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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

longtimespur

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We all know what is wrong... so we didnt need him


And what do you think, what he said would achieve out of interest? You think Levy is going to go walkies because Conte aired laundry? I

Yes we did it's already got reported about his outburst. it will sure get the press pushing for answers. It's about time the hierarchy had some pressure from the media. Hopefully it will generate fans going to matches start calling out Levy more. Especially when it's a game covered by TV.
 

Ghost Hardware

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A bit staggered how many are supporting our manager coming out and saying “you are a small team” but I guess I’ve never really been into submissive roleplay.

He’s not doing it to help. He’s doing it to absolve himself.
We have only got a handful of quotas so far so there is some jumping to conclusion without having context. But everything that’s been posted thus far is him criticising the mentally at the club not the the club as a whole from what I’ve seen. Considering that’s what nearly every Spurs fan has been doing for years I don’t really see why that is a bad thing.

Has he done a good job here, no, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong in this regard. This issue with the mentality of the players and the board long predates Conte and will continue to exist after he leaves.
 

spursfan77

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I dont think any of the players are very happy playing the style of football we've been playing to be honest. Thats been an issue for a long time as well.

True. But they’d moan about anything. His point is they don’t like the pressure or stress and neither does the club from the top to the bottom.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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So we are mad Conte said the same thing a lot of us have been saying for awhile now? A lot of which is widely agreed with and understood to be the real issue.
A Tottenham fan saying it and Antonio Conte saying it is not the same thing.

Tottenham fans, for better or for worse, love the club and care deeply about being successful and supporting a club they can be proud of. Most spurs fans want Levy out because he’s failed to do the above.

Conte is in full self-preservation mode and wants to protect his reputation. He couldn’t give a fuck what happens to Tottenham as soon as he walks out. He wants the world to know that Tottenham are the problem and not him. Otherwise he would’ve aired these issues in private and not to the world.
 

HodisGawd

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We have only got a handful of quotas so far so there is some jumping to conclusion without having context. But everything that’s been posted thus far is him criticising the mentally at the club not the the club as a whole from what I’ve seen. Considering that’s what nearly every Spurs fan has been doing for years I don’t really see why that is a bad thing.

Has he done a good job here, no, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong in this regard. This issue with the mentality of the players and the board long predates Conte and will continue to exist after he leaves.
It's his job to change the mentality. Thus far, he has failed.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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So we are mad Conte said the same thing a lot of us have been saying for awhile now? A lot of which is widely agreed with and understood to be the real issue.
Not mad at Conte for a lot of the truths he said…but

1. it was totally unprofessional and he’s put himself in an impossible situation now
2. He goes on about this is what Tottenham have done for the last 20 years but he was brought in to bring unity and a winning mentality so we could compete for stuff. He spent a lot of last season saying how much worse we were than other teams, particularly Chelsea and did the same again this year with Milan. Milan aren’t good but he mentally set us up to accept that we shouldn’t really have the right beat Milan. Didn’t see Sheffield Utd saying that before playing us, they tried to win the game despite being a league below.
3. Everyone looks unhappy and I know he has been through some stuff this year but are you telling me that a bunch of international footballers need to look so depressed and play such negative football? If he isn’t able to instill some fight in them then what is he here for?
 

h2005

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Have no idea how you got to that conclusion, everyone and their dead grandmother knows Conte needs money/players to build the team that can play his system optimally, you can’t use that against him now.
As I said he’s Teflon still in some peoples eyes.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Once again the real point gets fogged by petty fuck all complaints that he didn't blame himself. Yes, of course he should go. But moaning about him not blaming himself? Really?To what end? How would that make things better?

He's a dead man walking, we all know it. Blames himself, doesn't blame himself, so fucking what. Move past the irrational hate and take notice of what he said because he's spot on. And it's about fucking time someone said it.
 

PLTuck

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Yeah it’s definitely Conte’s abilities as a manager which are the issue.

Hence why we’ll snidely deem him “elite” in inverted commas.

He’ll go on to win shit elsewhere. Just like Jose did.

Because he’s a winner.

We are a circus act, addicted to losing and run by a fucking clown.

Putting words in my mouth again. I didn't say it was THE issue. But it is undeniably AN issue.

I also think that Levy should go but he isn't going anywhere is he? The ONLY thing that will make him sell up is an empty stadium week after week. Fan chants and protests are water off a ducks back to him.

This whole is it Levy or is it Conte is getting fucking tiresome tbh when its obvious to any sane 7 year old it's both. The manager can and will change. The ONLY people that can change the ownership, is the ownership.
 

TheVoiceofReason

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Brilliant from Conte, he’s totally right. You are deluded if you think things will change under Poch, Gallardo, Enrique. Football might be sexier but we will win nowt without serious structural change on and off the pitch. Levy fucking out.
 

TOLBINY

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Bye bye Antonio

don’t let the door hit you when you leave.
**** of the highest order

has to be relieved of duties tonight if Levy wants to have any credibility left
When it comes to the footballing side of things, the words Levy and credibility should not be used in the same sentence
 

hughy

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Can't fucking stand the bloke. Literally despise him. But he's right with what he's said.

I still want him to fuck off, but I hope his words linger in Lewis' and Levy's ears until they're gone too.
 

spursfan77

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Listen from 4th minute on, he is 100% calling out the players more than he is Levy. And I agree with him!

Spurs media like Ali Gold, Dan Kilpatrick, Charlie Eccleshare, Jack Pitt-Brooke etc. constantly dig out the manager as soon as things go wrong and never once question if the players are good enough.

It's become quite clear, as Conte says, that it doesn't matter one bit who the manager is because the players just aren't good enough! They dont have the ability, the heart, the mindset or the balls to win anything!

Please god this finally sinks in with people and we sent a huge chunk of these players packing, as we wont get anywhere with them.


maybe this is what those team meetings a few weeks ago were about?
 

ronzalo

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A Tottenham fan saying it and Antonio Conte saying it is not the same thing.

Tottenham fans, for better or for worse, love the club and care deeply about being successful and supporting a club they can be proud of. Most spurs fans want Levy out because he’s failed to do the above.

Conte is in full self-preservation mode and wants to protect his reputation. He couldn’t give a fuck what happens to Tottenham as soon as he walks out. He wants the world to know that Tottenham are the problem and not him. Otherwise he would’ve aired these issues in private and not to the world.

How can you think the club isn't the problem at this point? And I don't mean the fact that it's purely that we are Tottenham; that view is just bollocks; of course we (Tottenham) can be successful. I mean the structure within the club, the chairman, the recruitment, and everything that enables the manager to be successful?

Mourinho AND Conte. Both failed here. Successful EVERYWHERE else.
 

Hans Moleman

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What most people me included are saying is that what he’s saying is correct, but he’s ignorant enough not to acknowledge that he had made zero improvement to the club, and it’s not all down to the people he’s blaming.
Then you’re not listening to what he’s saying. He’s saying a manager can only do so much because there is a glass ceiling at the club implemented by those above. It’s like going into a fight with one hand tied behind your back, it doesn’t matter who our manager is. I could understand your perspective that he’s deflecting blame and all that if it was the first time but there’s 20 years of evidence to support his claim. How many managers have we broken?

We’ve had plenty of managers over the last 10-15 years. They’ve all come with different reputations at different points of their careers and inherited different squads. They all left at the same point. Being competitive and around the champions league spots but not able to take the next step. They’ve all since criticised the way the club was run in restricting them to make the next step. Only difference is Conte is doing it whilst he’s still in the job.
 
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