Sol Campbell wants to be one of the greatest British managers ever

[aliyid]

On Sky Sports coverage today already shown zero personality with single word / cliched answers giving nothing for the presenter to work with

 

[whitechina]

On Sky Sports coverage today already shown zero personality with single word / cliched answers giving nothing for the presenter to work with

I'm not watching Sky- but what more would anyone expect? he's terrible every time I've seen/ heard him speak

 

[sebo_sek]

No issue with him saying it. Campbell deserves to be called out. Not sure filming yourself giving him abuse to show off about it on the internet is anything but a bit cringe though to be honest.

Mate it was 2 decades ago...

 

['O Zio]

Mate it was 2 decades ago...

He says in response to a post from nearly 2 months ago...

 

[sebo_sek]

He says in response to a post from nearly 2 months ago...

Oh whistle on. A grown man publicly calling a long retired footballer a Judas **** has got some serious issues.

 

['O Zio]

Oh whistle on. A grown man publicly calling a long retired footballer a Judas **** has got some serious issues.

If you screw people over and act like a **** then you can't complain when you get called out for it IMO.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

My daughter set a video of our grandchildren booing him at the Gooners match (on Sky) yesterday. Silly but it made us laugh.

 

[Marty]

Every now and again a Football 365 writer gets tasked with an impossible job.

Sol Campbell has earned the managerial chance Gerrard, Lampard were gifted

Sol Campbell was doomed with Macclesfield and Southend while his golden generation cohorts were given jobs with the elite. How is that fair?

www.football365.com

In this article, supposedly in Campbell's defence, the writer spends most of the paragraphs listing all the reasons why owners, fans and players are wary of Campbell. And then he concludes that he should be given a job anyway because reasons (reading between the lines: racism).

The mental gymnastics here are hilarious.

 

[Klinsmannic]

Every now and again a Football 365 writer gets tasked with an impossible job.

Sol Campbell has earned the managerial chance Gerrard, Lampard were gifted

Sol Campbell was doomed with Macclesfield and Southend while his golden generation cohorts were given jobs with the elite. How is that fair?

www.football365.com

In this article, supposedly in Campbell's defence, the writer spends most of the paragraphs listing all the reasons why owners, fans and players are wary of Campbell. And then he concludes that he should be given a job anyway because reasons (reading between the lines: racism).

The mental gymnastics here are hilarious.

If the author believed racism is a factor in him not getting another job, they should have said that explicitly. Implying it just makes the article weak. The lack of black managers is a real problem and we should be calling it out in my view.

The one thing I did like in the article was the context around his failures at Macclesfield and Southend- on the surface it looks like Campbell totally flopped but there were huge financial challenges (ultimately existential in Macclesfield's case).

I think one of the many reasons for Campbell not getting a top job whereas Gerrard and Lampard have, is that Campbell was never a hero figure for any of his clubs or for England, unlike the other two who were both local and national darlings. It's not like all white players get top jobs either- look at Barton and Bowyer for example.

Campbell needs another lower league / Championship job and prove himself there. That could be a stepping stone for a PL job in the future.

 

[brendanb50]

If the author believed racism is a factor in him not getting another job, they should have said that explicitly. Implying it just makes the article weak. The lack of black managers is a real problem and we should be calling it out in my view.

The one thing I did like in the article was the context around his failures at Macclesfield and Southend- on the surface it looks like Campbell totally flopped but there were huge financial challenges (ultimately existential in Macclesfield's case).

I think one of the many reasons for Campbell not getting a top job whereas Gerrard and Lampard have, is that Campbell was never a hero figure for any of his clubs or for England, unlike the other two who were both local and national darlings. It's not like all white players get top jobs either- look at Barton and Bowyer for example.

Campbell needs another lower league / Championship job and prove himself there. That could be a stepping stone for a PL job in the future.

Agreed. On your last point; i hope he doesn't but fully agree.

 

[dontcallme]

If the author believed racism is a factor in him not getting another job, they should have said that explicitly. Implying it just makes the article weak. The lack of black managers is a real problem and we should be calling it out in my view.

The one thing I did like in the article was the context around his failures at Macclesfield and Southend- on the surface it looks like Campbell totally flopped but there were huge financial challenges (ultimately existential in Macclesfield's case).

I think one of the many reasons for Campbell not getting a top job whereas Gerrard and Lampard have, is that Campbell was never a hero figure for any of his clubs or for England, unlike the other two who were both local and national darlings. It's not like all white players get top jobs either- look at Barton and Bowyer for example.

Campbell needs another lower league / Championship job and prove himself there. That could be a stepping stone for a PL job in the future.

It's also worth listening to Campbel in interviews. He comes across as a complete fool. There's no way he'd be hired on the strength of his interview.

 

[brendanb50]

It's also worth listening to Campbel in interviews. He comes across as a complete fool. There's no way he'd be hired on the strength of his interview.

I always feel like he's trying to get something across that isn't there, like it's an act. There's nothing about his interviews or TV work that feels natural or insightful, conversely, it always comes off to me as muddled and vague and often with an air of pseudo-intellectualism about it.

 

[hellava_tough]

It's also worth listening to Campbel in interviews. He comes across as a complete fool. There's no way he'd be hired on the strength of his interview.

That might be going a little far, but he certainly doesn't come across as charismatic, or above average intelligence or even as someone who knows the game inside out.

To be honest, he comes across as pretty arrogant, without the charisma or brains to back it up.

Which is the worst type of arrogant.

 

[dontcallme]

That might be going a little far, but he certainly doesn't come across as charismatic, or above average intelligence or even as someone who knows the game inside out.

To be honest, he comes across as pretty arrogant, without the charisma or brains to back it up.

Which is the worst type of arrogant.

 

[hellava_tough]

Okay, point taken

 

[Houdini]

He's 48yrs old and has made no real headway in serious management...his problems stem from his attitude and that massive chip on his shoulder.
No club will hire anyone with those drawbacks....although I wish Arsenal would!

 

[dontcallme]

Paul Ince got a job at a small club in a poor situation and did really well. This led to him getting a Prem job.

Sol got a chance and did an OK job at Macclesfield but he hasn't done anything to earn a bigger job.

 

[Marty]

Paul Ince got a job at a small club in a poor situation and did really well. This led to him getting a Prem job.

Sol got a chance and did an OK job at Macclesfield but he hasn't done anything to earn a bigger job.

And Ince proved to have been promoted well above his capabilities and was quickly sacked.

 

[dontcallme]

And Ince proved to have been promoted well above his capabilities and was quickly sacked.

Yes. But my point is once you get on that managerial ladder you have to do a job to a level that attracts a bigger job. Paul Ince did that but then failed at a bigger job.

Campbel simply hasn't done anything to make a chairman of a bigger club think he's the man for them.

 

['O Zio]

It's also worth listening to Campbel in interviews. He comes across as a complete fool. There's no way he'd be hired on the strength of his interview.

Spot on. There's a clip earlier in this thread of him discussing his woes on talksport and he manages to come across as thick as pig shit and unbelievably arrogant at the same time. It's no surprise at all that he isn't considered for bigger jobs.