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Yiddosmithy

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VDV's fitness/injury problems would be a problem (in the EPL). We need the leaders to stay on the pitch for the full 90.
Puyol - Is he still any good? Doesn't he have major injury problems now?
Pirlo is apparently about to sign/has signed a new contract. Also, I've heard he has declined (physically) this year and probably couldn't handle the speed of the EPL and I'm one of the people who think with his brain and tekkers that he would have been able to in the past.

Yh i agree that we need leaders on the pitch for the full 90 but we still need more around the squad, I think Puyol would be a good squad player not a starter but doubt he would accept that. I think VDV could cope if he was more of an impact sub. I think that Eriksen could be world class but he's just missing that something (cant describe what) which VDV has a lot off and if VDV could bring this out in Eriksen it would be worth bringin him back just for that. Not sure if that last bit makes sense

I wasnt just suggesting these players but someone of similar stature.
 

spurs9

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Yh i agree that we need leaders on the pitch for the full 90 but we still need more around the squad, I think Puyol would be a good squad player not a starter but doubt he would accept that. I think VDV could cope if he was more of an impact sub. I think that Eriksen could be world class but he's just missing that something (cant describe what) which VDV has a lot off and if VDV could bring this out in Eriksen it would be worth bringin him back just for that. Not sure if that last bit makes sense
The last bit completely makes sense. I also think that are younger players are missing a mentor which VDV would add but he left as he was told he would have to fight for his place, so I dont think he would come back to be an impact sub.

I think a DC with those leadership/arrogance/winner qualities is an absolute must and could be a guaranteed started (if Kaboul continues to have problems). An attacking Mid with those qualities would be nice too but I just don't think it should be at the expense of Lamela or Eriksen.

I think Ricaro Rodriguez should be 1st choice for LB, fantastic young player who appears to have that arrogance/winning mentality already.
 

DaSpurs

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----------Lloris-----------
Walk--Caulk--Vlad--Rose
-----Sandro--Kovacic-----
Towns--Eriksen--Kono
-----------Ade-----------

This side is a balance of attacking flair that's vastly needed, if to hold on to the ball if nothing else, and some grit at the back. This side loses to no one in our league by three goals.

Townsend and Lamela is up in the air, IMO depends who wants it more in the summer. This squad lists the only first team additions I'd hope to make. We've no choice but to address CB as looks likely, and I'd simply be quite surprised to see the club finally address the LB situation at that point given our currents are another year aged and homegrowns. I wish they'd have addressed it this past summer, but they missed the opportunity and only made it worse.

For me, absolute top priorities are in midfield. We desperately need someone who can quickly shift the field of play and move the ball daftly from the back line to the attacking third. In our plethora of central midfielders, we don't really have anyone capable of doing this at the level we want to reach. Kovacic at Inter is exactly the kind of player I think we need, and he's gotten all of eight games this year for them with the current coach who doesn't appear to be going anywhere now that they seem to have turned shit around. With their January acquisition of Hernanes, his prospects for playing time look even bleaker. Really hope we go after him. Arguably even more so, we very much need a capable, pacy, creative, unpredictable, two-footed (but strongest on right), and yet defensively helpful left winger. Konoplyanka fits this bill perfectly.

Ade is a question given his spike in wages we're set to incur. I think we all appreciate what he's done for us since his return to the fold, but I have to admit since finding that his contract shifts entirely to us next year, my doubts have nothing but increased. Will be intriguing to see what happens at the position this summer. If he's moved on, I'd still like to see us move for Remy, and certainly wouldn't be disappointed if we go after Benteke if the price is more suitable than last summer.
 

not_tenth-again

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Deciding with my head... not necessarily with my heart. Im going to pretent we show some nuts and don't allow Vertonghen and Lloris to leave.

In
Ben Davies
Edin Dzeko/Javier Hernandez
Steven Caulker
back up keeper - no idea who TBH...

Out
Naughton
Lennon
Sigurdsson
Capoue
Chadli
Friedel
Gomes
Livermore
Assou-Ekotto
Rose/Fryers
Adebayor/Soldado

In from loan
Falque
Pritchard
Holtby

Im sure I've forgotten someone or other but that's my 2c worth
 

DaSpurs

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Deciding with my head... not necessarily with my heart. Im going to pretent we show some nuts and don't allow Vertonghen and Lloris to leave.

In
Ben Davies
Edin Dzeko/Javier Hernandez
Steven Caulker
back up keeper - no idea who TBH...

Out
Naughton
Lennon
Sigurdsson
Capoue
Chadli
Friedel
Gomes
Livermore
Assou-Ekotto
Rose/Fryers
Adebayor/Soldado

In from loan
Falque
Pritchard
Holtby

Im sure I've forgotten someone or other but that's my 2c worth

We've gotta address the winger and CM situations. Absolutely got to.

I think it's pretty reasonable to believe Dzeko will be leading the line for Dortmund next season. Hernandez, I've absolutely no clue what will become of him. I think he'll likely end up somewhere in La Liga or Serie A though.
 

Yiddosmithy

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The last bit completely makes sense. I also think that are younger players are missing a mentor which VDV would add but he left as he was told he would have to fight for his place, so I dont think he would come back to be an impact sub.

I think a DC with those leadership/arrogance/winner qualities is an absolute must and could be a guaranteed started (if Kaboul continues to have problems). An attacking Mid with those qualities would be nice too but I just don't think it should be at the expense of Lamela or Eriksen.

I think Ricaro Rodriguez should be 1st choice for LB, fantastic young player who appears to have that arrogance/winning mentality already.

I do agree it would need to be right for him and us if her was to come back. Lot more in hope then expectation tbh.

A Gareth Barry (Out of contract in summer? but probably stay at Everton i think would do a great job for us.

Yes i completely agree about Ricardo Rodriguez and would make him my number one transfer target but not sure if its possible anymore and i'm not too sure of many other left backs that would suit us.

I think we need to make a decision to get rid of either Lennon or Townsend (I'd rather Townsend stay as believe he can become a good player if coached well) and bring in a much more productive winger ideally left hand side Konoplyanka would be my first choice there but maybe Gaitan (benfica)

Midfield were overstocked all with players with similar skill sets who in reality haven't done anything more than Jake Livermore this season (I never thought i would say that, dont think he is a long term solution but definately can be for next?. and would happily get rid of capoue and use Livermore as back up to Sandro. On the provision that sandro stays fit. I also think we should be getting rid of either Paulinho or Dembele if we can get a ball playing upgrade on them such as Kovacic or not too sure who else. If we cant find upgrade then happy to keep both but need a lot more football ability in the centre.

At CB i dont think we are that bad, if Vertonghen wants to go then im not too bothered but would love him to stay and be motivated again, but if he isnt going to get that back then he needs to go asap. I seriously don't think Chriches has been behind Jan atall on performances just this season and don't think they are compatible together, and if we sold him we should buy a dominant cb to partner Vlad and have a setled back 4.

Squad next season:

Lloris/Begovic (Hopefully lloris)
Friedel
Archer

Walker
Naughton/Fredericks
Vertonghen/new cb
Chiriches
Dawson (4th choice)
New CB
Rodriguez
Rose/Fryers

Sandro
Livermore
Barry
Paulinho
Kovacic
Bentaleb
Carroll

Eriksen
Holtby

Lamela
Townsend
Konoplyanka
Chadli

Adebayor
Soldado
Kane
 

DaSpurs

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I do agree it would need to be right for him and us if her was to come back. Lot more in hope then expectation tbh.

A Gareth Barry (Out of contract in summer? but probably stay at Everton i think would do a great job for us.

Yes i completely agree about Ricardo Rodriguez and would make him my number one transfer target but not sure if its possible anymore and i'm not too sure of many other left backs that would suit us.

I think we need to make a decision to get rid of either Lennon or Townsend (I'd rather Townsend stay as believe he can become a good player if coached well) and bring in a much more productive winger ideally left hand side Konoplyanka would be my first choice there but maybe Gaitan (benfica)

Midfield were overstocked all with players with similar skill sets who in reality haven't done anything more than Jake Livermore this season (I never thought i would say that, dont think he is a long term solution but definately can be for next?. and would happily get rid of capoue and use Livermore as back up to Sandro. On the provision that sandro stays fit. I also think we should be getting rid of either Paulinho or Dembele if we can get a ball playing upgrade on them such as Kovacic or not too sure who else. If we cant find upgrade then happy to keep both but need a lot more football ability in the centre.

At CB i dont think we are that bad, if Vertonghen wants to go then im not too bothered but would love him to stay and be motivated again, but if he isnt going to get that back then he needs to go asap. I seriously don't think Chriches has been behind Jan atall on performances just this season and don't think they are compatible together, and if we sold him we should buy a dominant cb to partner Vlad and have a setled back 4.

Squad next season:

Lloris/Begovic (Hopefully lloris)
Friedel
Archer

Walker
Naughton/Fredericks
Vertonghen/new cb
Chiriches
Dawson (4th choice)
New CB
Rodriguez
Rose/Fryers

Sandro
Livermore
Barry
Paulinho
Kovacic
Bentaleb
Carroll

Eriksen
Holtby

Lamela
Townsend
Konoplyanka
Chadli

Adebayor
Soldado
Kane

Absolutely agreed. Only thing I'd change is relieving Paulinho if a good offer came in, which I think it probably would after what I'm sure will be solid performances in Brazil. Funds from that sale could go pretty far in addressing our immediate needs.
 

Yiddosmithy

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Absolutely agreed. Only thing I'd change is relieving Paulinho if a good offer came in, which I think it probably would after what I'm sure will be solid performances in Brazil. Funds from that sale could go pretty far in addressing our immediate needs.

Yh would be more then happy him leaving don't think hes a bad player but something hasn't clicked here and don't see it clicking tbh, but he's also the kind of player that I've got the feeling that could go onto be a brilliant midfielder in another league.

I can't see us spending much money net, so i expect we will need to sell a couple of others to address our immediate needs. (Sigurdsson, Paulinho, Dembele, Lennon) Rose has seemed to have an attitude when he isn't first choice and i don't really rate him so happy for him to leave if the manager thinks Fryers is good enough for back up. I would also happily sell Soldado back to La Liga if we got basically our money back and then spent it on a younger striker, but not bothered either way about Soldado (Think he's very good player if team suits him and we do not, not sure how much that will change by next season.)
 

DaSpurs

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Yh would be more then happy him leaving don't think hes a bad player but something hasn't clicked here and don't see it clicking tbh, but he's also the kind of player that I've got the feeling that could go onto be a brilliant midfielder in another league.

I can't see us spending much money net, so i expect we will need to sell a couple of others to address our immediate needs. (Sigurdsson, Paulinho, Dembele, Lennon) Rose has seemed to have an attitude when he isn't first choice and i don't really rate him so happy for him to leave if the manager thinks Fryers is good enough for back up. I would also happily sell Soldado back to La Liga if we got basically our money back and then spent it on a younger striker, but not bothered either way about Soldado (Think he's very good player if team suits him and we do not, not sure how much that will change by next season.)

Unfortunately can't see us making that money back for Soldado. Not pullin up the trees and he'll be 29 at the start of the season. Believe he'll likely be at Spurs for awhile, for better or worse. But I would be very happy if we moved on Siggy, Paulinho, Dembele, and Lennon. Problem is the homegrown situation, especially given that Naughton seems to understandably prefer a move on and Rose isn't cutting it. Selling Paulinho, Dembele, and possibly Holtby (don't wish it) or Chadli would certainly help offset that issue though.
 

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I think getting vdv back would be immense. I couldnt care less if he can only play 70mins, because the guy drags the team around single handedly and wins games on his own.

He's the guy you build a team around. Sandro, Paulinho, Dembele etc can do the donkey work, while rafa concentrates on driving the attacks

sandro paulinho
lamela vdv eriksen
ade
fuck yeah
 

Yiddosmithy

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Unfortunately can't see us making that money back for Soldado. Not pullin up the trees and he'll be 29 at the start of the season. Believe he'll likely be at Spurs for awhile, for better or worse. But I would be very happy if we moved on Siggy, Paulinho, Dembele, and Lennon. Problem is the homegrown situation, especially given that Naughton seems to understandably prefer a move on and Rose isn't cutting it. Selling Paulinho, Dembele, and possibly Holtby (don't wish it) or Chadli would certainly help offset that issue though.

Yh i think its very unlikely we could get close to our money back but perhaps worth touting him round in Spain and then get a better suited striker for us. But think very very unlikely.

The homegrown rule is starting to be a bit of a problem because a lot of the players we think need upgrading are homegrown. I think Chambers or Clyne from Southampton could maybe do a good backup job for us and count as a HG player. Lallana would be a dream if possible, maybe Tom Ince on a free? He seems to be a bit more productive then Lennon or Townsend ever have. Do you know if Bentaleb qualifies for HG status or did he join our youth teams too late
 

DaSpurs

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Yh i think its very unlikely we could get close to our money back but perhaps worth touting him round in Spain and then get a better suited striker for us. But think very very unlikely.

The homegrown rule is starting to be a bit of a problem because a lot of the players we think need upgrading are homegrown. I think Chambers or Clyne from Southampton could maybe do a good backup job for us and count as a HG player. Lallana would be a dream if possible, maybe Tom Ince on a free? He seems to be a bit more productive then Lennon or Townsend ever have. Do you know if Bentaleb qualifies for HG status or did he join our youth teams too late

Bentaleb's under 21 so doesn't have to be registered regardless, but he will qualify as a HG once he comes of age. In fact, he will have qualified as of January of next season.

Lallana would be incredible, just don't see it happening unfortunately. He's loyal and Southampton will fight to the bloody end to keep him, I'm sure. Ince is a solid player, but he's a leftie and we really need an incisive right-footed player ideally to play on the left. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any other HG options that would fit that bill, hence why I think we should go all out for Konoplyanka in the summer.
 

Yiddosmithy

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Bentaleb's under 21 so doesn't have to be registered regardless, but he will qualify as a HG once he comes of age. In fact, he will have qualified as of January of next season.

Lallana would be incredible, just don't see it happening unfortunately. He's loyal and Southampton will fight to the bloody end to keep him, I'm sure. Ince is a solid player, but he's a leftie and we really need an incisive right-footed player ideally to play on the left. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any other HG options that would fit that bill, hence why I think we should go all out for Konoplyanka in the summer.

Yes would love Konoplyanka, am sure we will be interested too just depends if we can beat Liverpool to his signature, which looks unlikely in my eyes because Liverpool will offer him more money and champions league, only advantage we have is being based in London and don't think that will be enough to persuade him. If we can't get him then i'm not sure what other options we would have. Maybe SADIO MANÉ from red bull salzberg, pretty sure hes a right footer playing on the left. I haven't seen much of him other than highlights etc but he has a very impressive record there Played 45 Scored 25. Despite it being a poorer league that's a great record of from the wings and potentially worth the risk.

If we got Konoplyanka, Ricardo Rodriquez, Kovacic and a new CB, then i think we would have a seriously top quality squad providing we didn't lose anyone too key. Only concern would be Kovacic might be a slow starter in the league but think he could become key for us if we signed him.
 

Grey Fox

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Really depends on who is in charge next season, but if Hugo goes (don't think he will) we have already sounded out Marshall (cardiff).
I have always rated Neil Taylor (LB Swansea) he was fantastic before his injury last season and I think he is better than Davies. Although I am probably one of the few on here that rates most of our summer signings, our midfield needs sorting out, there are too many similar players. So I would sell Chadli, Siggy and probably Dembele.

OUTS

Friedel
Rose
Dawson (Love the guy, but simply not good enough)
Chadli
Siggy
Dembele
Lennon

INS

Marshall
Taylor
Strootman
Lallana
?
 

teok

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Left back, centre back, striker. That is just before who ever leaves leaves.
 

Knarf44

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Strootman has just done his left ACL so probably won't be fit for the start of next season.
 

Flightrisker

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"Your realistic squad for next season"

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spurs9

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Really depends on who is in charge next season, but if Hugo goes (don't think he will) we have already sounded out Marshall (cardiff).
I have always rated Neil Taylor (LB Swansea) he was fantastic before his injury last season and I think he is better than Davies. Although I am probably one of the few on here that rates most of our summer signings, our midfield needs sorting out, there are too many similar players. So I would sell Chadli, Siggy and probably Dembele.

OUTS

Friedel
Rose
Dawson (Love the guy, but simply not good enough)
Chadli
Siggy
Dembele
Lennon

INS

Marshall
Taylor
Strootman
Lallana
?
Why sell Chadli? I think he can become a quality player. Agree with Siggy & Dembele (to an extent). I wouldn't get rid of Dawson. He is a perfect 4th choice CB. Passionate loves the club always gives 100%, just dont want him in the first team too often.
 

michaelden

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GK
Lloris (F)
Archer (U21)
Vigouroux (U21)

DEF
Walker (HG)
Kaboul (F)
Vert (F)
Chiriches (F)
Fryers (HG)
Lascelles (u21)
Veljkovic (u21)
Stewart (u21)
Naughton (HG)
De Sciglio (F)
Chiellini (F)


MID-Central
Sandro (F)
Paulinho (F)
Capoue (F)
Holtby (F)
Dembele (F)
Bentaleb (U21)
Carroll (HG)

MID-Wide
Chadli (F)
Lamela (F)
Eriksen (F)
Siggy (HG)
Falque (F)

FWDs
Ade (F)
Soldado (F)
Kane (U21)
Ceballos (F)
Couliaby (U21)
Coulthirst (u21)
Balotelli (F)

Only those in bold are buys, the rest are Spurs youth


Are my (F)oreign, home grown (HG) & U21 correct?

**updated after response**


If all are correct I have 19 Fs so have to shoot 2, I mean sell. So I'd sell Dembele & Ade, but only if we get all by F buys in.
 
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