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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

Clockspur

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Richarlison, Davies, sessegnon, bentancur, bissouma, lloris all currently injured. Who are the other players you'd like to see start.
I think he has to play Danjuma now and try and get Royal back in the side, other than that it’s Sophie’s choice
 

Clockspur

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"I just told everyone I think you, the players, are all shit and then I doubled down and insisted that I was talking about all of you specifically and not anybody else but hey let's get ready for the next game"
Would love to see a single player other than Harry Kane stand up to him and say “I don’t think you are being fair with those comments boss”

Conte “ oh really, please elaborate”

player “errr, um Ahhh, we won the Walter Tull trophy in the summer”

Lets not forget, Poch had to dig these lot out back in 2016 after they first wilted against an already relegated Newcastle - these players have form
 

C-oops

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If they're as shit and useless and he claims then get Devine in. Play Sarr, Damjuma. Give the kids a chance to show the desire he wants. Either that or stfu and do your job by coaching and motivating the squad full of internationals and seasoned premier league pros
 

Clockspur

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Such a stupid comparison. A
A man surrounded by some of the best players in world football for years. When suspended hardly missed.

Romero. Surrounded by Eric fucking dier, Lenglet and when suspended replaced by Tanganga and Sanchez.

do you see it yet? Ffs.
Apparently Dier isn’t Shit - it was news to me
 

Mark_147

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I think he has to play Danjuma now and try and get Royal back in the side, other than that it’s Sophie’s choice
We scored 3 goals yesterday and last week too. How would have danjuma prevented any of the goals we conceded.
 

dimiSpur

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Whilst the motive behind Conte's outburst was probably self-preservation, nonetheless, he isn't wrong. The substance of his outburst is true. I don't care who the manager is, what formation he's playing, those two goals we conceded were not down to anything other than unprofessional, haphazard bullshit attitudes and defending. The absolute football basics.

The players have shown, quite recently against the likes of Chelsea and City, that they are capable of good performances. When they're up for it.

Is the whole matter of who will be in charge next season having an effect? Perhaps. But no matter what, these players represent Spurs and are paid by Spurs. Not Conte.

So that's why his outburst is correct. He of course has his own share of blame, this outburst should have come earlier if he wanted us to believe he's said all these things for the good of the club and not his own reputation. But that doesn't mean it's all false.

The players, with a few minor exceptions, don't give a shit.
 

Thenewcat

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Genuinely staggered by how many people are so blinded by their hatred of levy and the way the club is run that the way will not countenance that Conte could be in the wrong at all.

I don’t have a problem with the rant against levy. The relationship is clearly on the skids and some of it needed saying. But throwing the players under the bus whilst taking zero accountability for his own performance was completely unacceptable and also flagrantly unprofessional (he obviously wants to be sacked). The fact he’s had a shit year doesn’t excuse the frankly piss poor coaching job he’s done this season, and blaming everyone else whilst pocketing your cash makes you look, date I say it completely selfish. What he’s done hasn’t helped the club because it gives levy an easy excuse to sack him.
 

mil1lion

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We’ve won more trophies than all 4 of those clubs and have richer histories than all bar Everton and Villa who we are more or less on par with.

Forest and Leeds are basically old timey versions of Leicester - purple patches that saw them punch well above their weight having not achieved anything before or since.

United and Liverpool are the heavyweights and then historically it’s Arsenal. These days City and Chelsea have joined that gang.

After that though ourselves, Everton, Villa are the next biggest clubs in the land.
Yep and only 1 of those teams has played Champions League football and has a state of the art stadium. We've pulled ahead of them for years. It's just frustrating for fans that we never win anything like those 2. There's nothing more frustrating than being the team that's always close but always falls short. We're just in a situation now where we've spent so long being a nearly team its boiled over. Arsenal really pulled ahead in the late 90s and moved to our turf. That's also getting under our skin. Especially as we finally got above them in the table yet won nothing and now they're finishing above us but might also win the title. They also won the FA Cup during our time above them and they've jumped way ahead us on the FA Cup win count.

ENIC have taken us forward after the Sugar era. However we had really fallen behind in the 90s. I would rather compare what we've done under ENIC compared to the 80 and earlier. This is the big challenge for Conte because its more than 20 years. Try 32 years since our last FA Cup win. How do you change the culture of the club. When did Arsenal become serial winners in the late 90s. This is what we need to do now. I was really hoping Conte would be the one to change that but it doesn't appear he will be here long enough. It's feeling more like Ancelotti at Everton and a lost cause.
 

Thenewcat

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Whilst the motive behind Conte's outburst was probably self-preservation, nonetheless, he isn't wrong. The substance of his outburst is true. I don't care who the manager is, what formation he's playing, those two goals we conceded were not down to anything other than unprofessional, haphazard bullshit attitudes and defending. The absolute football basics.

The players have shown, quite recently against the likes of Chelsea and City, that they are capable of good performances. When they're up for it.

Is the whole matter of who will be in charge next season having an effect? Perhaps. But no matter what, these players represent Spurs and are paid by Spurs. Not Conte.

So that's why his outburst is correct. He of course has his own share of blame, this outburst should have come earlier if he wanted us to believe he's said all these things for the good of the club and not his own reputation. But that doesn't mean it's all false.

The players, with a few minor exceptions, don't give a shit.
I don’t mind some criticism of the players and I don’t mind criticism of levy at all. I do mind the fact that he has taken absolutely zero accountability for his own job performance. If you think this is a well coached team I don’t know what to tell you
 

dimiSpur

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I don’t mind some criticism of the players and I don’t mind criticism of levy at all. I do mind the fact that he has taken absolutely zero accountability for his own job performance. If you think this is a well coached team I don’t know what to tell you
Where did I say that? Are you for real? I literally said he has his own share of the blame. Fucking hell mate, we're annoying enough as it is, don't wind me up even more.
 

fecka

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Can’t wait to watch the players perform even worse in two weeks time.
The man has come out with some home truths, but does anyone seriously believe it'll help anyone the way they were delivered?

Yes, we need a complete overhaul (Kane & Son included), but his toxic ass should also be moved far away from the club. Until you have what you want you do the best with what you've got, something he's either unable or refusing to do out of spite.

What is there even to support now? The board is clueless, the players spineless, and the manager a self-preserving, arrogant twat.
 

shoggy33

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The cameras were on Conte as he received the news of the Davies injury and his reaction said it all, we were fucked.

Davies is a solid professional.
I've never understood why Davies gets lumped in with the rest of them. He's by far our least error prone defender and that includes Romero, and comfortably our best LB, although that is admittedly a pretty low bar. He and Kane are the only 'senior' players I would keep if it were up to me. Lloris, Dier, Sanchez, Perisic, PEH, Lucas and sadly Son should all be moved on.
 
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ChaoticBeaver

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Bigoted: unreasonably prejudiced and intolerant. OED.
He references "the players".
The definition justifies the description.
His words justify the description.
Blaming a group of people, most of whom he has had no contact with, and doesn't even know, over a period of twenty years, for something that happened within the previous few hours, is the epitome of a bigoted comment.
If you can't accept that, it is your problem. Nothing further from me on Conte's bigoted rant.
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Ribble

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No. A lot of the players stayed at Juve to get them back. Also, especially in that period, the league was dog shit and no team really had a penny to spend due to their bubble bursting financially. Juve still had more financial backing than most, not saying they were making mega deals but they didn't need to to get ahead

The big senior players who stayed were almost all gone by the time Conte arrived, and the only starter left was Buffon. The team in the 2 seasons before had been garbage, and under Delneri especially they were just absolutely uninspired and had no fight in them at all - indeed they looked like we do right now. Conte comes in, brings in a few key first team players like Vidal and Lichtsteiner (Pirlo too of course, although he wasn't part of the original plan) and then makes them absolute mentality monsters who went from 7th the season before to equalling Wenger's unbeaten record at L'Arse. They were utterly relentless and they needed to be too, because none of their strikers were any good at scoring lol.
 

Clockspur

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We scored 3 goals yesterday and last week too. How would have danjuma prevented any of the goals we conceded.
By coming on late with fresh legs whe we are ahead and running into the corner and holding the ball up ? By being an outlet for the defence? By giving them something to think about? By pressing from the front?

do you watch football?
 

jpascavitz

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Whilst the motive behind Conte's outburst was probably self-preservation, nonetheless, he isn't wrong. The substance of his outburst is true. I don't care who the manager is, what formation he's playing, those two goals we conceded were not down to anything other than unprofessional, haphazard bullshit attitudes and defending. The absolute football basics.

The players have shown, quite recently against the likes of Chelsea and City, that they are capable of good performances. When they're up for it.

Is the whole matter of who will be in charge next season having an effect? Perhaps. But no matter what, these players represent Spurs and are paid by Spurs. Not Conte.

So that's why his outburst is correct. He of course has his own share of blame, this outburst should have come earlier if he wanted us to believe he's said all these things for the good of the club and not his own reputation. But that doesn't mean it's all false.

The players, with a few minor exceptions, don't give a shit.
I agree with this so much and came on to same something similar. I don't think Conte thinks there's one or two "selfish" players that he can drop

I think he is referring to this pattern. How can a side go out and beat the best sides in the league and go on 2-3 match mini winning streaks, then go out and concede twice within 5 minutes of scoring themselves and give up an equalizer in stoppage time?

I thought Milan was shit in both matches they played us but you could at least tell they gave it absolutely everything to ensure we would not score a goal, and I don't think our XI would do the same.
 
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