originally Posted by norskire
There are many reasons to worry - just not ones that include "re-writing software in panels" (can't re-write something that never existed), "replacing all panels" (I seem to have seen quite a bit of electricity in use in the gaff these last few months), or any of the other stuff that sounds all technical and ITK but doesn't mean doodleysquat and which you keep re-posting here, especially from one particular twitterer. Whatever else may be wrong and irresponsible with such silly repetition of absolute codswallop, it also triggers all the nervous nellies, "Indignant from Tunbridge Wells", Daily Hate-Mailers, and other members of the green-ink brigade into activity (see below) which, I suspect, may even be the real motive behind it all anyway:
As far as I could glean from talking to building control people, the issue now is that the contractor and club have decided not to pursue the original certification path that had formed the basis of the original schedule for completion of Phase Two. Because of the time taken to check and re-certify both the integrated safety control system and its underlying electrical network all parties have now decided in the interests of speed and economy to incorporate the safety certification into the sign-off certification process, and at the moment this is being negotiated. Using this approach both Haringey and the club require the principal contractor basically to produce all the certification for each outstanding installation in one package (big implications for liability there which both Mace and the club had shied away from in their original roll-out strategy). This needs to be done in a manner and over a period in which the test events and other items of scrutiny for which Haringey building control are responsible can be undertaken as part of the sign-off process (the "Phase Two" sign-off now being a major part of the occupancy permit, which it wasn't before). The implications of this new delivery strategy are obvious, I would have thought, and explain very much the tone and content of the club's recent updates.
If I really wanted to adopt flashspur's discombobulated jitters and indignant angst-venting when thinking about how and when this construction project will pan out, I would probably concentrate less on what so far has been quite a usual complication that exists in delivery of big builds, and instead think ahead with no small amount of nervy dread to what happens in just a few weeks time with regard to NDP's viability in the face of Britain crashing out of EU customs agreements, labour mobility agreements, and all the other international trade facilities provided through EU membership and which this construction has utilised to the full - a construction that is now about to enter a final building phase on which the whole economic viability of the project was ultimately dependent.
No software or panels were harmed in the making of this stadium ... just the feelings of some rather entitled and ill-informed opinion-junkies.
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John laing lasalles? Used to work with them in curzon street thought they were just glorified estate agents.
Think you might be thinking of Jones Lang Lasalle? Property investment/managing agents, rather than building contractors.
Regardless, I think at this stage we all wish it was someone other than Mace!
My bad. Good few years ago now.
As far as I could glean from talking to building control people
What about the building control people he spoke to who don't seem to have given an opinion just confirmed the change in process to get the certification sign off, that seemed pretty certain didn't it? It's not something I've seen anywhere else so surely that is new information isn't it?I read that and asked the simple question - what makes him such an authority?
Yes, he's used lots of long words making him sound clever. What he hasn't done is provide any evidence he's an authority in the field of fire alarm panels, how they work in 2019, what has happened and how he knows about it.
It's literally a long winded post having a pop at people, as he always does. There's a few of them.
Certain and pretty detailed.What about the building control people he spoke to who don't seem to have given an opinion just confirmed the change in process to get the certification sign off, that seemed pretty certain didn't it?
I think it’s 100% the reason it’s happened. By all accounts the chaos on the site at the end of the summer led to too many shortcuts and mistakes being made and avoidable problems being created.I still can’t shake the feeling that our haste to rush the job and employing the only construction managers who were prepared to work to our schedule has indirectly led to the situation we find ourselves in.
I think it’s 100% the reason it’s happened. By all accounts the chaos on the site at the end of the summer led to too many shortcuts and mistakes being made and avoidable problems being created.
I’m still somewhat swayed by the idea of sabotage in this fire panel business. But then, even if it was done on purpose, it shouldn’t have even been possible if the site had been properly managed.I try to say this to the mrs. Sometimes slowing down a job can actually get it done quicker.
Almost always forget something when I rush. Wallet, keys, cutlery for the little one, 30,000 wires for a fire control panel, you know the things.
It's so wonderfully Spursy for Brexit to fuck up our stadium/season/life.
What has brexit got to do with the fire panel?
Yes, Chris Cowlin is there again.Is there not an invitation thing tonight for East stand ?
I think it’s 100% the reason it’s happened. By all accounts the chaos on the site at the end of the summer led to too many shortcuts and mistakes being made and avoidable problems being created.
Yes but not by much but it will involve doing what Man City did and extending the seats downwards but it will mean removing the removable pitchRandom question but is it expandable beyond 62000?