nailsy
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I'm not sure they would gain anything by making an example of someone who has lost a kid though.
Jake Livermore tests positive for cocaine
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I'm not sure they would gain anything by making an example of someone who has lost a kid though.
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It's not making an example of someone if you apply the same rules as you normally would.
It's just putting the FA in a position where the next time this happens they have to decide what level of emotional trauma constitutes enough of a shock to allow someone to take drugs.
Nobody would be stopping him training, and perhaps he should be permitted to play for the reserves etc, but for me that should be the club's decision.
Rout-Ledge
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The FA has always been arbitrary and inconsistent in its approach.
In this instance from a totally objective perspective then they have made a bad decision. I can't help but feel pleased for Livermore though, as, despite him having made a very bad error of judgment, I wouldn't want to see his career go down the toilet for it. Especially after having gone through some wretched personal trauma.
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I'm certainly not calling for him to have his career ruined. Ferdinand I think was banned for 7-8 months, and that time out for a player is not career ending, particularly if the club stick by him. It may even give a player time to sort out things in their head.
Misfit
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Only people who should be pissed about this are Spurs. There's no doubt several clauses etc about physical fitness etc and wrt insurance liability and so on in the various contracts. Otherwise, mebbe it's just me, a big fat meh when it comes to recreational drug use.
As an aside, him losing a child had completely escaped me. There are no words.
Edited because I am a plum incapable of expressing myself fully at the first try. Hull, not Spurs.
As an aside, him losing a child had completely escaped me. There are no words.
Edited because I am a plum incapable of expressing myself fully at the first try. Hull, not Spurs.
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Chris12
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Why should Spurs be pissed?Only people who should be pissed about this are Spurs. There's no several clauses etc about physical fitness etc and wrt insurance liability and so on. Otherwise, mebbe it's just me, a big fat meh when it comes to recreational drug use.
As an aside, him losing a child had completely escaped me. There are no words.
Misfit
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Well not even pissed really but I'd imagine they wouldn't like an investment, which players are to a club, to be up to anything other than being in bed by 9 each night. Maybe push the bed time to 10 so they can watch a Miss Marple or something.
Chris12
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So surely Hull should be pissed?
Misfit
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Ha. Yes. I'm having a great day so far. I was thinking Hull each time in my head. But nope, there it is. My sausage-like fingers bashed out Spurs instead.
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Good.
A panel that has taken into account all the factors, needs to be extended to a lot more areas in life.
Can we start with the gutter press please?
Misfit
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Hey man. Are rocks mountain babies? Woah right?
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So people who lose a kid, aren't subject to our laws then? It's crap, it's not nice losing a kid, but he's done wrong in his profession and should be punished as such.
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Well one assumes any guilt is to do with the possession of said drugs as simply ingesting drugs is itself is not illegal is it? Nt exactly sure abut that but they do most people for possession. The taking of it, unless it leads to harming another person or property, isn't really the concern.
Although if he was an alcoholic, no harm no foul I guess. Drugs are bad m'kay. Except the thousands that are legal. Especially the ones parents and schools shove into their kids during their development. A boisterous child? Yee Gads! Most societies have a very iffy grasp on morality when it comes to drugs.
/dirty hippy
Although if he was an alcoholic, no harm no foul I guess. Drugs are bad m'kay. Except the thousands that are legal. Especially the ones parents and schools shove into their kids during their development. A boisterous child? Yee Gads! Most societies have a very iffy grasp on morality when it comes to drugs.
/dirty hippy
tony_parkes
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"it's not nice losing a kid"
Can I assume you don't have children of your own?
If I am wrong and you do in fact have children, you are either an emotional retard or are very bad at expressing oneself.
Yid_Summers
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I do have children, just the one. Not an emotional retard, or bad at expressing myself.
I don't agree with letting him off, all because his child die. That'd be like me losing my daughter, then smashing someone's face in and getting away with it, because i was grieving.
He was an idiot and did something wrong, I'll say it again, it's not nice losing a child. It's not an excuse and doesn't exempt you from the laws.
If he wasn't a former Yid, he'd be castrated on here. If you don't like how I've 'Expressed' myself then that's your problem. It's my opinion, one I'm entitled to have. If you don't like it, rate it as such, move on or ignore me. It's that easy
tony_parkes
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I do have children, just the one. Not an emotional retard, or bad at expressing myself.
I don't agree with letting him off, all because his child die. That'd be like me losing my daughter, then smashing someone's face in and getting away with it, because i was grieving.
He was an idiot and did something wrong, I'll say it again, it's not nice losing a child. It's not an excuse and doesn't exempt you from the laws.
If he wasn't a former Yid, he'd be castrated on here. If you don't like how I've 'Expressed' myself then that's your problem. It's my opinion, one I'm entitled to have. If you don't like it, rate it as such, move on or ignore me. It's that easy
My empathy was blinded by him being a former yid, you are correct, castration would be the only way forward if he hadn't played a few minutes for Spurs.
You are entitled to your harsh and unforgiving opinion, may it bring much happiness and self righteousness.
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I don't agree with letting him off, all because his child die. That'd be like me losing my daughter, then smashing someone's face in and getting away with it, because i was grieving.
He was an idiot and did something wrong, I'll say it again, it's not nice losing a child. It's not an excuse and doesn't exempt you from the laws.
If he wasn't a former Yid, he'd be castrated on here. If you don't like how I've 'Expressed' myself then that's your problem. It's my opinion, one I'm entitled to have. If you don't like it, rate it as such, move on or ignore me. It's that easy
No, it really wouldn't. Livermore hasn't hurt anyone, he's just made a mistake under extremely difficult circumstances and the FA have thankfully used common sense to settle the matter within their own rules and guidelines.
