Fredo
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Sorry if I come across overdramatic. I'm just desperate for success for our club.
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wrd
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Well yeah but Paratici has taken on the responsibility as DoF and is charged with finding players and building a squad for the manager to compete with, whilst yes in regards to the success of Spurs ultimately rests on Levy's shoulders, Paratici is in a hugely important prestigious position, no good saying Levy is responsible for everything as it's like saying if Dier concedes a penalty tomorrow then Levy is responsible because the buck stops with him, ultimately there's different pressures for the different roles and as far as I see it if we sell Kane then the pressure is on Paratici to do the job we're paying him to do. If he fails then yeah Levy will get some pelters for making a poor hire but it'll be Paratici who didn't do his job.
McFlash
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Screaming the same thing over and over on a fan forum isn't going to help.
We all want the club to be successful, just that some of us have learnt to tone things down at times like this.
wrd
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But it says under your username Realist so I don't know what to believe
paulcumpstone
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Im fairly torn still. On one hand i dont want to leave us short but on the other i also dont want a sulky player that doesnt want to be here so if the offer comes thats acceptable to the club, providing they can still get adequate replacements in id still let him go.
wrd
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Mate fuck me, I didn't ask for the soundbite to your political campaign, I was just joking with you because of the juxtaposition of somebody with realist in their title saying they're being overdramatic.
easley91
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You know where you are right?
cliff jones
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Trix
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Well I'm sure the more you post your angst on here, the more successful we will become.
wrd
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If it comes out that Levy has sold Kane against Paratici wishes then that’d be on Levy but given the info we have that it’s supposedly Levy who didn’t want to sell and Paratici is the one suggesting it might be better for us, I’m basing it off that.
Personally I don’t see a scenario where Levy is selling without strong assurances from Paratici.
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walworthyid
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Let me just preface this: I'm not saying for a moment that you specifically would "change your mind" about how you regard Kane; I think the extent to which individual fans are treated as fickle is massively overstated sometimes. At the risk of sounding like I'm defending them, I was always a bit frustrated when Chelsea got Benitez and pundits like Hansen were saying he'd be forgiven by the fans for his past comments if he won a few matches. I think it's patronising and wrong, and that was borne out by the fact that a lot of Chelsea fans still couldn't stand Benitez even though he ultimately had some success with them.
But if Kane stayed and we won stuff with him as top scorer/a highly influential player, in addition to his previous work, this saga wouldn't be a big part of the overall narrative (in the same way Rooney/Gerrard both wanting to leave in 2010/2005 were ultimately footnotes). The way Berbatov (and, honestly, Keane) left was pretty vile to me, but he was still treated as a legend when we opened the new stadium - I'd have wanted both to steer well clear, personally, and have never really forgiven either man, but there they both were. If Berbatov can recover from the way he left and went to a reprehensible club, Kane can recover from this and then some.
Basically what I'm saying is that "never" is a very strong word; I'm not dismissing you or anyone else in this thread, and whether your feelings towards him would change or not. But were Kane to stay and succeed, history suggests that the overarching narrative and feeling toward him from the majority would eventually be a positive one. Given enough time. If in 10 years we were to do a big event somewhat similar to the closure of WHL and Kane was there, I at least don't think he gets booed. For me personally, I don't know if I'll ever think of him the same way even if he stays until he retires, but time helps with that sort of thing.
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walworthyid
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This thread is hilarious. People need to chill the f**k out!
Colonel Dax
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Ron Burgundy
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that’s just not enough. I can understand why they wouldn’t pay 150, but the Grealish deal, rightly or wrongly, has set a benchmark
However…Look at the major deals in football history - in the majority of them, the seller ends up looking like they got the better deal.
140, if done in the next few days, would probably tempt me
Ron Burgundy
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totally agree. Feels like they thought they could get good value once he agitated.
Now the can’t, there’s a reasonable chance they walk away.
What a bunch of twats
