Match Threads Spurs vs Arsenal

[tevezito]

It's absolutely crystal clear. He barges into Vic as the corner is being struck, before he could remotely claim that he was going for the ball, with the simple intention of putting him off balance / a yard back. It's a foul all day long and it would have been given if it wasn't the keeper and probably also if other teams hadn't tried similar but less forceful 'tactics' previously

I mean, it was a very similar barge to the one in the lead up to Chelsea's winner against Villa yesterday, wasn't it? So if that one wasn't given, we can't complain. Oh wait...

He wasn’t crap at all. He played well in fact, mush better than Bentancur and Maddison.

Better than Maddison maybe, but disagree about Bentancur. For me, Hojbjerg Is massively at fault for the Saka goal. He is right next to him as Arsenal start developing the move and just lets him run off into acres of open space, and jogs back so slowly he even gets overtaken by another Arsenal player. That's about as crap as it gets.

 

[Finchyid]

I would go as far to say that Oliver is the worst ref in the prem and that was the worst refereeing performance I have seen in a long time. How tommytwat wasn’t booked is beyond me. How kulu was first player booked and how do you miss every thing is just uncomprehendable

 

[DenverSpur]

Other sides get those given, we feel a double whammy of no penalty and they run up the other end and score...

How Oliver doesn't give the penalty in the second half straight away is beyond me too, 5 yards away looking straight at it as Rice boots Davies. Second penalty all season

Ange had an interesting take on that in his match interview. As far as he’s concerned matches are refereed by VAR and the in field referee doesn’t bother to make decisions anymore, especially big important ones, but just waits for VAR to tell him what the decision is. You could say this is borne out by the penalty we WERE given. Oliver is 5 feet away looking at Rice clearly kick Davies yet made no decision until VAR told him to.

 

[DenverSpur]

The analysis is horrendous.

The football analysts along with the journalists make up a narrative depending on the result and also depending on the related story of one or more of the teams, but not in what actually happened over the 90 minutes. So Arsenal going for the title 3-0 up at half time obviously must have been the better team and in the second half they let Tottenham back into it. That 2 of their goals were from set pieces and that they created very little from open play is not mentioned. Neither is Us having a very close offside goal denied, hitting the post and a decent penalty claim turned down( which led to their 2nd goal) mentioned because it doesn’t fit the narrative that title chasing Arsenal deservedly triumphed.

 

[BH_spurs]

European refs call out the fouls and dirty tricks the scum do at set pieces a lot more than the PL refs. Which is why they had hardly any success with corners in the champions league.

 

[1882andallthat]

One positive was that we finally got another penalty

And another bonus is the way Son pretty much dispatched it in no nonsense fashion even after it was held up for quite a while before it was taken. One positive is that I’ve seen no evidence in a drop off of how Son puts away penalties from the way Kane used to for us.

 

[allatsea]

And another bonus is the way Son pretty much dispatched it in no nonsense fashion even after it was held up for quite a while before it was taken. One positive is that I’ve seen no evidence in a drop off of how Son puts away penalties from the way Kane used to for us.

Agree but to be fair we have had hardly any penalties since Kane left.

 

[1882andallthat]

It's absolutely crystal clear. He barges into Vic as the corner is being struck, before he could remotely claim that he was going for the ball, with the simple intention of putting him off balance / a yard back. It's a foul all day long and it would have been given if it wasn't the keeper and probably also if other teams hadn't tried similar but less forceful 'tactics' previously

It was a carbon copy of a he tactics Man City deployed in the last couple of minutes. If refs are going to tolerate these kind of tactics then we must find a way of dealing with it by clearing the buggers out of the way and Vic will hopefully become more assertive and no nonsense going forward and not stand for it.

 

[1882andallthat]

Agree but to be fair we have had hardly any penalties since Kane left.

We haven’t had the same ratio of them but what’s encouraging is that Son doesn’t seem at all phased by them when we’ve got them.

 

[spurs mental]

I know we got the penalty in the end, but how the ****ing fuck did he not give this in real time. Seriously it's bordering on cheating. He's staring at it. There's no way he could have missed it.

 

[DaiT]

The overall standard of officiating in the EPL is abysmal. The match referee seems frightened to make a decision and leaves it to VAR. Do not understand why we dont have the semi-automated offside technology.
IF Oliver is the best we have then the EPL is in serious trouble.
There were mistakes made today and there always will be mistakes but VAR is taking away the experience of the LIVE game and I would much rather we go back to what it used to be and I know it wont happen.

 

[DaiT]

I know we got the penalty in the end, but how the ****ing fuck did he not give this in real time. Seriously it's bordering on cheating. He's staring at it. There's no way he could have missed it.

And no yellow card or actually it should be a red based on Romero red early season

 

[spurs mental]

And no yellow card or actually it should be a red based on Romero red early season

Actually a great point that was never even mentioned on commentary or in the analysis.

 

[RuskyM]

Still seething that both the VDV goal gets disallowed (Tomiyasu tries to clear it, he just fucks it up, and we're the ones punished for that?) and the Kulu pen gets ignored and we're then 0-2 down within about three minutes. How do you stand a chance when that happens?

We've things we need to work on but fuck me you need some luck.

 

[spurs mental]

Still seething that what probably should've been 1-1 with the stadium rocking went to 0-2 within two minutes, and then what should've been a pen at 0-2 went to 0-3 within minutes and the game's basically done.

Yeah, that shouldn't happen because there's things we need to work on, but we were pretty good to start yesterday and it's difficult to stand a chance when no decisions seem to go your way.

Yeah, on reflection we matched them well yesterday and bettered them across most of the pitch for a large portion, but knowing our faults at set pieces it was hard to swallow the way we conceded.

And we got absolutely no luck or help from the officials at all. I wish Ange was harder and more outspoken. It would definitely benefit us. Look at everything Arsenal got yesterday, and everything Liverpool and City get.

It's good to act with class the way Ange does, but if he just had a few nibbles now and again when things go against us it would do no harm.

Poch said a few words on Saturday. Watch them get everything midweek now.

 

[RuskyM]

Yeah, on reflection we matched them well yesterday and bettered them across most of the pitch for a large portion, but knowing our faults at set pieces it was hard to swallow the way we conceded.

And we got absolutely no luck or help from the officials at all. I wish Ange was harder and more outspoken. It would definitely benefit us. Look at everything Arsenal got yesterday, and everything Liverpool and City get.

It's good to act with class the way Ange does, but if he just had a few nibbles now and again when things go against us it would do no harm.

Poch said a few words on Saturday. Watch them get everything midweek now.

It's the difficult thing because I compare Ange to the dickhead in the opposition box and I'd much rather have Ange. I want us to win, and I want us to win without having to justify the shitty behaviour of the face of the club.

 

[michaelj70]

European refs call out the fouls and dirty tricks the scum do at set pieces a lot more than the PL refs. Which is why they had hardly any success with corners in the champions league.

A really good point .... Had foreign players, managers etc ....its time for foreign refs ... Does not help English sides in Europe if they are used to this crap level of reffing (including even craper VAR)

 

[easley91]

I can understand Oliver not giving the Kulu penalty in real time as it took me umpteen times to rewatch it to see Trossard(?) makes contact.

It's the fact it barely got checked and brushed over that does me in. As well as Oliver blatantly looking at Davies being booted in the crown jewels and he DIDN'T give it initially.

I've never been one for corruption and just thought they're all crap officials here, but when you see Chelsea's goal disallowed the night before for something that is allowed the next day? The inconsistencies are getting worse by the match.

But anyway play like that with better set piece defending and we'll be fine.

 

[Dov67]

Agree mate it felt incredible, then I turned to my old man and said ah but bet it was offside , every goal is these days and then it happened and our momentum was killed, fine margins.

I still don’t even think it was bloody offside.

Mabye Forest can tweet the PL to say the VAR was a gooner this week.

I barely even celebrated, whereas usually I’d have been going nuts

just had a feeling

 

[gavspur]

The ref was crap. But what was even crapper was our defending corners. So naive. And even worse, was our attacking corners. I’m all for loyalty, but we are seriously lacking here, if someone is not up to the job, you need to replace them with someone who is.