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Trent Crimm

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I wouldn't say what i'm about to suggest is evidence of any 'DNA' but he absolutely gets the history at Spurs. When he brought Dortmund over for a CL tie he was full of praise and respect for the club, it's traditions and history so he's well aware. Now that doesn't mean he'd be a good choice, it actually doesn't mean that much in real terms, but it was nice to hear his appreciation of the club.

Would he be the right choice? To be honest, I don't think there's such a thing given how this club rolls. So meh, whoever.

The whole shebang exhausts me.
 

spurs9

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That's an unfair analysis for Gallardo. Specially if you don't have context.
You can't win Libertadores and local league. Rosters in South America are not as big as in Europe . You have the first team, and probably a good bench (in the case of the top teams). But you don't have enough players to go 100% in every competition. I can't recall the last team that won Libertadores and local league. Not in Brazil or Argentina.
Gallardo started in 2014 and won the first international cup he played. Copa Sudamericana (equivalent of UEFA Cup). Following year he won the Copa Libertadores at the first try.
Before his tenure River Plate had only 2 cups. This has always been his focus. Local league has always been a mix of first team and reserves. (River has the most leagues in Argentina, they want more cups)
His record in the CL is
2015 - Winner
2016 - Round of 16
2017 - Semifinals
2018 - Winner
2019 - Semifinals
2020 - Semifinals
2021 - Quarter Finals
2022 - Round of 16

Gallardo's impact in River has been similar to Klopp in Liverpool
Agree completely, however just wanted to point out that they actually made the final in 2019, narrowly losing to Flamengo 2-1 in injury time.

Also worth mentioning that River have a policy of selling their best players and replacing with cheaper players or academy players, so his teams have constantly been dismantled.

The two Copa Libertadores wins were 3 years apart yet only 2 players played in both wins (1 started both games and the other started 1 and came on as sub in the other). Either Gallardo was lucky that all the new players had a winning mentality or he instilled it in them himself.
 

spurs9

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I wouldn't say what i'm about to suggest is evidence of any 'DNA' but he absolutely gets the history at Spurs. When he brought Dortmund over for a CL tie he was full of praise and respect for the club, it's traditions and history so he's well aware. Now that doesn't mean he'd be a good choice, it actually doesn't mean that much in real terms, but it was nice to hear his appreciation of the club.

Would he be the right choice? To be honest, I don't think there's such a thing given how this club rolls. So meh, whoever.
He "absolutely gets the history at Spurs" does he? He didn't even know we were from London.

Here is the quote from the Dortmund game.
"I just have something to say because as a little kid in my garden when I played I was always a team from the Bundesliga, of course, but there was one game I played with my friends when I was Tottenham Hotspur because I liked the name so much.

"I had not a picture, I did not even know that they play in London and so on. For me to play them in two legs was very special and when what I didn't know as a kid, what I felt today and yesterday, so many friendly people here in around the club.

"The coaching staff, first of all, from the opponent, team and all staff around down in the stadium in front of the dressing rooms at the benches and so on was unbelievable. Such great support, such a good atmosphere and so many friendly people made us feel very, very welcome."
 

fishhhandaricecake

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He "absolutely gets the history" does he? He didn't even know we were from London.

Here is the quote from the Dortmund game.
"I just have something to say because as a little kid in my garden when I played I was always a team from the Bundesliga, of course, but there was one game I played with my friends when I was Tottenham Hotspur because I liked the name so much.

"I had not a picture, I did not even know that they play in London and so on. For me to play them in two legs was very special and when what I didn't know as a kid, what I felt today and yesterday, so many friendly people here in around the club.

"The coaching staff, first of all, from the opponent, team and all staff around down in the stadium in front of the dressing rooms at the benches and so on was unbelievable. Such great support, such a good atmosphere and so many friendly people made us feel very, very welcome."
Ah so not a tottenham fan then 😂😅

That’s it Tuchel off the list ❌
 

noggen

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He "absolutely gets the history at Spurs" does he? He didn't even know we were from London.
Well that's it then, lol. Young kid from Germany didn't know where the "almighty" Tottenham Hotspur were from. England - the holy grail of football. What a disgrace!

Anyway I think there's a lot of grown up men from England who doesn't know Man Utd are from Salford either.
 

rossdapep

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That's an unfair analysis for Gallardo. Specially if you don't have context.
You can't win Libertadores and local league. Rosters in South America are not as big as in Europe . You have the first team, and probably a good bench (in the case of the top teams). But you don't have enough players to go 100% in every competition. I can't recall the last team that won Libertadores and local league. Not in Brazil or Argentina.
Gallardo started in 2014 and won the first international cup he played. Copa Sudamericana (equivalent of UEFA Cup). Following year he won the Copa Libertadores at the first try.
Before his tenure River Plate had only 2 cups. This has always been his focus. Local league has always been a mix of first team and reserves. (River has the most leagues in Argentina, they want more cups)
His record in the CL is
2015 - Winner
2016 - Round of 16
2017 - Semifinals
2018 - Winner
2019 - Semifinals
2020 - Semifinals
2021 - Quarter Finals
2022 - Round of 16

Gallardo's impact in River has been similar to Klopp in Liverpool
Flamengo won both Brasilerão Campeonato and Libertadores underJorge Jesus in 2019.

But yeah, even for clubs like Palmeiras and Flamengo who have a lot of resources its real tough to win both as the travelling and turn around time between games can be a nightmare.

Could be in South Argentina in Thursday and Fortaleza (North Brazil) on Sunday evening.

Its far rougher than Europe.

Add in the elements you stated and it's not wise to downplay Gallardo's achievements.

He's an incredibly talented and succesful coach
 

jolsnogross

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Conte out and a new manager in is probably the easiest task ahead of us this summer.

If we're bold, we'll consider taking on a manager that is interested or has a plan to sell and replace some crown jewel players, like Son and Kane, as well as offloading the dross that's been hanging around too long. Son's form this season is starting to look like Dele Alli levels of drop off. While Kane is our best player by miles but his contract situation is destabilising. If he wont sign, it might be ok to sell him off as long as the new manager has a bold vision for the new version of Spurs.
 

CrazyKen

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Not sure how much difference a new manager will make. We might get a lift short term, and we’ll be back in this situation again in 12-18 months. Round and round in circles…
 

stormfly

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Buzzing for next season when the new coach gives everyone a clean slate.

Lloris
Perro Romero Dier Reggi
Holjberg
Winks N’Dombele Le Celso
Son Kane

what a team! Silverware is on its way!
 

MR_BEN

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Not sure how much difference a new manager will make. We might get a lift short term, and we’ll be back in this situation again in 12-18 months. Round and round in circles…

So we should do nothing?

It’s not like we have a choice anyway - he’s hardly going to stay is he?
 
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